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21 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

 

I thought my article laid it out pretty well, although they left out a few things. But if you disagree how about you tell me what you think he has done right so far!

His infrastructure bill is considered a success and is supported in polls by the majority of Americans.  Naturally, fiscal conservatives who have shown no concern for reduction of revenue through tax cuts and their effect on the deficit are concerned about the cost and the effect on the deficit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/opinion/biden-infrastructure-stimulus-bill.html

The economy is still going well, although growth has been slowed by the Summer covid surge and the current surge elsewhere and the supply chain issues.  As I mentioned in another post people's perception is the economy isn't doing well because of inflation and the rapid growth of the economy has hit a wall of sorts.  But so say he's "mucked up" the economy can't really hold up to stats.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/09/opinion/economy-inflation-supply-chain.html

He's had many challenges that have failed to be resolved like the surge at the border, the Afghanistan disaster, the supply chain back up, inflation.  

Obviously for a conservative as yourself what I would view as a success, you wouldn't.  Just like you might have viewed the tax cuts as a success and I didn't.  So I can see how you might say he's done absolutely nothing.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

Still trying to blame Trump eh? Nice try but no dice! Biden has mucked just about everything including the economy. 


https://townhall.com/columnists/tommyhicks/2021/11/19/soaring-prices-are-the-result-of-bidens-failed-agenda-n2599377

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/11/01/biden-and-the-democrats-have-failed-america-n1528549

Yeah, Trump is responsible for his failed policies and inability to lead the country through a global pandemic.  It's estimated that the economic loss to the US economy from Covid was $16 Trillion in 2020. That's on Trump's tab. That's an inconvenient truth, isn't it? When does Trump get held accountable for what he mucked up?

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26 minutes ago, Tweety said:

His infrastructure bill is considered a success and is supported in polls by the majority of Americans.  Naturally fiscal conservatives who have shown no concern for reduction of revenue through tax cuts and their effect on the deficit are concerned about the cost and the effect on the deficit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/opinion/biden-infrastructure-stimulus-bill.html

The economy is still going well, although growth has been slowed by the Summer covid surge and the current surge elsewhere and the supply chain issues.  As I mentioned in another post people's perception is the economy isn't doing well because of inflation and the rapid growth of the economy has hit a wall of sorts.  But so say he's "mucked up" the economy can't really hold up to stats.

He's had many challenges that have failed to be resolved like the surge at the border, the Afghanistan disaster, the supply chain back up, inflation.  

Obviously for a conservative as yourself what I would view as a success, you wouldn't.  Just like you might have viewed the tax cuts as a success and I didn't.  So I can see how you might say he's done absolutely nothing.  

 

 

The Infrastructure and other trillion dollar bills (which total approx 6 trillion)  include a large amount of pork and even though they state it will cost zero dollars we all know that sooner or later we all pay the price. I do agree that maybe some stimulus is needed but they are going way overboard IMO. I don’t think that this much spending is necessary or good for the US/economy.  The polices that you state have “failed to be resolved” were of course Bidens to begin with, he is the one who made the decisions about Afghanistan, the opening of the southern border which was under control during Trump admin, and decisions that have directly impacted the economy/inflation. 
 


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/05/07/joe_biden_economy_killer_145718.html#!
 

https://prescottenews.com/index.php/2021/11/20/opinion-biden-stimulus-failures-could-produce-1920s-style-republican-victories/

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10 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yeah, Trump is responsible for his failed policies and inability to lead the country through a global pandemic.  It's estimated that the economic loss to the US economy from Covid was $16 Trillion in 2020. That's on Trump's tab. That's an inconvenient truth, isn't it? When does Trump get held accountable for what he mucked up?

You are obsessed with Trump, get over it. He is not in charge. There was already a stimulus under his admin and now Biden is doing 6 trillion more. Biden is making the decisions now, good or bad, it’s all on him at this point!

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16 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

The Infrastructure and other trillion dollar bills (which total approx 6 trillion)  include a large amount of pork and even though they state it will cost zero dollars we all know that sooner than later we all pay the price. I do agree that maybe some stimulus is needed but they are going way overboard IMO. I don’t think that this much spending is necessary or good for the US/economy. 
 


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/05/07/joe_biden_economy_killer_145718.html#!
 

https://prescottenews.com/index.php/2021/11/20/opinion-biden-stimulus-failures-could-produce-1920s-style-republican-victories/

I don't think the economy needs stimulus as much as it needs infrastructure program.  I have heard the objections to the pork and get that.  Trump wanted a trillion dollar infrastructure program but didn't get it through.  I'm not obsessed with Trump but even he saw the need for a huge package.

Again, I'm not obsessed with Trump, but you mentioned Biden's 6 trillion in spending and in 2020 during Trump's year outlay was 6 trillion.  It was 4 trillion the year before.  Obviously covid packages had an effect on spending, but the 6 trillion shouldn't be shocking.  But yes, Biden is about bigger government, most democrats are and you certainly can disagree with that.

We know from the Obama years, "stimulus package" is a dirty word to Republicans so calling the infrastructure package a "stimulus program" is no mistake in conservative reporting.

For what it's worth, I'm not reading an article called "Joe Biden Economy Killer" from that right wing site.  No apologies.  I know from reading that site in the past it's rhetoric same as Altnet and Daily Koz.  Don't read them.

I do agree with the article that if the economy is deemed to be a bad one there will be Republican victories.

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2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I don't think the economy needs stimulus as much as it needs infrastructure program.  I have heard the objections to the pork and get that.  Trump wanted a trillion dollar infrastructure program but didn't get it through.  

For what it's worth, I'm not reading an article called "Joe Biden Economy Killer" from that right wing sight.  I know from reading that site in the past it's rhetoric same as Altnet and Daily Koz.  Don't read them.

I do agree with the article that if the economy is deemed to be a bad one there will be Republican victories.

LOL, I get you don’t want to read something from a right wing site but sometimes they do have good info, just like left wing sites do even if you are a conservative . I read both and don’t agree with one side all the time as a general rule, take a little here and there. I didn’t agree with everything (pork) in Trumps bill either. I hate when politicians do that. They waste too much money IMO. Not sure what you mean by conservative victories (votes maybe?) but a bad economy is not good for anyone. 

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3 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

LOL, I get you don’t want to read something from a right wing site but sometimes they do have good info, just like left wing sites do even if you are a conservative . I read both and don’t agree with one side all the time as a general rule, take a little here and there. I didn’t agree with everything (pork) in Trumps bill either. I hate when politicians do that. They waste too much money IMO. Not sure what you mean by conservative victories (votes maybe?) but a bad economy is not good for anyone. 

I just can't stomach left or right wing rhetoric but perhaps it's good to know that they are thinking.

I can agree that slipping in things that aren't technically infrastructure isn't a good use of funds.

Yes, I mean in the mid-terms Republicans will win elections big time if the economy is perceived as being bad, which is apparently is right now.  

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20 hours ago, Cclm said:

It's not a government run rather there is government funds alloted. Several times the Truedue government has banned independent media in their press briefings. Many times the courts have overturned these bans but the independent media still was not able to attend at the time so the overturn is useless after the fact. 

We do not have free press as you do in the US. Our courts can order publication bans especially on high profile court cases. The media are not permitted to report information under the publication ban and this includes US news outlets.  Considering the media gong show with the Rittenhouse case this may not be a bad thing. It ensures a fair non corrupted trial. Cameras are usually never permitted in the court room either. 

Our freedom of speech laws are different and more restrictive as well. 

The CBC is government affiliated, but the majority of news media outlets are 'independent'.  Are you referring to "Canadian Content" funding?

The criteria for being part of the Prime Minister's press pool is the same as for the White House press pool: it's only for journalism media, not for commentary media.  There are objective criteria that determine what's journalism and what isn't, the Rebel is commentary and clearly doesn't qualify as a journalism outlet.

Your definition of objective reporting vs opinion / commentary seems to be based on whether it jives with your predetermined conclusions.  Earlier you referred to an objective report on the proud boys organization, which included a footnoted bibliography that had 95 different sources.  That's an incredibly well referenced "opinion".  

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39 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

You are obsessed with Trump, get over it. He is not in charge. There was already a stimulus under his admin and now Biden is doing 6 trillion more. Biden is making the decisions now, good or bad, it’s all on him at this point!

Honestly, if you don't want to read uncomfortable facts and opinions about Trump in this thread, you should ignore me.  I don't have a problem with accountability for Biden and it's clear that he expects it.  

I'm just wondering when you think it might be appropriate to talk about accountability for the worst and most corrupt president of our life times...you know, Trump?  The guy that you think is irrelevant even though he has the GOP by the short hairs and keeps lying about the 2020 election. 

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You should hear how the USA deals with missing native women.  

I guess you don't want to talk about why a fake news company should get a seat at the table with actual journalists. No one said they can't publish their garbage.  Youtube is a private company, they aren't obligated to do business with propagandists or charlatans.  

Freedom to censor or restrict anything they want. Which proves the can and are bias. 

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2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

He accused his own country of committing genocide against aboriginal women, that's dodging the subject?

Yes

 He said that and what has come of it? Nothing. What has he done? Nothing. 

He says all types of things but does absolutely nothing. So  flogging  himself and an entire country  is only  virtue signaling . 

He would say anything to appease those he thinks matter or the trendy narrative of the day. 

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55 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

The CBC is government affiliated, but the majority of news media outlets are 'independent'.  Are you referring to "Canadian Content" funding?

The criteria for being part of the Prime Minister's press pool is the same as for the White House press pool: it's only for journalism media, not for commentary media.  There are objective criteria that determine what's journalism and what isn't, the Rebel is commentary and clearly doesn't qualify as a journalism outlet.

Your definition of objective reporting vs opinion / commentary seems to be based on whether it jives with your predetermined conclusions.  Earlier you referred to an objective report on the proud boys organization, which included a footnoted bibliography that had 95 different sources.  That's an incredibly well referenced "opinion".  

Well a court case determined that they were legitimate enough to attend election debates so.....  The staff and network has journalist licences. 

Besides, if they are so obviously stupid, why would the PM care if they are there? Because they ask questions he doesn't like and other news media will not. 

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