What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

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Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!

6 hours ago, subee said:

I actually come from a journalistic background (father published a paper, sister was an editor for a daily, mother was a business editor).  They all went to journalism school - it actually is a real profession with a code of ethics. 

This doesn't mean squat now.  Todays media is garbage.  

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24 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Nobody has a problem with teaching accurate history (good, bad, and ugly). That is not what CRT does/teaches.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/reasons-critical-race-theory-terrible-dealing-racism/
 

https://www.christianpost.com/news/civil-rights-veteran-bob-woodson-attacks-crt-as-new-racists.html
 

 

 

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“Let’s be very clear,” said Woodson. “They are propagating a theory that harkens back to the days of racism, where they are saying that we should not be judged by the content of our character, but by the color of our skin.”

It sounds like Mr Woodson doesn't know what he's talking about but he's allowed his opinion.  I wonder if you think either of the citations you offered are authoritative on the topic of CRT or are particularly credible sources? I certainly wouldn't consider New Discourses to be a credible or accurate source. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

There's quite a bit to unpack in that paragraph. The trial isn't about race. What media is talking about race relative to the trial?

Can you quote Biden's words on the matter? Did you know that Rittenhouse was connected to the Proud Boys? I read about the jury incident in the Washington Post today.  The judge certainly reacted to it. 

I think it was Don Lemon.  Not for sure though, but one of those types had a big discussion about if Rittenhouse was black.

I haven't seen quotes from Biden, but a tweet of his talked about white supremacy with a pic of Rittenhouse.

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15 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:


Again bologna, this might be a news flash but Trump isn’t the President. 

 

This is the clear and present danger:

https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/22/the-drossy-touch-of-joe-biden/

https://cdapress.com/news/2021/nov/12/biden-signs-failure-abound/

One mustn't be president to represent a threat to our republic...perhaps that's the more relevant news flash.  Trump's refusal to concede loss, attempt to retain power after losing, and persistent lies about the election are a direct threat to our democracy. 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/11/opinion/trumps-big-election-lie-pushes-america-toward-autocracy/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/backers-trumps-false-fraud-claims-seek-control-next-us-elections-2021-09-22/

 

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25 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I think it was Don Lemon.  Not for sure though, but one of those types had a big discussion about if Rittenhouse was black.

I haven't seen quotes from Biden, but a tweet of his talked about white supremacy with a pic of Rittenhouse.

So...maybe one commentator on a cable network...OK. I've seen some discussion from Rittenhouse supporters wondering if a black shooter would have been treated differently. 

Maybe you could link to that Biden tweet please. 

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2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

Nobody has a problem with teaching accurate history (good, bad, and ugly). That is not what CRT does/teaches.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/reasons-critical-race-theory-terrible-dealing-racism/
 

https://www.christianpost.com/news/civil-rights-veteran-bob-woodson-attacks-crt-as-new-racists.html
 

 

 

 There are certainly ideas and teachings out there that encourage seeing racism where it doesn't actually exist, most don't have a problem with being critical of that.

That's actually what the issue is, lots of people do have a problem teaching accurate history.  There are a number of proposed laws and enacted laws that prohibit simply teaching that racial inequities have existed.  These have been surprisingly successful because they've been able to convince people like yourself that they aren't trying to prohibit the teaching of accurate history.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2021/09/29/critical-race-theory-bans-are-expanding-to-cover-broad-collection-of-issues/?sh=794323645e5d

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12 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

What is really bad form is to keep believing the main stream news organizations (like the ones in the articles I posted) when it is quite obvious that they do not tell the truth/lie.  
Anyone who truly wants to know the facts about CRT can research it, the truth is out there no matter what you or the MSM think (ie your, and their opinions). As I have said many times you do need to get off Google though or you may not find the truth, try a different search engine that is not left leaning. 
 

https://www.thecollegefix.com/yes-crt-is-taught-in-k-12-schools-heres-how/
 

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/8/educators-say-critical-race-theory-being-taught-k-/
 

https://floridianpress.com/2021/07/critical-race-theory-is-being-taught-in-k-12-schools-first-lady-biden-supports-it/

 

I also wonder why you keep going on about Trump (since he is out of office) instead of worrying about how the current admin (Biden/Harris) seems to be mucking up everything they touch.

And for another example of the MSN not telling the truth (or just trying to cause division) why are they making the Rittenhouse situation about race when race had nothing to do with it.  No matter how you see his actions it had zero to do with race, yet BLM and activists are protesting, and news agencies, and even the President (Biden) called him a white supremist with zero evidence. And just today MSNBC got kicked out of court for following jurors, not exactly professional or ethical.  
 

 

Sez you.  We have to do the best we can with what we have and try to detect bias in everything we read - including both sides.  Race did have something to do with race since the riots weren't started over cupcakes.  We can't just ignore the entire sequence of events since the cause is part of the story.

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11 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

I use different search engines in order to obtain different articles upfront (Google is bias and puts what they want you to see and also is not private at all). Lost of info including some tech stuff:
 

https://privacysavvy.com/security/safe-browsing/private-search-engines/#h-best-private-search-engines-for-2021

https://www.guru99.com/private-search-engines-anonymous-no-tracking.html

These look more like websites that drug dealers and criminals would use.  

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18 hours ago, Balbaroy said:

Wow, what naïve and pretentious comments for a site like AN.  Also, quoting a bias and liberal paper like the Washington Post and then just blindly attacking the "right" shows insulation and ingenuity on your part.  Honestly could care less about Right vs Left, Fox News vs CNN/MSNBC because they all just blindly throw mud at each other and never admit or concede anything.

I could easily find reputable and "professional journalistic" articles bashing Biden in so many different arenas but I don't live in an echo chamber.  

Do and be better than that, I know you can...

It's always a sign of intellectual weakness when one has to resort to name calling to make their argument.

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15 minutes ago, subee said:

These look more like websites that drug dealers and criminals would use.  

Nah. Some of us have used alternative search engines and browsers and VPNs for awhile now and some people are just learning about them.  Daisy4RN seems to be assuming that she is the only member here that might use something besides Google or Chrome. 

Regardless of the browser or the search engine, if you can't discern the differences between fact and fiction when reviewing search results the result is the same. DuckDuckGo will show us links to propaganda and nonsense just like Google will...DDG simply protects your data better. It certainly didn't prevent people from accessing or believing nonsense about CRT.

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2 hours ago, subee said:

It's always a sign of intellectual weakness when one has to resort to name calling to make their argument.

Fair and a good point.  Yet to be clear, I was referring to the comments more so than actual calling out one's character yet I see the inference.  I should have worded differently and I apologize ? 

I do feel like political muck raking on this AN website though is pretty low behavior...

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20 hours ago, subee said:

So you are saying that the timeline is inaccurate?  I actually come from a journalistic background (father published a paper, sister was an editor for a daily, mother was a business editor).  They all went to journalism school - it actually is a real profession with a code of ethics.  That is the difference between "real" newspapers and editorial comments by people who aren't educated in their craft.  Others who don't go to editorial meetings in the morning to actually discuss if what they are doing is quality, just doesn't define itself as journalism.  There are left wing rags and there are right wing rags, but I don't classify the WP as a rag since it makes a point to also use conservative writers.  You wouldn't know that if you don't read it, but my local newspaper uses commentators from the WP more than any other newspaper and I actually READ them rather than label them part of a conservative echo chamber.  

I understand that Journalism school is suppose to inter a code of ethics into it's students (much like the hippocractic oath for doctors) yet today more than ever, main stream Journalists from both sides do not follow it.  I personally try to read everything from both sides to gather a more complete picture because both sides fail to report the whole picture.

You know what really chaps my hide AN??? Why do Left/Right Rags or News sources consistently distort and mislead well know facts and information that is easily researched or found.  Case in point, the Rittenhouse trial.  The trial will end any moment now, all the witnesses have been called, testimonies given, and every detail of that fateful night have all been shown.  WHY ON EARTH (and I'll pick on the LEFT first) are newsrooms, liberal leaders still DISTORTING actual facts of the case??? And yes, I know why but it's alllllllll so infuriating....

Now for the Right and CRT.  I am not going to go into great detail about this but again, right wing pundits have largely mispresented and distorted the views on it.  Granted it is a tad bit harder to properly research it but there is still plenty of info easily found to get the gist.  The more I read about it and research, the more I favor it (not all of it but most of it)

I know, I'm an idiot for thinking like this but ugggghhhhhhh

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