I found this quote from a 2014 @Rose_Queen ::wavey:: post, but it bespeaks an older origin. Many familiar names if you go searching around using the bug search window. Be sure to check the box for “all terms” in your returns, or you’ll drown in unrelated stuff.
“The self-proclaimed crusty old bats are some of the posters I have learned the most from here at allnurses. And it may help to know the back story of the crusty old bat phrase- it came about after a newbie showed up, showing an attitude of extreme entitlement, and used it in a derogatory manner. Rather than get offended, us crusty old bats and future crusty old bats claimed the phrase and turnED it into an inside joke.”
Likewise, the term “old biter nurses” was a likely typo for “bitter,” but we embraced it in its absurdity and peripheral connection to NETY, “nurses eat their young.” Which we don’t, because somehow we survived our callow years of being corrected and now, older and wiser as the old ones before us were, are living proof of not having been eaten in the process and now seek only to make current newbies too tough to chew on.
This blast from the past is brought to you by …. well, you know.
So the hurt people, hurt other people approach? Hmmmm
I can't show love to people who try to hurt me. Ignore their existence, yes. Love, nope. I've had intensive experiences with an abusive narcissistic ex. My levels of giving a damn are exhausted.
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
13 hours ago, NurseBlaq said:
So the hurt people, hurt other people approach? Hmmmm
I can't show love to people who try to hurt me. Ignore their existence, yes. Love, nope. I've had intensive experiences with an abusive narcissistic ex. My levels of giving a damn are exhausted.
You've got it, NurseBlaq: The "hurt the other people approach" is a type of tough love. The other must experience discomfort, and embrace that discomfort, if they ever want to experience a higher consciousness. We are giving the other an opportunity for growth.
Your statement of "I can't show love to people who try to hurt me" doesn't settle well with me, because I sense that you can and you do show love to them, NurseBlaq. "Ignore their existence" is a type of love, in that it's self love in protecting your own well being and it's love for the other through not throwing stones.
There are but two human emotions: love & fear. Every other identifiable emotion stems from either love or fear. By ignoring another's existence and inflicting no pain on them for their wrongs done to you is love. It is a variety of the grand old proverb, live and let live.
See, NurseBalaq? You're more loving than you thought you were!
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
23 hours ago, sevensonnets said:
You're exactly right, NurseBlaq. For no other reason but to be mean.
On 5/30/2021 at 4:26 PM, Hannahbanana said:
Sure, because we have no vested interest or institutional memory that would make us care about standards of care or professionalism. Good call.
This is an example of an Us & Them mentality: "We are right and they are wrong. We are good and they are bad."
The problem with an Us & Them mentality is that is an end road- We close the book on Them, and they are not with which We need to, or have to, deal.
It is possible to assist in raising the consciousness of Them, guide Them, and allow Them to experience illuminating revelations with subsequent behavioral changes.
However, the vast majority prefers to label Them and chuck Them off as Lost Causes.
Done and done. We may return to a State of Complacency.
Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.
4 hours ago, sevensonnets said:
Because only the opinions of one or two people are tolerated here on AN, I no longer will be participating
Wait, wut? You lost me there. Last I looked there were thousands of people signed up. If the mods are erasing some people for intolerable comments, I’m not seeing it lately.
You've got it, NurseBlaq: The "hurt the other people approach" is a type of tough love. The other must experience discomfort, and embrace that discomfort, if they ever want to experience a higher consciousness. We are giving the other an opportunity for growth.
Your statement of "I can't show love to people who try to hurt me" doesn't settle well with me, because I sense that you can and you do show love to them, NurseBlaq. "Ignore their existence" is a type of love, in that it's self love in protecting your own well being and it's love for the other through not throwing stones.
There are but two human emotions: love & fear. Every other identifiable emotion stems from either love or fear. By ignoring another's existence and inflicting no pain on them for their wrongs done to you is love. It is a variety of the grand old proverb, live and let live.
See, NurseBalaq? You're more loving than you thought you were!
Specializes in Physiology, CM, consulting, nsg edu, LNC, COB.
As anyone who reads any kind of statistics must know, association is not causation. (I know Davey knows this.)
Cf., the mashed potato theory of homicide, which notes that the vast majority of murderers in the US have consumed mashed potatoes before killing somebody.
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Well, then; I hereby declare that I am a Crusty Old Bat, a proud member of the C.O.B. Society. ??