What do you consider to be nursing's biggest setback?

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Just wondering what some of you thought might be a big setback in the nursing industry? What is holding it back from being something that it may not be. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on this.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Not charging for nursing services.

Nursing salaries are just a part of the "room charge," putting our services roughly on a par with housekeeping and food service.

**** EXACTLY! There have been many good points raised here but as far as I am concerned the quote above is THE biggest mistake nuring ever made.

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Specializes in Emergency Medicine.

Nurse "mills" that have popped up over the past few years to help with the nursing shortage. They're turning out ill-prepared, under-educated, and clueless "nurses" that have no idea about the work involved with nursing.

Is it any wonder why there is a push for institutions to want the BSN nurses?

(Oh, and NO WAY do I want to see nursing "federalized". I believe in state sovereignty. The imperial federal government does not need any greater power or authority than it already posesses. Pain in the @$$? Sure but I wouldn't have it any other way.)

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Specializes in Critical Care,Recovery, ED.

See my Kudos on above posts.

Historically and going forward, Nursings problem has been it is a female dominated profession.

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Specializes in Med-Surg/DOU/Ortho/Onc/Rehab/ER/.
Women

A little sexist are we?

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
Historically and going forward, Nursings problem has been it is a female dominated profession.
Sadly, I somewhat agree with this.

The lower-paying college-educated professions are also the most heavily female-dominated: nursing, school teaching, social work, librarianship, and psychology. This is not a coincidence.

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Non-flexible medical staff. Those that want to stick to the "old ways" and don't want to bend and raise holy hell if you try to get them out of their rut, even if a new way may present a good exchange of time, energy, and information.

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Specializes in LTC,med-surg,detox,cardiology,wound/ost.

The biggest setback in the nursing industry? I take it you mean as a profession? One would be the lack of a unified point of entry with education. We have LPNs, ASNs, BSNs, MSNs. This affects everything in our culture- pay, expectations, advancement, etc. How many other professions allow entry with technical programs and 2 year and 4 year degrees- often for the same job? We are sometimes a culture of "a nurse is a nurse is a nurse".

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

the biggest setback in the nursing industry? i take it you mean as a profession? one would be the lack of a unified point of entry with education. we have lpns, asns, bsns, msns. this affects everything in our culture- pay, expectations, advancement, etc.

*** i can see large differences in pay an expectations between lpns and rns but not the others. please explain how everything is affected.

how many other professions allow entry with technical programs and 2 year and 4 year degrees- often for the same job?

*** well two that come to mind right off the bat are respiratory therapists and physicians assistants. in neither field does that fact that one can enter with an associates degree or bachelors degree (or certificate, associates, bachelors, or masters as is the case for pas) for the same job seem to cause the same lack of self esteem it does in nursing.

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Women

in before the lock!

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Sadly, I somewhat agree with this.

The lower-paying college-educated professions are also the most heavily female-dominated: nursing, school teaching, social work, librarianship, and psychology. This is not a coincidence.

school teaching, social work, library work, and psychology are also among the easiest of college degrees to get, from an academic standpoint. nursing is actually a bit more difficult, i suppose.

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Nursing students that get people on the internet to do their homework for them.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
Nursing students that get people on the internet to do their homework for them.

I don't know how tongue-in-cheek this post was, but it will come as no surprise to most regular posters that I strongly champion this position.

Nursing students routinely come here and just as routinely receive detailed homework answers. That's the black & white of it. They are given answers, often in great detail, to their homework quesitons. For my assertive stand against this practice, I have been accused of being 'old-fashioned' and "not current on how today's students learn."

I will beg to say that using the internet for homework is not the same as asking for and receiving homework answers carte blanche. For every student who posts here "HELP!!! ANSWERS NEEDED!!!," there may very well be 100 others who are quietly Googling their way through their homework. While I don't imagine for a minute that every single nursing student who graduates from an accredited school of nursing has "cheated" by asking Allnurses.com for answers, it does dismay me (on a global level) that:

(a) Students feel the need to ask for (and trust) homework answers from virtual strangers on the internet; and

(b) Nurses feel the need to feed homework answer to students because....well who knows? It makes them feel powerful and all-knowing? God only knows, but it happens. All the time.

Do I feel this that issue could lead to a setback in the education of our country's nurses? Absolutely!

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