I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
The things he wants require that our congress pass bipartisan legislation, the very thing that Trump and Republicans don't want.
Trump did not want to give Democrats a border victory since it's so important the Republicans to paint the picture that we want an open border and only they care and can fix it. They've put Johnson in the hot seat saying if he funds Ukraine by making a deal with the Democrats without closing the border he will face problems. It will be interesting to see how Johnson proceeds since despite supporting Ukraine he killed the last bill.
Interesting times in that republicans have such a slim majority in the House they have to either work with Democrats or be in nearly 100% agreement with their extremists. Meanwhile the Democrats have the slimmest of majorities in the Senate and need 100% agreement to get things passed there.
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"I can promise you, if you put a Ukraine bill on the floor and you haven't secured the border, there's going to be a problem within the ranks and on Capitol Hill,” said Freedom Caucus member Rep. Chip Roy, R-Tx., on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday.
.....The border has become a top voting issue in the 2024 election, mainly after Republicans tanked a spending package that would have provided $20 billion in border funding. Former President Donald Trump fueled Republican dissent, reportedly telling Republicans to oppose the package so as not to deliver Democrats a border victory during this election year.
Wisconsin swing voters largely blame Republicans — and specifically Donald Trump — for Congress' failure to pass bipartisan legislation to help improve border security, according to our latest Engagious/Sago focus group.
Why it matters: Interviews with voters who backed Trump in 2016 and flipped to President Biden in 2020 suggest that Biden's State of the Union speech last week left them feeling that Trump's GOP is more responsible for Washington's lack of action.
It's just a focus group of a few people, but I wonder if it echos the sentiment, fair or not, of swing voters elsewhere.
That's just you repeating the right wing claim that it's not fair to blame them for killing the bipartisan infrastructure legislation after they killed the bill, right?
That's just you repeating the right wing claim that it's not fair to blame them for killing the bipartisan infrastructure legislation after they killed the bill, right?
It's fair to blame Republicans for killing the border bill because they did. Some people don't think it's fair to blame Trump because it was a bad bill and that's why republicans killed it. I was merely acknowledging that aspect.
I'm a fair and objective person that is clearly on the left side and I deeply resent any sentiment that I would be repeating right wing claims. Now apologize for that insult. (Not really, I'm not that sensitive, but really you can't be serious.)
It's fair to blame Republicans for killing the border bill because they did. Some people don't think it's fair to blame Trump because it was a bad bill and that's why republicans killed it. I was merely acknowledging that aspect.
Exactly. I'm not sure if it's that difficult to understand for some, or if they're simply trying to spread misinformation to others who aren't paying that close attention to the story.
IDK if Trump is responsible or not. If he is, I give him credit and not "blame".
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Tweety said:
It's fair to blame Republicans for killing the border bill because they did. Some people don't think it's fair to blame Trump because it was a bad bill and that's why republicans killed it. I was merely acknowledging that aspect.
I'm a fair and objective person that is clearly on the left side and I deeply resent any sentiment that I would be repeating right wing claims. Now apologize for that insult. (Not really, I'm not that sensitive, but really you can't be serious.)
Nah, no apology is warranted. I think you regularly repeat right wing rhetoric back to Beerman and you just verified that is your objective. That practice and strategy has some effectiveness in highlighting how silly some of the right wing rhetoric sounds. For example it's silly to suggest that is not fair to blame Trump for setting Republicans against that bipartisan legislation because that's exactly what Trump did.
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Beerman said:
Exactly. I'm not sure if it's that difficult to understand for some, or if they're simply trying to spread misinformation to others who aren't paying that close attention to the story.
IDK if Trump is responsible or not. If he is, I give him credit and not "blame".
Sure. Give him credit for maintaining a national security crisis at the southern border and getting in the way of bipartisan legislation because that benefits him (and only him) politically. We can also give him credit for spreading misinformation about covid and causing conservative Americans to question public health guidance during a pandemic. We can give Trump credit for the longest government shutdown in our history and praising 20th century fascists on social media. He gets credit for messing with CDC function and covid testing. We can give Trump credit for helping to launder the reputation of the Saudi Prince that murdered a journalist who lived in the US. We can give Trump credit for lying about election integrity. We can give Trump credit for lots and lots of things.
Of course, Trump wouldn't accept responsibility (credit) for any of those things. He was very direct in saying he doesn't take responsibility for things that happened on his watch unless he perceives those things as "good" during his presidency.
Nah, no apology is warranted. I think you regularly repeat right wing rhetoric back to Beerman and you just verified that is your objective. That practice and strategy has some effectiveness in highlighting how silly some of the right wing rhetoric sounds. For example it's silly to suggest that is not fair to blame Trump for setting Republicans against that bipartisan legislation because that's exactly what Trump did.
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Tweety said:
Okay, thanks for being honest.
That's what we do here, have earnest and genuine discussions. Except when we're chasing nonsense to avoid talking about Trump's threat to our government.
I took you remark about an apology as tongue in cheek, did I misunderstand? Did you think that I was suggesting that you actually believe the right wing rhetoric that you repeat back to the conservatives? If so, I'll apologize. Clearly you aren't confused by that propaganda into thinking that it's unfair to credit Trump with the abandonment of the bipartisan immigration legislation. I felt you were simply acknowledging that Trump voters don't think that's fair.
I did. I don't know who was worst. The guy from the Heritage Foundation or Jim Jordan. That slap down from Leslie Stahl was fun. The first amendment has been hijacked by an obvious moron as a cause.
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subee said:
I did. I don't know who was worst. The guy from the Heritage Foundation or Jim Jordan. That slap down from Leslie Stahl was fun. The first amendment has been hijacked by an obvious moron as a cause.
She exposed Jordan. He shouldn't be in Congress. IMHO
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Trump did not want to give Democrats a border victory since it's so important the Republicans to paint the picture that we want an open border and only they care and can fix it. They've put Johnson in the hot seat saying if he funds Ukraine by making a deal with the Democrats without closing the border he will face problems. It will be interesting to see how Johnson proceeds since despite supporting Ukraine he killed the last bill.
Interesting times in that republicans have such a slim majority in the House they have to either work with Democrats or be in nearly 100% agreement with their extremists. Meanwhile the Democrats have the slimmest of majorities in the Senate and need 100% agreement to get things passed there.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/24/house-republicans-ramp-up-speaker-johnson-pressure-after-budget-saga.html