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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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I've been seeing snippets of the Jim Jordan weaponization committee on Twitter and it looks like a barn-burner. I'm in class now but I'm going to look for a recording later. 

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nursej22 said:

I've been seeing snippets of the Jim Jordan weaponization committee on Twitter and it looks like a barn-burner. I'm in class now but I'm going to look for a recording later. 

Me, too. Twitter files redux, I think. But we'll see.

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nursej22 said:

I've been seeing snippets of the Jim Jordan weaponization committee on Twitter and it looks like a barn-burner. I'm in class now but I'm going to look for a recording later. 

I have been watching his hearings.  The evidence and testimony doesn't support what the republican lawmakers keep saying... not in the least. 

toomuchbaloney said:

I guess we would have to trust the involved Republicans to not change their minds about the constitution when we know that there are Republicans in most states who agree with Trump about terminating the constitution or dismantling the DOJ or FBI. Who will place limits on what those people try to change? 

I know that the possibility of calling a constitutional convention has been previously discussed.  My question then, which realyy wasn't answered, as well as now is this: if those calling for this get the required 33 states to do so and a convention actually occurs, how exactly do you see them "terminating the constitution or dismantling the DOJ or FBI," considering that 38 states would be required to ratify it?

toomuchbaloney said:

Agreed.  I just don't think that Republicans are reliable or credible just now.  Too many of them are toying with or directly engaging in authoritarian or fascist activities.  

Yeah like stacking the Supreme Court.  Oh wait never mind.

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chare said:

I know that the possibility of calling a constitutional convention has been previously discussed.  My question then, which realyy wasn't answered, as well as now is this: if those calling for this get the required 33 states to do so and a convention actually occurs, how exactly do you see them "terminating the constitution or dismantling the DOJ or FBI," considering that 38 states would be required to ratify it?

Good question. TMB will have his own thoughts on that subject, but these are mine.

Ratification is certainly a very high bar to overcome, but anything is possible, especially given the power of mass media to affect public opinion.  It's all about controlling the narrative, aka defining the issues. Did you know that false advertising, aka lying, is perfectly legal in a political campaign?

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As for how the specific changes listed by TMB would be worded, I have no idea - and I'm sure various think tanks and the likes of ALEC are working in it even as we speak. Watch and wait.

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chare said:

I know that the possibility of calling a constitutional convention has been previously discussed.  My question then, which realyy wasn't answered, as well as now is this: if those calling for this get the required 33 states to do so and a convention actually occurs, how exactly do you see them "terminating the constitution or dismantling the DOJ or FBI," considering that 38 states would be required to ratify it?

I'm not certain... but it's easy to question the intentions of Republicans at the state level who have been legalizing elements of fascism.  We do know that propaganda works. 

Jury awards Black family $8.25 million in wrongful detention by deputies at California Starbucks

DAVID K. LI AND POLLY DEFRANK

March 9, 2023, 2:13 PM

Starbucks in Castro Valley, Calif. (Google)

A federal jury found that sheriff's deputies wrongly detained a Black family at a Northern California Starbucks and ordered compensation of $8.25 million.

Aasylei Loggervale and her two daughters had pulled into a Starbucks in Castro Valley, about 25 miles southeast of downtown San Francisco, in September 2019 when Alameda County sheriff's deputies handcuffed them in connection with a string of auto thefts, according to their federal lawsuit.

Jurors found in the plaintiffs' favor this month and set damages at $2.75 million for each of the three.

"This is vindication and validation for the Loggervales that they've been wronged, and that means a lot," Craig Peters, their attorney, said Thursday.

The deputies, who are white, are alleged to have told them they were being investigated for "car burglaries committed by unidentified Black men" in recent months, the plaintiffs said.

All three were handcuffed

Loggervale refused to show her driver's license as she and her daughters, who were 19 and 17 at the time, firmly but calmly "stated that they had not done anything wrong and had no connection whatsoever to any auto burglaries," their civil complaint said.

All three were handcuffed as deputies searched their car, purses and cellphones before they were released with no citations or criminal charges.

A federal jury in the Northern District of California found that deputies and Alameda County violated the constitutional rights of Aasylei Loggervale and her daughters, Aaottae Loggervale and Aasylei Hardge-Loggervale, and breached state civil protections against police harassment.

"The community's trust in my agency is foundational to my mission of maintaining a positive relationship with those we serve," Alameda County Sheriff Yesenia Sanchez said in a statement Thursday.

"The facts of this case are extremely important to me and our community members, however, I must reserve my comments until the case has been fully adjudicated through the court system.”

The county has until the end of the month to file an appeal, and Peters said Thursday that defense lawyers have not given him any indication whether they will continue the legal fight.

2 of the deputies are still employed

Representatives of the Alameda County Counsel Department and the county supervisor who represents Castro Valley could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

The two deputies who detained Loggervale and her daughters are still employed by the department, a sheriff's spokesperson said.

Loggervale's daughters are set to graduate from college this Spring: Aaottae Loggervale from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, and Aasylei Hardge-Loggervale from UCLA.

"I really hope that this becomes an opportunity for everybody to sit down together and say: 'OK this is a problem. How do we solve this?'" Peters said.

"How can we empower our law enforcement officers to do their job in such a way that it is not adversely impacting communities of color?"

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I gotta wonder what led the officers to suspect the women. The quoted article left that part out.

I suspect we're meant to assume racial profiling, but there are legal reasons to stop and search a citizen as well..

heron said:

I gotta wonder what led the officers to suspect the women. The quoted article left that part out.

I suspect we're meant to assume racial profiling, but there are legal reasons to stop and search a citizen as well..

The article I read said they were looking for a black male.  Bad cops do this to all races.  Glad she got a large settlement.  Imagine how much of this was going on before cell phone and body cam video.

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HiddenAngels said:

Jury awards Black family $8.25 million in wrongful detention by deputies at California Starbucks

DAVID K. LI AND POLLY DEFRANK

March 9, 2023, 2:13 PM

Starbucks in Castro Valley, Calif. (Google)

A federal jury found that sheriff's deputies wrongly detained a Black family at a Northern California Starbucks and ordered compensation of $8.25 million.

Aasylei Loggervale and her two daughters had pulled into a Starbucks in Castro Valley, about 25 miles southeast of downtown San Francisco, in September 2019 when Alameda County sheriff's deputies handcuffed them in connection with a string of auto thefts, according to their federal lawsuit.

Jurors found in the plaintiffs' favor this month and set damages at $2.75 million for each of the three.

"This is vindication and validation for the Loggervales that they've been wronged, and that means a lot," Craig Peters, their attorney, said Thursday.

The deputies, who are white, are alleged to have told them they were being investigated for "car burglaries committed by unidentified Black men" in recent months, the plaintiffs said.

All three were handcuffed

Loggervale refused to show her driver's license as she and her daughters, who were 19 and 17 at the time, firmly but calmly "stated that they had not done anything wrong and had no connection whatsoever to any auto burglaries," their civil complaint said.

All three were handcuffed as deputies searched their car, purses and cellphones before they were released with no citations or criminal charges.

A federal jury in the Northern District of California found that deputies and Alameda County violated the constitutional rights of Aasylei Loggervale and her daughters, Aaottae Loggervale and Aasylei Hardge-Loggervale, and breached state civil protections against police harassment.

"The community's trust in my agency is foundational to my mission of maintaining a positive relationship with those we serve," Alameda County Sheriff Yesenia Sanchez said in a statement Thursday.

"The facts of this case are extremely important to me and our community members, however, I must reserve my comments until the case has been fully adjudicated through the court system.”

The county has until the end of the month to file an appeal, and Peters said Thursday that defense lawyers have not given him any indication whether they will continue the legal fight.

2 of the deputies are still employed

Representatives of the Alameda County Counsel Department and the county supervisor who represents Castro Valley could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

The two deputies who detained Loggervale and her daughters are still employed by the department, a sheriff's spokesperson said.

Loggervale's daughters are set to graduate from college this Spring: Aaottae Loggervale from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, and Aasylei Hardge-Loggervale from UCLA.

"I really hope that this becomes an opportunity for everybody to sit down together and say: 'OK this is a problem. How do we solve this?'" Peters said.

"How can we empower our law enforcement officers to do their job in such a way that it is not adversely impacting communities of color?"

We can empower police to fire bad actors, eliminate any bits of qualified immunity, and to pay for their own legal settlements rather than ask the tax payers to pay them.  There's no reason that they can't provide their own professional insurance to cover their work related liabilities.  

It's good that there was some accountability.  

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