I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
They knew about the lab leak being called a conspiracy.
They will go about with blank faces trying to claim that no one did. Where's as being ignorant is more preferable then owning up to one's comments.
If I had the time, I am sure I could find several members alluding to the idea of a lab leak to a conspiracy or "right wing talking point". Perhaps I will when I'm waiting for a flight.
Liberals can never admit they or their ideas are wrong. There is always a qualifier. Right now the Google PhDs on here are looking up about Eric Holder saying he was Obama's wingman. They either won't respond to the comment or they will try and deflect it and explain it away.
Your lived experiences and opinions are not shared universally. Did you forget that?
Your lived experiences should have taught you that calling people names (idiot,children etc) then attempting to put them on your "ignore list", a online way of putting your fingers in your ear and stopping arround saying "I can't hear you, la la la" is ignorant and unbecoming of a person with your "age" and "wisdom". Well child like really. However being a child isn't a bad thing. A child is less likely to hate and be set in their bigotry ways. They have the potential to retain and learn more information that someone who is arround 78 years old?
I'm not a child, I have children and I will do my best to provide them the tools so they do not grow up to be a angry bigot that thinks their age gives them some sort of virtue status. Or their race gender etc. While calling people names and making false promises.
Pretty please! Put me on your list!!
Trust me ... you are. I know what you posted because TMB quoted you.
Your rationale amounts to an excuse for ignoring data points that don't support your propositions. Gerrymandered data => garbage conclusions. You certainly are welcome to your own opinions. You are NOT welcome to pretend that my experiences never happened. A short parable might illuminate this process and its dangers.
Once upon a time, I was active in women's health care. One of the stories making the rounds at the time was about the initial studies submitted for what were eventually proved to be very high dose oral contraceptives. Word was that there were a number of severe symptoms, including fatalities, that might have prevented approval in the USA. Those cases were "dropped from the studies".
Wanna take a guess as to what those complications were? Thromboembolism, strokes and deaths relating to those conditions.
Badness happens when you ignore inconvenient data.
Liberals can never admit they or their ideas are wrong. There is always a qualifier. Right now the Google PhDs on here are looking up about Eric Holder saying he was Obama's wingman. They either won't respond to the comment or they will try and deflect it and explain it away.
That's perfect because Allsides has determined Google to being 61% bias. Left side of course. Strong political bias.
Then they wonder why you do not always cite sources. When you do, they attack the source. It's an effective deflect.
Trust me ... you are. I know what you posted because TMB quoted you.
Your rationale amounts to an excuse for ignoring data points that don't support your propositions. Gerrymandered data => garbage conclusions. You certainly are welcome to your own opinions. You are NOT welcome to pretend that my experiences never happened. A short parable might illuminate this process and its dangers.
Once upon a time, I was active in women's health care. One of the stories making the rounds at the time was about the initial studies submitted for what were eventually proved to be very high dose oral contraceptives. Word was that there were a number of severe symptoms, including fatalities, that might have prevented approval in the USA. Those cases were "dropped from the studies".
Wanna take a guess as to what those complications were? Thromboembolism, strokes and deaths relating to those conditions.
Badness happens when you ignore inconvenient data.
It also happens when you follow inconvenient data. Covid proved that. And many people lost their jobs and Physicians were fired or their reputations ruined because of it. It goes both ways.
Trust me ... you are. I know what you posted because TMB quoted you.
Your rationale amounts to an excuse for ignoring data points that don't support your propositions. Gerrymandered data => garbage conclusions. You certainly are welcome to your own opinions. You are NOT welcome to pretend that my experiences never happened. A short parable might illuminate this process and its dangers.
Once upon a time, I was active in women's health care. One of the stories making the rounds at the time was about the initial studies submitted for what were eventually proved to be very high dose oral contraceptives. Word was that there were a number of severe symptoms, including fatalities, that might have prevented approval in the USA. Those cases were "dropped from the studies".
Wanna take a guess as to what those complications were? Thromboembolism, strokes and deaths relating to those conditions.
Badness happens when you ignore inconvenient data.
What are you even talking about? Oral contraceptives?
I have no idea of your lived experiences. You never said, only that you like to assert them.
What data did I ignore?
And if I ever state my life experiences, you are not ALLOWED to pretend my experiences ever happened either. However something tells me if you do not like my life experiences, you will IGNORE them. "Pretend they do not exist".
If you cannot accept diverse opinions other than your own, resort to name calling and acting like a child (as per your definition) by putting me in your ignore list, at your age, I doubt you will ever change.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
MaybeeRN said:
You mean like referring to something posted that you don't agree with right wing talking points? Or people you don't agree with as white nationalists? You talk about people being childish or I'll informed when it's the vast majority of liberals on here that live in a constant echo chamber. You and Nursej22 decry an Attorney General as being the President's wingman, but that is exactly the very words used by Eric Holder to describe his relationship with Obama. Libs on here had no clue about the Wuhan lad leak being called a conspiracy theory. I post a link and you try to deflect about it being Tucker Carlson blah blah blah. Perhaps some of you libs are the ones in the day care here.
Misrepresenting my remarks again. It's a habit, like you can't help yourself.
Oh... you were talking about Holder? Nice pivot. Meanwhile, YOU were the member suggesting that an AG behaving as a wingman was/is OK. Not the liberals in the discussion.
Everyone that has read or heard anything about COVID knows that a lab leak is a possible origin of the contagion. If they read outside of the right wing echo chamber and have any kind of open mind, they also know that there is no consensus on origin. While the various intelligence and investigative agencies believe it's plausible and could be the source, they can only say that the virus definitely sprang from the lab with low confidence.
Low confidence. Do you base a great deal of your personal beliefs on low confidence analysis?
Again, no members here called the possibility of a lab leak a conspiracy theory although many conspiracy theories around that possibility have been spun and sold to conservatives in right wing media. We already established that a few pages back. Your own citation didn't support your claim. We discussed it because even though you cited a well known liar and propagandist, I reviewed the information and then gave you my thoughts. That's not deflection. Isn't it odd that your media has you convinced that so many things related to COVID are political and partisan in nature?
It's fair game to point out that while your media choices may not be informing you, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity lied to you about the 2020 election, because it was profitable for them. They lied repeatedly using a variety of guests and graphics to keep you convinced that just maybe Trump didn't really lose or that just maybe that wasn't a free and fair election. What other lies are they telling you because it keeps you tuned in?
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Roitrn said:
Or you could have just clarified the statement pertaining to the members patriotism that I asked about? Instead of squawking about whatever "it" is.
However I imagine "you don't play those games", just like you don't watch CNN.
It's not really my job to keep you up to speed on the conversation. In context, my statement was clear. You should have read the thread for context rather than asking me to help you out after you indicated that my words implied something they did not... adult up.
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Roitrn said:
They knew about the lab leak being called a conspiracy.
They will go about with blank faces trying to claim that no one did. Where's as being ignorant is more preferable then owning up to one's comments.
If I had the time, I am sure I could find several members alluding to the idea of a lab leak to a conspiracy or "right wing talking point". Perhaps I will when I'm waiting for a flight.
Or maybe I can find where I ever mentioned the word "woke".
I didn't claim that no one called it a conspiracy theory. The people who may have used that language are not politically or scientifically important and do not influence my thinking as they do not represent the majority or leadership of anything.
You go right ahead and research that suspicion. Based upon recent history I fully expect one of two results of that suggestion; 1. A misrepresentation of what was actually said or 2. Silence.
Misrepresenting my remarks again. It's a habit, like you can't help yourself.
Oh... you were talking about Holder? Nice pivot. Meanwhile, YOU were the member suggesting that an AG behaving as a wingman was/is OK. Not the liberals in the discussion.
Everyone that has read or heard anything about COVID knows that a lab leak is a possible origin of the contagion. If they read outside of the right wing echo chamber and have any kind of open mind, they also know that there is no consensus on origin. While the various intelligence and investigative agencies believe it's plausible and could be the source, they can only say that the virus definitely sprang from the lab with low confidence.
Low confidence. Do you base a great deal of your personal beliefs on low confidence analysis?
Again, no members here called the possibility of a lab leak a conspiracy theory although many conspiracy theories around that possibility have been spun and sold to conservatives in right wing media. We already established that a few pages back. Your own citation didn't support your claim. We discussed it because even though you cited a well known liar and propagandist, I reviewed the information and then gave you my thoughts. That's not deflection. Isn't it odd that your media has you convinced that so many things related to COVID are political and partisan in nature?
It's fair game to point out that while your media choices may not be informing you, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity lied to you about the 2020 election, because it was profitable for them. They lied repeatedly using a variety of guests and graphics to keep you convinced that just maybe Trump didn't really lose or that just maybe that wasn't a free and fair election. What other lies are they telling you because it keeps you tuned in?
You got played and fell right into it. You and nursej22. Shows your ignorance with the fact you never knew Holder said it. That's what happens when CNN and MSNBC are your primary news sources. I fed you the bait and you fell for it. So much for your wisdom and knowledge. Hear that ding that's the school bell ringing.
I didn't claim that no one called it a conspiracy theory. The people who may have used that language are not politically or scientifically important and do not influence my thinking as they do not represent the majority or leadership of anything.
You go right ahead and research that suspicion. Based upon recent history I fully expect one of two results of that suggestion; 1. A misrepresentation of what was actually said or 2. Silence.
It's so consistent for you to ignore the fact that when you cite a source the posted content is reviewed and critiqued AND the quality and credibility of the source is critiqued.
Are you assuming that members here exclusively use Google?
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MaybeeRN said:
You got played and fell right into it. You and nursej22. Shows your ignorance with the fact you never knew Holder said it. That's what happens when CNN and MSNBC are your primary news sources. I fed you the bait and you fell for it. So much for your wisdom and knowledge. Hear that ding that's the school bell ringing.
I knew about Holder, that's a ridiculous assumption. I'm not certain what you think I fell for... it's not like you asked me a question that I couldn't answer or something. You've just jumped to a conclusion...a couple of them in fact.
Played...hahaha
Meanwhile you were the one who suggested that it's OK for the AG to be the wingman or henchman for the POTUS... not any liberal member here. Is that the play?
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Liberals can never admit they or their ideas are wrong. There is always a qualifier. Right now the Google PhDs on here are looking up about Eric Holder saying he was Obama's wingman. They either won't respond to the comment or they will try and deflect it and explain it away.