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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6
QuoteAccording to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
1 hour ago, londonflo said:No, he was not a private citizen. He was a public servant.
The House Ways and Means Committee received 6 years (2015 - 2020) of Mr. Trump's tax returns, he was a private citizen during 2 of those years.
From the New Yorker article @Beerman referenced:
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Aside from following the law, what are you hoping to gain now that you have access to these returns?
I think the opportunity is there now for public inspection.
That gets to the question of “Why release the returns?” Since former President Trump is now a private citizen, what is the point of releasing them to the public? Can you explain why that’s necessary?
Well, I think the real answer is that we now know that the mandatory audits never took place.
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Rather than release them for "public inspection," why don't they just have the IRS audit them now?
13 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:He didn’t say he was a private citizen. Should we also be able to get any public servant’s taxes? Why stop there shouldn’t we also be able to get any public servants medical records? We shall USD be able to see any public servants spouse and relatives tax records to ensure no improprieties are happening.
Yes... any public servant with high security clearance requires deep and specific scrutiny of taxes, finances, and personal entanglements with foreign or hostile entities. The employer has a right to know about those things. If you attempted to obtain a traditional job in government requiring clearance your employer would examine your taxes and finances and would deny clearance if you were deeply in debt or had delinquent taxes. We the People are the employer of the POTUS.
You're worried about citizens getting medical records of public servants and elected officials but celebrate changes which require government to access medical records of women because of abortion restrictions or bans. That's not even surprising in the era of Republicans campaigning in Pennsylvania on the medical status of a gubernatorial candidate. That's what hypocrisy looks like.
Because Trump refused to follow the precedent and voluntarily release his taxes and lied about the circumstances of that refusal for years, there is now a law that requires that financial disclosure. HR 347
QuoteThis bill requires the President, the Vice President, and certain candidates for President and Vice President to disclose federal income tax returns for the ten most recent taxable years.
The returns must be disclosed to the Federal Election Commission (FEC), which must make the returns publicly available after redacting information that is necessary for protecting against identity theft, such as Social Security numbers.
If the tax returns are not disclosed to the FEC as required by this bill, the Internal Revenue Service must provide the returns to the FEC upon receiving a written request from the FEC.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/347
Trump must release 10 years to run.
Re Presidential Tax Audits
Going back to President Nixon, he was found to have committed tax fraud, paid back taxes owed -- considered an embarrassment Thusly, since 1977 the IRS developed a Mandatory Presidential Audit Policy for the President and Vice President that their taxes be audited yearly and released to the public. This occurred EVERY YEAR since then -except for years 2016-2020 during Trumps presidency; many suspected at direction of Trump to Treasury Secretary Mnuchin to hide how little he paid in taxes and financial monies owed to foreign banks and entities, possibly influenced by them.
That's that the big deal is about.
Politico 07/19/2019
Inside the IRS's audits of the president
I think most of us can have our taxes looked at if the court thinks so. Same as pretty much anything private like texts, emails and laptops.
That Trump broke with tradition and said no to releasing his is fine with me and said so when we talked about it ad nauseum at the time.
I don't think all these years later with his history there's still political motivation for looking into his taxes. There's probably good reason given his tendency to lie.
2 hours ago, Beerman said:There is no requirement for a presidential candidate to release their tax returns. Voters knew that he had not released them, and he was elected.
There is no reason to release them to the public now, and it violates his privacy as a citizen. The Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee says they need to be available for "public inspection" as the audits weren't done. He also admits he doesn't know if they've always been done for past presidents.
This is obviously poltically motivated, and a terrible precedent. What's to keep them from doing this to any other private citizen they have a political beef with?
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-rationale-for-releasing-trumps-taxes
After Trump's dishonest shenanigans a law was passed and signed by Biden. In order to comply, all POTUS candidates must release 10 years of tax records and those records are released to the public after relevant things like addresses, etc are redacted. If the candidate won't comply then the IRS is tasked to release the tax documents to the committee for review... not block that review like Trump's appointee did.
Your fears are noted but it was Trump and Republicans that appear to have interfered with IRS activities and resulted in unusual audit behavior.
9 minutes ago, chare said:The House Ways and Means Committee received 6 years (2015 - 2020) of Mr. Trump's tax returns, he was a private citizen during 2 of those years.
From the New Yorker article @Beerman referenced:
Rather than release them for "public inspection," why don't they just have the IRS audit them now?
Trump has announced as a presidential candidate and current law requires public release of 10 most recent consecutive years of tax returns. For some candidates that could/would include time when the individual was a private citizen.
HR 347 Presidential Tax Transparency Act was introduced but not yet passed. That's what the House Ways and Means committee has been working on to get codified into law. Hope to be passed by the end of this session end of 2022 or will need to be reintroduced into next Congressional session.
6 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:After Trump's dishonest shenanigans a law was passed and signed by Biden. In order to comply, all POTUS candidates must release 10 years of tax records and those records are released to the public after relevant things like addresses, etc are redacted. If the candidate won't comply then the IRS is tasked to release the tax documents to the committee for review... not block that review like Trump's appointee did.
Your fears are noted but it was Trump and Republicans that appear to have interfered with IRS activities and resulted in unusual audit behavior.
Once again spewing nonsense without any evidence. Perhaps he didn’t get audited because the IRS was too busy harassing Conservative non-profits.
6 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:HR 347 Presidential Tax Transparency Act was introduced but not yet passed. That's what the House Ways and Means committee has been working on to get codified into law. Hope to be passed by the end of this session end of 2022 or will need to be reintroduced into next Congressional session.
Right... my bad... congressional Republicans won't vote for this.
4 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:Once again spewing nonsense without any evidence. Perhaps he didn’t get audited because the IRS was too busy harassing Conservative non-profits.
That's an interesting speculation that is completely detached from the statements of the fellow at the IRS responsible for the failure to audit or the available evidence. Is that a theory bouncing around the right wing echo chamber? It's a shame that you don't read the information cited in these threads.
23 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:Yes... any public servant with high security clearance requires deep and specific scrutiny of taxes, finances, and personal entanglements with foreign or hostile entities. The employer has a right to know about those things. If you attempted to obtain a traditional job in government requiring clearance your employer would examine your taxes and finances and would deny clearance if you were deeply in debt or had delinquent taxes. We the People are the employer of the POTUS.
You're worried about citizens getting medical records of public servants and elected officials but celebrate changes which require government to access medical records of women because of abortion restrictions or bans. That's not even surprising in the era of Republicans campaigning in Pennsylvania on the medical status of a gubernatorial candidate. That's what hypocrisy looks like.
Because Trump refused to follow the precedent and voluntarily release his taxes and lied about the circumstances of that refusal for years, there is now a law that requires that financial disclosure. HR 347
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/347
Trump must release 10 years to run.
Nope... not a law... just introduced. My mistake (for those who insist that I never admit to commenting in error).
24 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:Yes... any public servant with high security clearance requires deep and specific scrutiny of taxes, finances, and personal entanglements with foreign or hostile entities. The employer has a right to know about those things. If you attempted to obtain a traditional job in government requiring clearance your employer would examine your taxes and finances and would deny clearance if you were deeply in debt or had delinquent taxes. We the People are the employer of the POTUS.
You're worried about citizens getting medical records of public servants and elected officials but celebrate changes which require government to access medical records of women because of abortion restrictions or bans. That's not even surprising in the era of Republicans campaigning in Pennsylvania on the medical status of a gubernatorial candidate. That's what hypocrisy looks like.
Because Trump refused to follow the precedent and voluntarily release his taxes and lied about the circumstances of that refusal for years, there is now a law that requires that financial disclosure. HR 347
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/347
Trump must release 10 years to run.
Examining taxes and releasing ti the public are two different things. And no it does not require 10 years of tax statements to run for President. The requirements are spelled out in the Constitution and tax releases are not part of it.
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