Well, Isn't This Special

[nynursey_]

Discuss!

[PhillyRNtoBe]

Nope. No one has the authority to sell any information (damaging or otherwise) about anyone they have no signed agreement with to do same. IOW, if the owners of this website were to try to sell anything that uses MY NAME in conjunction with my employment, or states anything identifiable about me in any way, I would take them to court so fast their HEADS would spin.

If they were to put up any kind of "review", say on a site they run that says "Suzie Johnson, RN, took like forever to respond! She was an awful nurse!" they should expect a hefty libel/slander suit from Suzie Johnson.

Unless the nurses who are affected by this sign a statement releasing their information and all rights to use that information however that website wishes, the owners of that site are on the hook for EVERY.SINGLE.WORD they use.

I also imagine these jokers will be hit pretty hard with lawsuits once the people who signed up for the service realize all their private medical data is available to the highest (and lowest) bidder. They may or may not win, but think of the court costs involved!

Anyone seeing this lasting for more than it takes the legal paperwork to be filed?

Who knows what these freaks really do. At a minimum, they are collecting and storing the "notes" sections of the app where patients/family members can write anything they want about the nurses. That data is going to end up somewhere we won't like. Especially if this company is contacting our place of employment in order to track us down.

So if they only have permission to sell the patient's data what else can legally be done with the rest of it other than contact the employer? I believe that is how they get a hold of the nurse in the first place with this service, by calling the hospital/facility directly.

This is all indicative of how social media and technology will drastically change patient care in the future. It's actually scary when you think about how hard it is for industries to keep up with technology.

Maybe something like this will end up being the catalyst we need to raise more awareness publicly. Then maybe the masses will stop blaming their care takers for the amount of face time they receive. Sigh..wishful thinking, I know..

[golson]

People won't like that, but they won't know about that unless they read the terms and conditions. There is also the possibility that firms that supply background checks could buy this data up, or "people finding" services. Too much potential for shadiness here. I know that apple got beat up for some of the stuff in their itunes terms and conditions a few years ago, but I can't remember if they were forced to change it or if it was a PR move.

edit: that was in response to the last paragraph RNsRWe wrote.

[nurseprnRN, BSN, RN]

I tried to leave a negative review and it won't upload. THAT's special, too.

When you search for what people pay for hijacked data, medical data are the number one draw. Why? Because health data often contain a lot of access to financial data, personal info that could lead to somebody getting free care (under an assumed identity), banking and credit card data, and others. This disclaimer saying that they can harvest it and sell it is absolutely chilling.

[ixchel]

PhillyRNtoBe said:

Their Terms & Conditions should definitely be taken seriously. I just attached a screen shot of T&C. They can sell all the patient's medical data including the data about the nurse!

Why doesn't the nurse have to consent?! This is crazy!

[LadyFree28, BSN, LPN, RN]

roser13 said:

It's extremely easy to post a review. Just download the app (free) and you're entitled to review. DONE!

I saw yours!

[Guttercat, ASN, RN]

The Terms & Conditions are frightening. I can't imagine anyone who actually reads them would consent to this. But then again...people can be quite dumb.

Jimminy Christmas. What a scam.

I am interested in just how they determine how long it took "the Nurse" to arrive. The patient must have to press an end-timer button on the app.

[DeeAngel]

I am grateful I have the independent means to be fully retired at 62 and not work. Sad thing is I would really like to be out there working but it's just not worth the hassle, drama, customer service and endless demands I can't meet. The hospital where I worked now has such staff turnover that on most shifts nurses with a year or less experience are the only nurses on the unit. The experienced, older nurses are all gone. Only the new nurses are willing to put up with it to get that first year experience.

[DeeAngel]

Pepper The Cat said:

Questions:

1. I would assume that for this to work, the nurse in question would a) have to give the pt her cell phone number abd b) carry said cell phone with her.

2.would it work with all cell phones or just iPhones?

3 what happens when nurse goes home?

don't see any nurse agreeing with this!

epic fail

At the hospital where I worked every nurse had a hospital issued cell phone to carry, designed just for hospital use. I would never give anyone my cell number because they are forbidden to be used while on duty as per most hospital policies. Even if it wasn't against policy my phone is kept in my locker.

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

ixchel said:

Why doesn't the nurse have to consent?! This is crazy!

He or she DOES have to consent. Otherwise, it's fodder for a lucrative lawsuit.

Will it stop misuse of info? No....but it sure makes it compensable!

[ixchel]

RNsRWe said:

He or she DOES have to consent. Otherwise, it's fodder for a lucrative lawsuit.

Will it stop misuse of info? No....but it sure makes it compensable!

But how could we? Do we consent on the patient's device?

[nynursey_]

I have to say that even if this app never gets removed, I'm glad I was able to bring light to the fact that such an inappropriate thing exists. Only when the general public understands how much this violates all ethical principles of healthcare and does nothing to foster a positive environment where patients AND nurses are able to thrive. The negative reviews only drive home that point.

You guys are amazing! This is why I love being an AN member. ❤️

[golson]

Looks like it has been removed from the google play store.