Very upset.

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please excuse the lack of appropriate capitalization...my cat spilled milk on the keyboard, and I am still having trouble...

i'm a first semester student, a-b grades. clinical reviews were fine midterm. there is a person in my clinical group who is a gossip, malicious and someone who enjoys stirring the pot. this person will actively accumulate grievances and solicit folks' complaints about others. sadly, this time i was the target.

i knew trouble was brewing, because my clinical instructor spoke with me about three certain events. in the interest of brevity, i won't go into details at this time, but i explained my actions, was not written up, but advised to deal better with other people's boundaries. fine, i can accommodate that; it's not easy, but i can do that. i did, at the time of the talking to, explain what had happened, and i thought we had moved past that. upon further consideration and a bit of a cooling-off time

overnight, i approached my clinical instructor the next morning and asked for a one on one meeting with the person who lodged the complaints against me, mediated by the instructor. i felt it would be best to clear the air between them and i...she said she'd ask them. turns out that person refused to do it one on one, approached me, told me that 'the whole group has a problem with you, and we're going to deal with it as a group.'

i went to my clinical instructor, told her i was not willing to sit there in a group and listen to them gang up on me; that if certain people had issues, i was more than willing to deal with them one on one, but not in a public situation. she reassured me that would not happen. further, since she and i had already addressed the issues, i wasn't sure what purpose having a 'group meeting' would do other than be humiliating and upsetting to me. again, she agreed, and reassured me it would not happen.

guess what happened...

Yesterday, in post conference, the 'group meeting' was had. not only with our clinical group, but with two other people from a group whose teacher had been absent that day. not only those two people, but our class coordinator to whom i had not addressed anything with, and who had not discussed anything with me.

let's just say i sat there for an hour, defensive and fighting to maintain control. i sat there and heard things which did not happen get discussed; i heard how i was neglecting my patient, and on and on. when i left the room, i made it out to the street before crying. there were several people who both said this group meeting was uncomfortable for them, and who also defended me.

the upshot of all this is that i am very, very, very upset. i feel utterly betrayed by my instructor, and like i can't go to her and believe what she says about anything; after all, she told me this would not happen.

i feel completely humiliated; and feel as though if i say anything, it will be taken as relatiatory, and looked upon badly.

but mostly, i am beyond furious that i was accused of neglecting a patient. at no time, in no way, shape or form, have i ever neglected a patient; if i did something the rn asked me to, it was when my patient was zonked on norco or in xray or whatever...in other words, when i had time to assist.

now, let's face it. have i made mistakes...of course. i'm a student. i'm going to err. that's what being a student is about. did the clinical instructor write me up/ again, no...

what has got me sleepless and completely anxiety-ridden is the way this was handled. i did not expect, nor did i appreciate, being put into the middle of a group and told how horrible i am. i did not appreciate, nor deserve, people outside the group being part of this, especially as they had nothing to do whatsoever with the incident/s/ in question. and i most certainly do not appreciate being told this was not going to happen, and having it happen.

i feel bushwhacked, ambushed, ganged up on, whatever the term you choose to use, i feel it. i am humiliated, furious, upset, and have been in tears on and off since this happened. i can't trust my clinical instructor; and only a few folks in clinicals at this point.

i am exhausted; it's 2;30 am, i should be fast asleep, but i never even got to bed last night. i go to class in a few hours...and i don't know what to expect or if another bomb is waiting to go off.

i can't believe that this is happening; i am not willing to ever be publicly humiliated like this again...i wasn't willing to be in this situation in the first place. i am a mature adult, and don't expect to be treated like a child, and don't appreciate it, either.

and i don't know what to do. i can do nothing, or i can escalate, or i can wait and see. i'm just not sure how to protect myself from future assaults and yes i see this as an assault...

what would you do, and how would you do it.

again, thanks for bearing with the poor keyboarding...i will have a new keyboard shortly, because i can't stand this either.

best-

lovin learning

although not so much right now...

Specializes in Telemetry.

Just keep your eyes on the prize, this too will pass. I would not say another word to them about the meeting. I would go to class and do what is expected of me by my clinical Instructor. Trust God he will see you through.

I wanted to add, for the benefit of other students or staff nurses reading this thread: If you ever find yourself in a situation like this, where you are being corrected, disciplined or berated in public, or in a private meeting attended by people who have no business being there (your fellow students), calmly get up and state that you will not continue the discussion in an inappropriate manner. State that you are on your way to Human Resources (or the Dean's Office) to obtain assistance in addressing the issue and that the other party is welcome to join you.

I know it's easy for me to say from the comfort of my kitchen, but I've learned from past experience. Do not ever allow yourself to be publicly humiliated. The other person has planned this meeting (or attack). They intend to catch you off guard because it puts you at a disadvantage. Don't allow them to do so. End the ambush immediately by calmly stating that you will discuss the issue in an appropriate setting when you have had the same opportunity as they have had to prepare.

BINGO!!!! and if they try to prevent you from leaving, suggest charges of illegal restraint......if this were a work environment, this would be "hostile work env." for sure

thank you all...thank you so much.

i went to class, and despite some looks and attitude, made it through. two instructors i enjoy very much were teaching on pharm and tb; enjoyed the lectures, and even enjoyed the bright sunshine on break.

i am going to go lay down and see if i can't get some rest; i'm just overtired in addition to being very upset, and i can't think straight at the moment.

some comments, though, before i nod off.

jolie, had i thought i could walk out and not be disciplined harshly, i absolutely would have. we have been drilled and drilled about showing respect to our peers and our instructors, and it would have been seen as disrespect to have done that. i would also have been written up for that. at the moment, i didn't think i had an option...but i realize i should've taken the write up instead of the public stockade flogging. i'll know if there's a next time...

queenjean, i have pulled out the nursing handbook, early lecture notes, and the catalog wherein disciplinary actions are described. i haven't found yet where it states the proper way to address issues just yet, but i recall a quiz on it...so i know it's in the early stuff. further, some classmates who were there told me that they recalled it being written somewhere...so i know i'm not simply imagining things. lol...lack of sleep will do that. if memory serves correctly, discipline is to be private, between instructors and offending party; nowhere did it say a public meeting will be held and heads will roll. believe me, i was accepted into several programs, and if that had been the policy, i'd've gone elsewhere. and your recommendation to write down everything is exactly what i will do this weekend...i'm not sure to whom i will address this just yet, but i firmly believe that if it happened to me, it's probably happened before, and will definitely happen again. i'm not willing to have anyone be put through this humiliation and mortification again.

and queenjean, there are definitely things i can learn from this. i made mistakes, i spoke with my clinical instructor about them, and a plan and commitment was made between she and i to address and correct them. everything can be learnt from...and i'll do my share of it, i promise.

morte, as i am an uncompensated employee of the hospital, i do believe this makes me a full rights employee. in other words, although i am not paid, i am still covered by all policies, obligations, and procedures in place as for paid employees. as such, i do believe this qualifies for the title hostile work environment, or in the very least, a hostile learning environment.

lilla, it was a man who instigated this whole mess...a male student. sigh. so much for that, you know. further, it's not a matter of being picked on; rather, it's a behavior pattern that i am not willing to look the other way on. i'm just not sure exactly where to take it yet. and if my actions ever jeopardized a patient, you bet i'll take it and suck it up. this is not the case here, however, and that's what i'm addressing.

statebomb, my focus is exactly why i disciplined myself and went to class this morning. i'm going to be a nurse, and they won't stop me. it's quite literally that simple.

as i said in the beginning, i need to get some sleep under my belt; i'll be in a better frame of mind once my head is not buzzing from lack of sleep.

best-

lovin' learning.

May God bless you (and He has today... with strength...) and keep you.

You are gonna be an AWESOME nurse!

Blessings~

Specializes in ICU.

They sound like a lot of bullies and this should not have been allowed to happen. I would definitely speak to your tutor about it. Hope you feel better once you have had some sleep.

Mary

:nurse:Dear LovingLearning,You have just learned a few things,about people and how they will treat you.If you give people the power to treat you any kind of way belive me they will.As I look at your name LovingLearning it is a good name you have learn,but stay focus and just be loving.You will be a better Nurse if u just went on and did you.You see them super Nures don't last long in this field.So walk in class with your head high and if someone say something just tell them they r proably right but u r doing u.

to the OP: you were being disrespected, to have gotten up and announced that you would not tolerated this behavior, and walking out the door, would not have been disrespectful, AT ALL.

to the OP: you were being disrespected, to have gotten up and announced that you would not tolerated this behavior, and walking out the door, would not have been disrespectful, AT ALL.

I agree - and Jolie's advice is correct. Do not be intimated into accepting disrespectful and unprofessional treatment.

steph

I am not a nurse or nursing student yet...but what I will say is this guy that has created these problems for you.....he will one day really tick off some charge nurse or someone high up....boy, then his heads gonna roll! Karma is a.....you know the rest! Good luck, and keep your head up high!

Specializes in Maternal - Child Health.
to the OP: you were being disrespected, to have gotten up and announced that you would not tolerated this behavior, and walking out the door, would not have been disrespectful, AT ALL.

I agree.

Not to belabor the point, but I have had to work on this with my daughter. She is a very "by-the-book" kind of child, who believes it is disrespectful to speak up to a teacher. She has a medical condition which sometimes requires attention at school, but because of the lack of a nurse in her elementary school building, I have instructed her to call home at the first indication of a problem and I would bring her medication. One day she was in a class led by a teacher who didn't know her well, and who got ***** because he thought she was exaggerating her need to call home. He refused to give her permission to go to the office and use the phone. Not willing to cross a teacher, she suffered in pain for hours, and was sick as a dog by the end of the day. (By the time I got done with the teacher, he was sick as a dog, too.)

I have had to work on convincing her that it is NOT disrespectful to simply state to a teacher, "I feel ill and I'm going to the office to call my mother, " regardless of whether or not the teacher "grants permission."

In a work or school situation, I would stress the importance of not getting defensive, not arguing back, not losing one's temper, just calmly stating that you will not continue to participate in an inappropriate conversation in this setting, and you are on your way to the supervisor's office. Nothing disrespectful or unprofessional about that, and a stark contrast to the ambush you experienced, and others will experience at the hands of co-workers, irate family members, power-hungry instructors, physicians, etc.

I'm proud of you for going back today. You are a strong person and will be an asset to our profession.

You got really good advice from everyone here. Usually when someone feels like theyre a target, I usually ignore the post or type a long something backspace backspace backspace..and delete it.

The thing that stuck out in your post, is that it made other students feel uncomfortable. That right there raised a big flag, I definitely believe in showing respect to our instructors but it seems as if they have no respect for you as a human being. If theres anyone in that classroom that needs to be disciplined its that clinical instructor youre working with. I would request to switch groups, you dont need to be belittled in front of any group for any reason.

I sincerely wish you lots of luck, this is going to be one of those hurdles youre just going to have to get over. The upside is..

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jolie and morte, you're both correct when you say it wouldn't have been disrespectful, and in hindsight, if i could do it over again, i'd walk out; both for my own boundary controls as well as in not allowing colleagues be subjected to this. all i can say as to why i didn't was because i was intimidated and totally taken aback at this whole thing, and didn't have any chance to get my head together. which was,of course, as was stated; they didn't want me to have that chance.

yes, nat, several other folks came to me today and said they were very upset at what had transpired. one, during the post, even said she wanted to go home, because this was uncomfortable for her. of course, i was made to feel like it was my fault that she felt uncomfortable, but it was the situation and not me. and i know she was not alone. thanks for replying, and understanding that i'm not necessarily just whining to whine.

i took the rest of the day off today, and managed a little nap; i will dig up the paperwork tomorrow. i don't have classes or clinicals tomorrow, and it's a study/play day for me, so i'll find out where it is written how disciplinary action works. then i'll get a new keyboard and write up something, and figure out who to give it to.

i am still greatly upset, but hearing from you all that you concur that this was incorrectly handled makes me feel a bit better. i mean, i know how i feel; but to know that both other students and rns feel the same way is validating. if that makes sense. i'm just not used to highschool; i'm 43. i haven't been in high school in years, and didn't exactly enjoy it the first time around, either. lol.

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lovin learning

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