Valid Reasons To Not Get Vaccinated

[jive turkey]

Whether you're in support of the COVID vaccine, against it,  or on the fence please use this particular thread to cite credible, evidence-based sources to share with everyone so we can engage in a discussion that revolves around LEARNING.  

I'll start:

The primary concerns I've shared with others have to do with how effective the vaccine is for those who have already been infected.  I've reviewed studies and reports in that regard.  There are medical professionals I've listened to that, in my personal opinion,  don't offer a definitive answer. 

Here are some links to 2 different, I'll start with just 2:

Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

Just now, subee said:

I'm having a difficult time discerning just what your view is.  I guess your point is to come stir the pot rather than make a coherent argument.  Since you can't, you just are having fun.  Are you fully an adult?

I like giving out different opinions to help others look at other options they the one they have. 

[toomuchbaloney]

1 minute ago, Jeckrn1 said:

I like giving out different opinions to help others look at other options they the one they have. 

It's irresponsible for a health professional to suggest that people should make health decisions upon anonymous opinion rather than science, facts, data and expert analysis/recommendations. Are you a health professional?

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yeah...so how many people would that be, according to your calculations? Are you suggesting that is not enough people to really have concern?

That's not a valid reason to remain unvaccinated. 

I am just giving numbers so people can make an informed decision for themselves. It does not matter to me if agree with me or not. I like seeing true numbers to make decision for myself. 

[toomuchbaloney]

4 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

I am just giving numbers so people can make an informed decision for themselves. It does not matter to me if agree with me or not. I like seeing true numbers to make decision for myself. 

You didn't share true numbers, you shared an equation without translating it into true numbers.  

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It's irresponsible for a health professional to suggest that people should make health decisions upon anonymous opinion rather than science, facts, data and expert analysis/recommendations. Are you a health professional?

It is also irresponsible for healthcare professional to suggest that a health decision is made by only some of the facts and get offended when those facts tell more of the story then the partial facts they gave. 
 

can you show me where I gave anonymous opinions about someone getting or not getting any healthcare, not just the vaccine?

[toomuchbaloney]

4 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

can you show me where I gave anonymous opinions about someone getting or not getting any healthcare, not just the vaccine?

 

12 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

I like giving out different opinions to help others look at other options they the one they have.

Isn't that you admitting that you like to do just that?

[Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN]

https://thenib.com/saddle-up/  
 

great little summary….

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

11 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You didn't share true numbers, you shared an equation without translating it into true numbers.  

Percentages were OK until they do not support your opinion they then are wrong and you want true numbers. That is what I have given but I will list them again

If the reinfection rate for people who had Covid and got vaccinated is 0.08% or 8 out of 1000 then the number of people who had Covid and did not get vaccinated is 0.187% or 18.7 out of 1000. 

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

Just now, toomuchbaloney said:

 

Isn't that you admitting that you like to do just that?

I like other opinions that is one way that I learn. I never gave my opinion if some should or should not get vaccinated. I listed some reasons why people might have doubts about getting vaccinated.  I just give whole numbers to go with percentages. Plus some ideas for people to think about when they have strong opinions and why pushing hard makes others push back. 

[toomuchbaloney]

2 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

I like other opinions that is one way that I learn. I never gave my opinion if some should or should not get vaccinated. I listed some reasons why people might have doubts about getting vaccinated.  I just give whole numbers to go with percentages. Plus some ideas for people to think about when they have strong opinions and why pushing hard makes others push back. 

Anonymous opinions on digital forums or social media platforms might be interesting but they are the worst foundation for health decisions.  

In my view, you are trying to use a math equation to minimize the amount of suffering and death those numbers would represent.  

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

16 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 

Isn't that you admitting that you like to do just that?

As I stated did I give my opinion for someone to get or not get the vaccine?  As far as they other opinions maybe I should have said reasons why someone might not get the vaccine. 

[toomuchbaloney]

11 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

As I stated did I give my opinion for someone to get or not get the vaccine?  As far as they other opinions maybe I should have said reasons why someone might not get the vaccine. 

You haven't presented a valid reason to not vaccinate outside of medical contraindication.  Would you like to offer one up for discussion?