Valid Reasons To Not Get Vaccinated

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Whether you're in support of the COVID vaccine, against it,  or on the fence please use this particular thread to cite credible, evidence-based sources to share with everyone so we can engage in a discussion that revolves around LEARNING.  

I'll start:

The primary concerns I've shared with others have to do with how effective the vaccine is for those who have already been infected.  I've reviewed studies and reports in that regard.  There are medical professionals I've listened to that, in my personal opinion,  don't offer a definitive answer. 

Here are some links to 2 different, I'll start with just 2:

Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

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9 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

A historical review of vaccination injury. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/

From the linked article:

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Although the evidence supports the safety of vaccines, there are rare instances where causal relationships between vaccination and death have been established or a plausible theoretical risk exists.

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Vaccines are rigorously tested and monitored and are among the safest medical products in use. Millions of vaccinations are administered to children and adults in the United States each year. Serious adverse reactions are uncommon and deaths caused by vaccines are very rare. Healthcare providers can take specific actions to help prevent adverse reactions, including proper screening for contraindications and precautions and observing a 15-minute waiting period after vaccinating to prevent fall-related injuries from syncope. 

Did I miss your point or were these quotes helpful?

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7 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

That's right.  The employee gets to choose whether or not to follow the employer policies regarding vaccination.  That's been true for your entire working life. 

"It's a private company, they can do what they like." Literally the way the government is able to impose their will. Biden and Co. "recommended" that companies require vaccines. I'm sure the federal government will withhold funding from any health care facility that doesn't mandate them. You don't have a problem with the fact that our democracy is a sham?

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8 minutes ago, nuanced said:

"It's a private company, they can do what they like." Literally the way the government is able to impose their will. Biden and Co. "recommended" that companies require vaccines. I'm sure the federal government will withhold funding from any health care facility that doesn't mandate them. You don't have a problem with the fact that our democracy is a sham?

Well that's your opinion, but you haven't supported that opinion with anything credible so, I'll accept it as your opinion. 

Meanwhile, what valid reason would you give for not vaccinating against a dangerous and very contagious pandemic level viral illness?

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30 minutes ago, nuanced said:

"It's a private company, they can do what they like." Literally the way the government is able to impose their will. Biden and Co. "recommended" that companies require vaccines. I'm sure the federal government will withhold funding from any health care facility that doesn't mandate them. You don't have a problem with the fact that our democracy is a sham?

I know this is off topic, but to be clear, we have a representative democracy; we vote the representatives into power and they legislate. If you don't like the legislation, then you get out and vote. 

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1 hour ago, nuanced said:

"You're not being forced, you can just get fired." Give me a break.

Same as when I was hired.

What kind of system are you in in which you were not required to be vaccinated to go to school then work?

 

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23 minutes ago, BostonFNP said:

I know this is off topic, but to be clear, we have a representative democracy; we vote the representatives into power and they legislate. If you don't like the legislation, then you get out and vote. 

Nope. we have a representative republic (at least on paper). They are different things. And if you don't like a particular legislation, you go to court. The ballot box is a very inefficient way to address grievances. 

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16 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

Nope. we have a representative republic (at least on paper). They are different things. And if you don't like a particular legislation, you go to court. The ballot box is a very inefficient way to address grievances. 

Semantics. You can read about that type conservative political argument in The Bulwark. https://www.thebulwark.com/anti-democratic-conservatism-isn't-new/

Meanwhile, what do you believe is a valid reason to remain unvaccinated besides medical contraindication?

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4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Semantics. You can read about that type conservative political argument in The Bulwark. 

Meanwhile, what do you believe is a valid reason to remain unvaccinated besides medical contraindication?

What do you believe is a valid pain complaint?

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9 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

Nope. we have a representative republic (at least on paper). They are different things. And if you don't like a particular legislation, you go to court. The ballot box is a very inefficient way to address grievances. 

It got rid of Trump 

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2 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

What do you believe is a valid pain complaint?

Start a thread about pain and we can talk about it.  I have some experience in palliative care.  

This thread begs for your valid reason to remain unvaccinated.  Are you having trouble thinking of a valid reason?

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22 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

Nope. we have a representative republic (at least on paper). They are different things. And if you don't like a particular legislation, you go to court. The ballot box is a very inefficient way to address grievances. 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/lesson-plans/Government_and_You_handouts.pdf

But our form of government is not a valid reason for not being vaccinated. 

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5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Start a thread about pain and we can talk about it.  I have some experience in palliative care.  

This thread begs for your valid reason to remain unvaccinated.  Are you having trouble thinking of a valid reason?

I figured you wouldn't get it. It's not for me to judge whether someone's pain complaint is valid. Pain is what they say it is. I assume you know that.

In the same way, someone's decision about vaccination acceptance is their's to make. Nurses and doctors may not agree, but those opinions are irrelevant. The only opinion that matters is the pt's. Period.

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