Voter suppression is UnAmerican and can not be tolerated. Majority Vets get their meds shipped via USPS -60,000/day
Philadelphia Inquirer 8/14/2020
Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy | Editorial
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On Thursday morning, after months of attacks on the United States Postal Service and vote-by-mail, President Donald Trump admitted that the two efforts are connected as a part of one voter disenfranchisement effort. In a Fox Business Network interview, Trump said that the sticking point for him in the negotiations over a new coronavirus economic relief package is Post Office funding: “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”
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My beloved uncle joined the United States Marine Corps in 1940. He served in Iceland, New Zealand, Guadalcanal, Bougainville Island and Guam.
Returning home he ran a successful business and raised six kids, put them all through college. The four boys achieved Eagle Scout. We were blessed that he lived to be 94 due to the excellent care he received at the Oklahoma City VA hospital and clinics. He would discuss with me his medications that were delivered on time each month for almost forty years.
Now VA patients who live in the country as we did may lose their very lives after fighting for our lives and freedom.
How dare anyone NOT insist the Post office perform their Constitutional obligation to provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and to render postal services to all communities?
While I of course agree with the constitution I think we also have a responsibility, as we the people, to at the same time hold gov accountable for the way our money is spent. As we all know the gov always wastes money, and mismanagement is one of those ways IMO. My local post office is a hot mess.
How can removing mail sorting machines be cost effective?
If you read the above post OR watch the video you may learn that the Postal SERVICE has important obligations to the People of the United States.
How dare anyone NOT insist the Post office perform their Constitutional obligation to provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and to render postal services to all communities?
Not sure why you are putting words in my mouth but that is not what I said nor meant.
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2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:
Not sure why you are putting words in my mouth but that is not what I said nor meant.
I was not quoting anyone. I'm sorry about the mix up. I was wondering why the administration in power doesn't do all they can to ensure the Post office performs their Constitutional obligation to provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and to render postal services to all communities?
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This issue is getting WORSE---- now the USPS is removing collection mailboxes in Oregon and Montana and in Manhattan. Montana was ordered to remove 40% mailboxes per news reports
No, You’re Not Imagining Things. Mailboxes Are Actually Being Ripped From The Ground.
Removal of some postal boxes in state angers Montana officials
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A spokesman for the U.S. Postal Service said Friday the installation and removal of the Postal Service’s "iconic blue" collection mail boxes “from streets across the country has been based for decades on mail volume received in those boxes. It is a fluid process and figures can vary from day-to-day
I was not quoting anyone. I'm sorry about the mix up. I was wondering why the administration in power doesn't do all they can to ensure the Post office performs their Constitutional obligation to provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and to render postal services to all communities?
Sorry, I just assumed you were quoting/speaking to me, thanks for clarifing. I totally agree that the post office should be providing the services you state. I also have elderly relatives who depend on that.
Mail boxes have been removed in my area long before now (years ago). When I asked at the PO they said it was bc of vandals and also cost effective measures bc not too many people were using those boxes anymore. So, on the one hand people cant say Trump should be holding the PO accountable and then say he shouldn't be removing mailboxes etc (which is a cost effective measure), cant have it both ways. I think Trumps opponents (the media and Dems) just found something else with which to continue their rants.
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1 minute ago, Daisy4RN said:
Sorry, I just assumed you were quoting/speaking to me, thanks for clarifing. I totally agree that the post office should be providing the services you state. I also have elderly relatives who depend on that.
Mail boxes have been removed in my area long before now (years ago). When I asked at the PO they said it was bc of vandals and also cost effective measures bc not too many people were using those boxes anymore. So, on the one hand people cant say Trump should be holding the PO accountable and then say he shouldn't be removing mailboxes etc (which is a cost effective measure), cant have it both ways. I think Trumps opponents (the media and Dems) just found something else with which to continue their rants.
Trump already told us that his "work" with the USPS was directly related to mailed ballots and the election. That early "cost savings" push by conservative legislators is a portion of the current contrived issue with the USPS ongoing budgetary concerns. Surely if the Liar in Chief has some data that shows an immediate need to remove those post boxes just before this election, he should show it.
Meanwhile, no one in a position of authority has a reasonable answer as to why the capacity of the service has been deeply damaged in such short order.
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2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:
Sorry, I just assumed you were quoting/speaking to me, thanks for clarifing. I totally agree that the post office should be providing the services you state. I also have elderly relatives who depend on that.
Mail boxes have been removed in my area long before now (years ago). When I asked at the PO they said it was bc of vandals and also cost effective measures bc not too many people were using those boxes anymore. So, on the one hand people cant say Trump should be holding the PO accountable and then say he shouldn't be removing mailboxes etc (which is a cost effective measure), cant have it both ways. I think Trumps opponents (the media and Dems) just found something else with which to continue their rants.
Thank you for your gracious response! I really appreciate it. BUT...
I cannot agree with what seems to me like an attack on our post office.
The Post Office is the oldest federal agency in America, and the only one explicitly authorized in the Constitution. Our first Postmaster General was Benjamin Franklin. The United States could not function without the USPS.
In 2006 Congress and the president passed the “Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act” requiring the agency to pre-fund its retiree health benefits over the next 75 years, and immediately destroyed it’s budget by requiring the USPS to put money away for future employees who haven’t even been born. https://about.usps.com/publications/pub100.pdf
Due to COVID-19 the usual mail volume decreased making their funding worse. The increase in on line ordering helped some, but not enough.
This administration is making the problems worse. Congress authorized USPS to borrow $10 billion as part of a coronavirus relief package, but Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is refusing to hand over the money until it turns over much of its operations to him.
Newly appointed Postmaster General DeJoy has limited overtime, instructed mail carriers to leave mail behind that will slow down their delivery routes, and required that they park no more than four times along their delivery routes. President Trump has demanded the post office charge four times as much for packages.
Trump's admission of manipulation of votes which he believes are not in his favor is cause for revolution in my book. We have already had to deal with Hitler-Lite (people who don't agree with him are labeled "defective") but now he crosses another boundary much closer to the right end of the fascist continuum. This is extra-ordinarily undemocratic and I'm understating. Puh-leez with the excuses that the Post Office is wasting our money and this is a cost-control measure. Trump himself admits that he will never permit mail-in voting and he will do what it takes. How is getting rid of sorting machines going to make it more efficient? That's going back in time....to a far back time where Trump wants to take us. The Republican party has fallen so far - imagine what Eisenhower would have thought of this petty Caligula. Daisy4, I don't know how old you are but the Republican Party used to be filled with decent people. What is happening now is a homage to dictators. Trump votes absentee. Why can't the rest of us do the same thing with a modicrum of trust that our ballot will ever reach the old ladies who count absentee ballots (that would be ME).
Daisy4, I don't know how old you are but the Republican Party used to be filled with decent people. What is happening now is a homage to dictators. Trump votes absentee. Why can't the rest of us do the same thing with amodicrum of trust that our ballot will ever reach the old ladies who count absentee ballots (that would be ME).
LOL, yes I am old enough to remember. And believe me I am not happy with either party right now. I don't know how we managed to get so far off tract. As I said Trump is not my all time favorite while at the same time he is not the evil villain some make him out to be. Biden also has serious issues beyond the decreased cognitive abilities (hx of corruption, plagiarism which got him disqualified last time or was it the time before, nepotism re: his son Hunter, racism etc). Its a toss up so I will vote for who I think is better for the country (ie policies etc). The far left agenda IMO is not gonna help/not good for the country.
Not sure what to think about this post office situation but either way Trump is not against absentee voting, anyone can still request to vote by mail and get a mail in ballot, he (and others) are against across the board voting by mail where the ballots are just sent out to anyone and everyone.
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2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:
LOL, yes I am old enough to remember. And believe me I am not happy with either party right now. I don't know how we managed to get so far off tract. As I said Trump is not my all time favorite while at the same time he is not the evil villain some make him out to be. Biden also has serious issues beyond the decreased cognitive abilities (hx of corruption, plagiarism which got him disqualified last time or was it the time before, nepotism re: his son Hunter, racism etc). Its a toss up so I will vote for who I think is better for the country (ie policies etc). The far left agenda IMO is not gonna help/not good for the country.
Not sure what to think about this post office situation but either way Trump is not against absentee voting, anyone can still request to vote by mail and get a mail in ballot, he (and others) are against across the board voting by mail where the ballots are just sent out to anyone and everyone.
Bold mine...
Tell me where that happens. Sending applications for a mailed ballot to widespread addresses is not the same as mailing ballots, although Trump conflates them intentionally for affect.
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I have NO problems with Post Office modernization --- just not in the beginning of a Pandemic, increased mail shipments due to buying online instead of visiting stores, effect on struggling small business AND prior to an ELECTION where the current President is saying voting by mail is fraudulent, tweeting and retweeting about massive fraud and rigged elections with scant evidence.
In 2019, PA expanded voting by mail -no excuse needed. Due to coronavirus, secure voting drop boxes being in installed. So.....
Trump campaign sues 67 Pa. counties, state over mail-in ballots 7/30/2020
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In a lawsuit filed this week in the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign and other Republican plaintiffs claim that the “single greatest threat to free and fair elections" is "unmonitored" mail-in voting, which they say "[undermines] ballot security.
Joe Biden’s June 23 remarks that President Donald Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots” have been confirmed — by the president himself.
In an Aug. 13 interview, Trump admitted that he opposes a coronavirus pandemic relief bill crafted by the House Democrats because it includes funding for the U.S. Postal Service and state election officials — money that Trump said is needed to allow the Postal Service to handle an expected surge in mail-in voting.
For an update, see our story,
“Trump Proves Biden Right on USPS Funding, Mail-In Ballots.”
Trump aides exploring executive actions to curb voting by mail ...
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Trump’s campaign and the Republican Party have taken to the courts dozens to challenge voting rules. Trump's aides are pondering possible executive actions.
Current US Government info: Coronavirus and Voting by Mail-In Absentee Ballot
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States are making it easier for citizens to vote absentee by mail this year due to the coronavirus. Every state’s election rules are different. And each state has its own rules for mail-in absentee voting. Many are still in the process of deciding how they will handle voting during the pandemic. Visit your state election office website to find out if you can vote by mail. Can I Vote https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote/absentee-early-voting takes you right to your state's absentee voting page. https://www.usa.gov/absentee-voting
Just another TRUMP lawsuit and dirty tricks meant to get his own way and not in the best interest of the country at this time.
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My beloved uncle joined the United States Marine Corps in 1940. He served in Iceland, New Zealand, Guadalcanal, Bougainville Island and Guam.
Returning home he ran a successful business and raised six kids, put them all through college. The four boys achieved Eagle Scout. We were blessed that he lived to be 94 due to the excellent care he received at the Oklahoma City VA hospital and clinics. He would discuss with me his medications that were delivered on time each month for almost forty years.
Now VA patients who live in the country as we did may lose their very lives after fighting for our lives and freedom.
How dare anyone NOT insist the Post office perform their Constitutional obligation to provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and to render postal services to all communities?