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Does the hospital where you are employed print "BSN" on your name badge if you have a bachelors in nursing? The hospital I am employed at will only print RN and not BSN...I know it sounds petty...However, if I am working my tail off for the BSN..I want it printed bc I want to be darn proud of that! They say they don't want to offend the other nurses or belittle them??? I say "you want the BSN..go get it! They pay for it all anyways!"
I work at a local hospital as an intern while I am finishing my RN training. I am getting them to pay for the ADN classes and will have them pick up the tab for BSN as well. They pay 100% for both degrees as long as you sign a contract with them. If the BSN program is good enough for them to pay 100% tuition costs..why isn't it good enough to print it on your name badge? Do they not want to promote BSN? I think it is total crap!
I second that. Gee, patients on our floor see someone wearing scrubs and think it's a nurse. I don't see a point in having your credentials on your badge, IMO. (I have my BscN also my BscPharm)...it is still a very volatile topic on our unit and that would just fan the flames :angryfire especially with some of our more *mature* staff. If you were a NP, absolutely it should be on your badge, because that does differentiate a lot! I think Diploma nurses work their butts off in school, too, no?The general public doesn't know the difference. To them, a nurse is a nurse is a nurse. Heck, some even think PCTs are nurses - and that's clearly printed on their name badges.
I second that. Gee, patients on our floor see someone wearing scrubs and think it's a nurse. I don't see a point in having your credentials on your badge, IMO. (I have my BscN also my BscPharm)...it is still a very volatile topic on our unit and that would just fan the flames :angryfire especially with some of our more *mature* staff. If you were a NP, absolutely it should be on your badge, because that does differentiate a lot! I think Diploma nurses work their butts off in school, too, no?
I don't believe there are many diploma schools in the US anymore.
But yes they did work hard for and got, a good education.
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Oh dear, sorry, but I guess you haven't gone through menopause yet.
I could never wear a lab coat.. And personally I think a lab coat is more snutty than a badge.
I think this discussion started with staff nurses. No time for a lab coat.
I won't deny you wearing one if you like them.
:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire That isn't anger it's hot flashes...
I wasn't suggesting that everyone wear a lab coat. A scrub jacket can be embroidered, so can a regular short sleeved scrub top. I was just suggesting an alternative to the badge for someone who is proud of their credentials.
I am required to wear a lab coat by the dictates of my job. I hope that others don't think I do it to be snotty. Oh, and by the way, my lab coat has short sleeves because I am completely menopausal!!!:angryfire flash flash flash
I'm not trying to start a flame war BUT....I really think BSN nurses who "gloat" about their degrees really need to get off of their high horses. Nursing is one the VERY FEW areas where a Bachelor's degree is even acknowledged. (As a matter of fact, I can't even think of another area right now.) For the vast majority of disciplines, it doesn't matter what your Bachelor's degree is in...what counts is Master's degree onward. I have an ADN. But I also have a BA and an MSPH. My hospital prints BSN, but won't print my MSPH. :smackingf I don't get that.
Anyway, be proud of your degree, but as a staff nurse, at the end of the day, no one really cares.
IMHO.
Dawn
Very well said Linda! I couldn't agree more. I am a BSN and my hospital does not allow BSN on nametags. They used to, but families requested that the patients be cared for by a BSN instead of an ADN. Perhaps this should inspire more to go back to school!! The administration is sending the WRONG message here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You all must have nurses to spare because we are so short that patients are happy to have one tend to them. On our *entire* LBRP unit we have 79 staff and 14 have their Bachelors. We would be running our *ss off if people requested care by a BSN only. Our staff are all competent individuals. We have RN's that were trained "by the nuns" (their words!), have worked for 30plus years, and, trust me, in a code, I want them there!! Experience says a lot.
'Nuff said, this is a hotly contested issue.
Jen BscPharm, BscN
I wish i could go straight to it and get a BSN but its just not an option until after i earn my ADN but im gonna be proud of it regardless i might not have the education you get with a BSN but i will be a d*** good nurse thats what is most important to me
Well said. THAT is how it should be. Good luck to you.:)
Very well said Linda! I couldn't agree more. I am a BSN and my hospital does not allow BSN on nametags. They used to, but families requested that the patients be cared for by a BSN instead of an ADN. Perhaps this should inspire more to go back to school!! The administration is sending the WRONG message here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And how many more patients would request BSNs if the title was on everyones nametag? Of course patients would want the nurses with the higher academic credentials, because the public knows the value of an education, as do most prople. Everyone, of course, except nurses. The public knows that increased academic preparation usually translates into a better work product. How many times have we heard on this listserve, "my patients don't ask what my degree is. Could it be because they just don't know that nurses can earn a BSN four year college degree? Of course the Diplomas and ADNs don't want to be told that so and so doesn't want you as their nurse becasue you don't have a BSN. And the hosptial certainly doesn't want the pubic to be educated about this and start asking for a BSN to provide their care. That would put worth on the BSN. To attract more BSNs, and keep up with "customer demand", they would have to preferentially hire more nurses with BSNs or "grow their own" by providing an on site BSN program, as many hosptials have, or offer tuition reimbursement to help nurses earn it. They would have to offer differentials to RNs that have BSNs in order to keep them, That, of course would hurt their bottom line. I have said this for years. It is all about money and control.
This is the psychology behind the lack of reward for a BSN. Between the hosptal administration, and the Diplomas and ADNs, we don't stand a chance.
You know in the active duty military all RNs have their BSNs in order to commission. The reserve take ADNs and Diplomas. If they commissioned with less than a BSN, and had a different four year degree, they would have difficulty making rank and be able to stay in the active duty military. You have to make rank in the military to be able to stay in.
RNs, are all officers. LPNs by the way, along with lab and X-Ray Techs, RTs, are enlisted. The fact is, that in this world, those with FOUR YEAR COLLEGE DEGREES ARE OFFICERS, AND THE LOWER EDUCATED, WITHOUT AT LEAST A FOUR YEAR COLLEGE DEGREE, ARE ENLISTED. That is the way the world works. I don't make the rules. Nurses have bucked the rules for years, and we are paying the price in pay, respect, and being replaced by lesser skilled individuals, who, for all of our whining, about lesser educated caregivers, reality is that they are really not that far behind us educationally. They probably have HS diploma. Well, LPNs only have a one year post HS education. And ADNS, two years. PHYSICAL THERAPY ASSISTANTS have at two- year Associates Degree as entry into practice. Keep whining. Just becaue, wiht prerequiaites, it may have taken you longer to complete the LPN, or ADN, it is still considered a two year degree program. That is how long it scheduled/designed to take.
RNs need to understand that they are OFFICERS. Educate your self like one.
Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Spokane, Washington
Well can someone explain to me what the difference is in "NURSING" education is between a BSN and an ADN? Because the only difference that i could find is that you take more general education courses. Do BSN's take a different liscensure(sp) exam or something? If i earned a BSN degree i would want to flaunt it to because id be proud same with an ADN, LPN, Or Diploma, so i see what you saying about being proud of your earned degree.But When people go to the hospital i don't think they are thinking "gee i hope she/he has a BSN" Most people don't even ask, they just let the trained professional take care of them.Its not fair to say That people would pick a BSN over an ADN . If its because BSN have more education wouldnt it be better than to have a diploma nurse because from what i have seen and heard they are ones who get the most training clinical wise. Bottom line is if i was in the hospital i would not care what the nurses education backround was as long as they are properly trained to take care of me as a patient
You are absolutely correct..it is the care they receive that is most important..not the degree held by the care provider. I see what you guys are saying. Well while we are on the subject...do your hospitals offer any extra pay for holding a BSN...I think it is few and far between to be honest..atleast in Ohio.
it's NOT about the money. just like many lawsuit!
it's about recognition and we should applaud those who pursue more education!
until nurses 'get it' we are our own worse enemies.
nurse_clown
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when i was a student, there were a few rn's who had bscn on their badges. where i work now, the hospital doesn't put bscn on their badges. it's just rn or rpn. one of the nurses puts the initials when she signs and another one just puts rn. and to be honest, there is a huge difference in the patient care between them both.
but also when it comes down to it, on my shift, i'm usually left in charge of the bscn's anyway. personally, i think school is hard. around here, the bscn's have different roles. they work in public health, child welfare, community health and management. that's good for me. i don't have to do much thinking about politics and stats. i just like working. thinking hurts my brain!
but i wondered about that myself.
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