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Does the hospital where you are employed print "BSN" on your name badge if you have a bachelors in nursing? The hospital I am employed at will only print RN and not BSN...I know it sounds petty...However, if I am working my tail off for the BSN..I want it printed bc I want to be darn proud of that! They say they don't want to offend the other nurses or belittle them??? I say "you want the BSN..go get it! They pay for it all anyways!"
I work at a local hospital as an intern while I am finishing my RN training. I am getting them to pay for the ADN classes and will have them pick up the tab for BSN as well. They pay 100% for both degrees as long as you sign a contract with them. If the BSN program is good enough for them to pay 100% tuition costs..why isn't it good enough to print it on your name badge? Do they not want to promote BSN? I think it is total crap!
some of those meetings have all mbas sitting there, and they do NOT take the needs of the staff seriously bc we can not qualify and quantify what we do in a way that they can grasp.
That is so not remotely nursing-specific. There isn't an MBA out there who considers anyone but himself as necessary. I've seen it time and time again.
Seriously, I have a lot of credits. There's no more science - maybe a chemistry - and lots of leadership and theory. Please. Now, I'm going to do the BSN, but not because I think for a moment that it's going to teach me anything useful.
I frankly think that a lot of NURSES feel "less-than." No one makes me feel inferior or unqualified because I don't have enough letters after my name, nor do they impress me with theirs.
this debate just makes me nuts. adn's work hard for their degree and bsn's work hard for their degree. i have my bsn. i am proud of my degree, i worked hard to earn it.
if there were some vast difference in the education of a bsn vs an adn regarding clinical education the two would not take the same licensing exam. but they do. the difference between the two are philosophy classes and classes about the "theory of caring" and other such things. a friend at work who has her adn and is in school to complete her bsn told me that she was surprised to find out that the classes she was required had almost nothing to do with nursing.
a bsn does have more formal education than an adn. for those of you who think that reading words in books matters more than clinical experience should ask your patients how they feel on the subject. i just wish that everyone was able to respect each other for their own accomplishments.
the difference between the two are philosophy classes and classes about the "theory of caring" and other such things.
I just love how people put down a BSN like it just "two" extra classes and essentially a few fluffy courses - nothing really substantial.
I often wonder then, if a BSN degree is so insignificant as far as amount of work, why doesn't everyone get a BSN then? I mean, really, if it's just TWO extra classes?
why do bsns need adns and diploma nurses permission to put thier degree on their nametag? hospital administration doesn't want patients to know that nurses are educated. we would have more worth in the workplace and the bargaining table, wouldn't we? what are the adns and diploma nurses afraid of? that the patients would start to request only bsns as their nurses?
i am an rn, adn currently in bsn completion program- and i am not 'un-educated' because i do not have my bsn. i am going to school and working full time for my bachelor's degree not because of what other people in the hospital or john public thinks of me, but because it is a personal goal of mine. the fact of the matter is, you can become a nurse and recieve a license without having a bsn, and as long as the law is that way, there will be nurses who choose to become lpns and rn, adns and stay that way for their own personal reasons. and both groups are valued members of the nursing team.
i work at a hospital that employs team nursing. it would not be able to function if every patient refused an lpn's care or an rn, adn's care so they could be cared for by a rn,bsn. my bsn courses do not prepare me better for bedside nursing than my adn courses did
they are more along the lines of leadership/management/research. all of which are good things, especially if you have the desire to get away from bedside nursing. but they are not necessary to be a good nurse. if they were, the bon would require it.
as far as the badges go, i think degrees pertinent to your position at the hospital are things to be proud of and should be listed on the badges. i am proud of my coworkers that have earned their bsn or msn degrees! they have worked hard.
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I just love how people put down a BSN like it just "two" extra classes and essentially a few fluffy courses - nothing really substantial.I often wonder then, if a BSN degree is so insignificant as far as amount of work, why doesn't everyone get a BSN then? I mean, really, if it's just TWO extra classes?
If universities charged the same amount as CC and diploma schools I think more people would. Most people I know that do the bridge thing, or choose not to go further do so because of the cost of the courses.
I just love how people put down a BSN like it just "two" extra classes and essentially a few fluffy courses - nothing really substantial.I often wonder then, if a BSN degree is so insignificant as far as amount of work, why doesn't everyone get a BSN then? I mean, really, if it's just TWO extra classes?
You went and did it, didntcha???
I don't care what another person wants on their name badge. BSN? ADN? MSN? It's all good.
If they stayed up late nights studying, gave up food and nourishment, gained weight and lost hair, neglected children, spouses, other family members, pets and friends, borrowed money to pay for overpriced books, undercooked cafeteria food and overly sensitive nursing professors, Heck, THEY EARNED IT!
I just love how people put down a BSN like it just "two" extra classes and essentially a few fluffy courses - nothing really substantial.I often wonder then, if a BSN degree is so insignificant as far as amount of work, why doesn't everyone get a BSN then? I mean, really, if it's just TWO extra classes?
Quite honestly, I lack an algebra course, history and government class from pursuing the Bachelor's route. These extra courses require more time and more money. For those of us who are going into nursing later in our lives, the ADN route is more practical. The value for me in this line of work comes not from my education but when a patient or their loved one thanks me for doing a great job. That's when I feel the most validated. I don't need anybody's approval for the educational path that I chose. That is just plain silly. My hat is off to those who have been able to obtain their ADN,BSN, MSN, PhD, and the like. I believe that no matter the education, we share a common thread, we all chose to be a nurse because of our love and compassion for people, and for the love of the profession. Let's face it, when you are up to your eyes in bodily fluids, it really doesn't matter WHAT kind of degree you have!!
All other professions value education. Nurses, on the other hand, need to validate their self worth and self importance by denigrating those of us who have put have put forth the effort to earn a BSN. No one handed me a degree.
The letters after your name don't necessarily mean knowledge, they mean the work put forth to gain the degree. There are experienced LPNs that know more than I do. But the fact remains, I went to more school than they did. If they want a BSN, they are welcome to pursue that. Will it cost them money and time and is that hard to do when you have three kids to support? Yes. Which is why it's something that I'm proud of, because even though it was hard, I got it. Does it necessarily make me a better nurse than random LPN or RN? No. But I'm a better nurse than *I* would be if I'd gone the ADN or LPN route. I've yet to meet a nurse that furthered her education to get another degree and didn't learn anything. So adding those letters will make you a better nurse than you were before. Sure, you've always been better than me, but it's not about competition. It's about recognition of that individual's efforts to improve themselves.
Furthering my education does not negate your skills or knowledge. It just increases mine.
Even with my "BSN" many times I have asked questions and needed help from those much more experienced nurses without a "BSN"......more than I can count. I think it should not be an issue unless it is for the purpose of management. We do not have titles other than "RN" on our badges unless you are supervisor. Just my own humble opinion:mad:
I just love how people put down a BSN like it just "two" extra classes and essentially a few fluffy courses - nothing really substantial.I often wonder then, if a BSN degree is so insignificant as far as amount of work, why doesn't everyone get a BSN then? I mean, really, if it's just TWO extra classes?
Yea I hear you loud and clear! A few extra classes my butt! At my school it is a horrible amount of extra classes past ADN..just BSN courses alone account for an extra 10-12 classes..plus a lot more gep classes like ethics, englishes, etc.
stn2003, RN
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