This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

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Crusades said:

Parts of the constitution like the 2nd amendment?  Don't dems want to disarm citizens? Sounds Nazi to me. No wonder the squad love gun restrictions. 

No Democrats don't want to disarm Americans.  Democrats want the necessary militias to be well regulated so that the members aren't killing their neighbors with the arms they bear.  

No wonder you are so confused about issues with all of that spin. 

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Crusades said:

How many are those charges "insurrection "? 

You have called him guilty if insurrection many times and apparently to you it's clear cut  so why has he not been charged with insurrection ?  

Perhaps it's your media and feelings direction your thoughts? 

Right. 

Only cult members care that Trump isn't charged specifically with "insurrection", it reflects their emotional investment in maintaining his innocence.  It's like their need to insist that he isn't guilty of rape only civilly liable for sexual abuse.  

You are in a cult.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Right. 

Only cult members care that Trump isn't charged specifically with "insurrection", it reflects their emotional investment in maintaining his innocence.  It's like their need to insist that he isn't guilty of rape only civilly liable for sexual abuse.  

You are in a cult.  

No. I'm just wondering if it's so super obvious and you have stated time and again, again and again that he is guilty of insurrection. Perhaps your cult has convinced you in the absence of facts and evidence? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

No Democrats don't want to disarm Americans.  Democrats want the necessary militias to be well regulated so that the members aren't killing their neighbors with the arms they bear.  

No wonder you are so confused about issues with all of that spin. 

A "well regulated millitia" that the government strictly controls at a federal level. Sound totally not like tyranny or fascists.  

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Crusades said:

I would agree Trump was careless with his words. However I think he was just as surprised with the few thousand that got out of hand. 

I'm confused with the statement that "he convinced some people he was the only true president". I've heard allot of "the election was rigged" but not blatant believe thatTrump was the actual president even after Joe was sworn in. Perhaps I'm not exposed to my cult enough? Must have missed the MAGA cult sermon that day. 

Don't tell my Devine leader. 

I've made it clear I will vote Trump. If he wins hopefully this will provide a much needed reflection in our political parties. The "MAGA" (can't believe I'm using this ridiculous made up name) will be content in their guy and the Democrat party can relect on their extreem grievance and "woke" radical agenda and we can all go back to somewhat normal. 

I know someone will suggest Trump will become a dictator and "completely overthrow the constitution toal Hitler man.....bla bla bla". That's just ridiculous actual cult like beliefs.  

You think that Trump was surprised by the events of 010621 because of what evidence?  He was surprised so he just waited around for over an hour and didn't say anything to the mob waving his flag while attacking Capitol pill police? You think it so it must be true regardless of what members of Trump's family and staff said under oath? That's evidence that you are in a cult.  

Yes, you are fundamentally confused about the events leading up to and including January 6th.  That is expected for a cult member. 

It's funny that you throw around the right wing made up idea of TDS but seem troubled by the right wing phrase Make America Great Again that Trump celebrates.  It would be so much easier for cult members if Trump didn't say things about being a dictator or about terminating the constitution or didn't publicly muse about the USA having a president for life, wouldn't it?  It doesn't seem like Trump is trying to make it easy for his cult members to defend him in social media.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

You think that Trump was surprised by the events of 010621 because of what evidence?  He was surprised so he just waited around for over an hour and didn't say anything to the mob waving his flag while attacking Capitol pill police? You think it so it must be true regardless of what members of Trump's family am has staff said under oath? That's evidence that you are in a cult.  

Yes, you are fundamentally confused about the events leading up to and including January 6th.  That is expected for a cult member. 

It's funny that you throw around the right wing made up idea of TDS but seem troubled by the right wing phrase Make America Great Again that Trump celebrates.  It would be so much easier for cult members if Trump didn't say things about being a dictator or about terminating the constitution or didn't publicly muse about the USA having a president for life, wouldn't it?  It doesn't seem like Trump is trying to make it easy for his cult members to defend him in social media.  

Let's look at it like this. .. 

How long did it take Biden to "condem antisemitism"?  He has yet to explicitly condem terrorist sympathizers in his own party. So there's that. 

Yes. Repetitively calling me a cult member really makes you credible. 

Thinking Trump would actually try and become a dictator is something a cult member told by his extremist leaders and media would spout and believe.  While at the sametime accusing everyone else of the samething. 

Yeah. He said it to troll irrational far left extremist. It's evident that it had the effect was achieved. He loves pointing out left hysteria and fantastical beliefs. LOL

 

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Crusades said:

I would agree Trump was careless with his words. However I think he was just as surprised with the few thousand that got out of hand. 

I'm confused with the statement that "he convinced some people he was the only true president". I've heard allot of "the election was rigged" but not blatant believe thatTrump was the actual president even after Joe was sworn in. Perhaps I'm not exposed to my cult enough? Must have missed the MAGA cult sermon that day. 

Don't tell my Devine leader. 

I've made it clear I will vote Trump. If he wins hopefully this will provide a much needed reflection in our political parties. The "MAGA" (can't believe I'm using this ridiculous made up name) will be content in their guy and the Democrat party can relect on their extreem grievance and "woke" radical agenda and we can all go back to somewhat normal. 

I know someone will suggest Trump will become a dictator and "completely overthrow the constitution toal Hitler man.....bla bla bla". That's just ridiculous actual cult like beliefs.  

You quoted me and I'm going to just ignore this snarky post and go with the idea that you're intelligent enough to know what I meant.  

This forum had many discussions about that day and as I indicated,  I'm not going to rehash what I've already said.  

 

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Tweety said:

You quoted me and I'm going to just ignore this snarky post and go with the idea that you're intelligent enough to know what I meant.  

This forum had many discussions about that day and as I indicated,  I'm not going to rehash what I've already said.  

 

No no. I didn't intend it to be snarky to you. Not at all. 

My snark is not directed to you ever. My apologies if I sounded this way. 

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Crusades said:

Let's look at it like this. .. 

How long did it take Biden to "condem antisemitism"?  He has yet to explicitly condem terrorist sympathizers in his own party. So there's that. 

 

I think one issue is that perhaps to Biden, or myself and I can only speak for myself, the anti-Israel protests are not seen by me to be a group of people that need to be condemned for their antisemitism or are terrorist sympathizers.  

Do you have any specific examples of when Biden took his time to condemn members of his own party?

I want an immediate cease-fire and an end of Israel terrorizing the Palestine people.  Does that make me antisemitic or a terrorist sympathizer that needs condemnation?

Are there pro-terrorist sympathizers at those protests of course there are.  Just like there were militia at the "peaceful protest" on January 6th.  And just like people aren't condemning the entirety of the January 6th protest, perhaps there is no need to condemn pro-Palestine protests either. 

He does condemn antisemitism when it needs to be condemned, most recently two days ago.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4722168-biden-antisemitism-condemned-new-york/

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Crusades said:

A "well regulated millitia" that the government strictly controls at a federal level. Sound totally not like tyranny or fascists.  

Keep making stuff up, the practice is bound to make you better at it.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Keep making stuff up, the practice is bound to make you better at it.  

Well repetition hasn't made you more credible or better. So I'll pass on ypur suggestion. 

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Tweety said:

I think one issue is that perhaps to Biden, or myself and I can only speak for myself, the anti-Israel protests are not seen by me to be a group of people that need to be condemned for their antisemitism or are terrorist sympathizers.  

Do you have any specific examples of when Biden took his time to condemn members of his own party?

I want an immediate cease-fire and an end of Israel terrorizing the Palestine people.  Does that make me antisemitic or a terrorist sympathizer that needs condemnation?

Are there pro-terrorist sympathizers at those protests of course there are.  Just like there were militia at the "peaceful protest" on January 6th.  And just like people aren't condemning the entirety of the January 6th protest, perhaps there is no need to condemn pro-Palestine protests either. 

He does condemn antisemitism when it needs to be condemned, most recently two days ago.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4722168-biden-antisemitism-condemned-new-york/

I do not want war ever. I do not want Palestine civilians to be killed and visa versa. I do not believe reporting on either side of that. 

Pretty sure there is few and far between members on here that do not condemning the entirety of Jan 6 protest. One vocal member literally says that anyone who votes for Trump is a nazi, rapist liar........ bla bla. 

I do call out terrorist sympathizers when due. Most of these palastine protesters probably do not outright support Hamas but many will not condem Hamas either. There is a loud group of radicals in these protest that actually claim Hamas are "freedom fighters". That's a very dangerous movement.  

I do hold all politicians to call out and condem these terrorist groups and ideology. As we can use Jan. 6 as an example. It's easy to work people up into a frenzy by our words and inactions. 

Jan.6 was called out and condemned by several Republicans. I do not see the same response from democrats condemning the terrorist sympathizing ideology. 

 

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