Things nurse students complain about

[MarkMyWords]

On another thread, nurses posted all the supposedly stupid complaints that patients express and your reactions. Well, nurse students complain a lot, too, especially in general education courses. Nurses and nursing students.   The answers.

I have no control over the time of class, its duration or classroom.

I did not choose the text or the material to be covered. It is from the Department. The readings are difficult but it's only a few pages! It is not my fault that the author is hard reading. They were not writing for students.

 Expect to stay for the whole time, not leave early. Department rule. (All students want to go home early.) 

Just because you want an A, does not mean you will get it. Earn it, don't feel entitled.

That the material is not relevant to nursing is beyond my control. It is not intended to. University rule.

You don't know more about teaching and lesson plans than I do.

At least do honest work without plagiarizing from the internet entirely or in part.

     

[sleepwalker, MSN, NP]

ummm...OK?? ?

[Blatant Shannon]

Sounds like you need to vent. School is hard. Take a deep breath, and carry on. 

[summertx]

On 7/23/2021 at 10:57 AM, Mywords1 said:

On another thread, nurses posted all the supposedly stupid complaints that patients express and your reactions. Well, nurse students complain a lot, too, especially in general education courses. Nurses and nursing students.   The answers.

I have no control over the time of class, its duration or classroom.

I did not choose the text or the material to be covered. It is from the Department. The readings are difficult but it's only a few pages! It is not my fault that the author is hard reading. They were not writing for students.

 Expect to stay for the whole time, not leave early. Department rule. (All students want to go home early.) 

Just because you want an A, does not mean you will get it. Earn it, don't feel entitled.

That the material is not relevant to nursing is beyond my control. It is not intended to. University rule.

You don't know more about teaching and lesson plans than I do.

At least do honest work without plagiarizing from the internet entirely or in part.

     

But don't you have to do your part too? They're giving you feedback, they're paying for their education. What are you doing as the instructor to make their learning better, instead of them sitting for long hours? Do you like to sit for long hours? I doubt it. You are saying it's university rule to keep them there for a certain amount of time, fine, but it's not OK to make them 'sit'. 

[FiremedicMike, BSN, RN, EMT-P]

If you know the text is harder to understand than it needs to be, then it’s your job to find a way to simplify it and explain it so that your students understand.  

If a piece of material seems irrelevant to nursing but is mandated material, it’s your job to find a way to make it relevant.

You don’t always know more about teaching and lesson plans than your students.  I have been involved in EMS education longer than many of my instructors have even been nurses.. 

I know you probably just needed to vent, but there’s a few things up there that I have experienced as a current nursing student (second career) that I hope you can change as you move forward in your career in nursing education. 

[Tegridy]

The good ole "this is the way we did it back in my day so it will continue" is a great way to lead to stagnant teaching methods and low classroom morale.

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

summertx said:

But don't you have to do your part too? They're giving you feedback, they're paying for their education. What are you doing as the instructor to make their learning better, instead of them sitting for long hours? Do you like to sit for long hours? I doubt it. You are saying it's university rule to keep them there for a certain amount of time, fine, but it's not OK to make them 'sit'. 

Would you be happier if students stood up in classes?  If you are unable to sit through a class, maybe you should be doing something else.  We all make sacrifices for an education.

[FiremedicMike, BSN, RN, EMT-P]

subee said:

Would you be happier if students stood up in classes?  If you are unable to sit through a class, maybe you should be doing something else.  We all make sacrifices for an education.

Right, because day to day nursing is pretty much sitting in a classroom for 4-6 hours at a time.

 

[sleepRN, ADN, BSN, RN]

They complain about EVERYTHING! haha...Dress code, tests, lectures, faculty, directors, classrooms, assignments, ATI, clinical location, class/clinical time, literally everything.

[Nurse SMS, MSN, RN]

FiremedicMike said:

Right, because day to day nursing is pretty much sitting in a classroom for 4-6 hours at a time.

 

With the exception of sim and lab, to be fair, the classroom environment was never intended to simulate a hospital, clinic or any other actual nursing environment. 

[FiremedicMike, BSN, RN, EMT-P]

Nurse SMS said:

With the exception of sim and lab, to be fair, the classroom environment was never intended to simulate a hospital, clinic or any other actual nursing environment. 

My statement was in direct response to a statement that someone who can't sit in a class shouldn't be a nurse.  Bedside nursing in modern times almost requires a certain amount of ADD mixed with OCD, personality traits that don't really thrive in a traditional classroom.
 

We know a hell of a lot more about how people learn today compared to when nursing education was developed, yet we continue to deliver it essentially the same.

[londonflo]

MarkMyWords said:

I did not choose the text or the material to be covered. It is from the Department.

I worked with someone who got a job at another nursing school (don't know if it was diploma or ADN), She was thrilled they gave her the lectures prepared for her to read. WOW!? Who would accept this. She was thrilled. She always at our school memorized her lectures so you could not ask questions ,