Along the lines of the first thread, "Things you would love to say to your nursing instructors" I thought this would be a great thread to start. I've since graduated LVN but there was one main thing I wanted to say to some students in my class.
Will you people in the back row please stop talking! I swear that today I can still hear their motormouths running! :chuckle
When I am in the RN bridge I will come back and post some more. I'm sure some of you have something to get off your chest. Come on and unload here! :)
"**** already and give other students a chance to answer the teacher. Oh, and quit asking questions about stuff we JUST covered just to make sure everyone knows how smart you are. You aren't smart. You are a pain in our azzes and no one likes you. Every time you open your mouth we ALL roll our eyes and groan or laugh at you. Then, when the instructor gives our class the option to move a test date because it conflicts with a test in another class, don't pipe up and say it isn't fair to you to change the date. You are one of 145 of us and the ONLY one that doesn't want the test moved. By not being a team player and doing something that benefits everyone, you have totally alienated yourself from the entire class."
WHEW! That felt good. There are 140 of us in our program and he is the only student that got mixed between the two groups of students so he has two classes that aren't what our group has. Clear as mud? One of our teachers offered to move a test date but it conflicted with an assignment (not a test mind you) in the other class. By not going with the consensus, we ended up having two tests in our two hardest classes on the same day which also happened to be the day after a very large validation check-off was due in our other class. He just made a bad week ever more difficult. We all pretty much hate this guy now. He is such an azz kisser too and even some of the teachers have now caught on to his crap. There is always ONE guy to make class miserable.
LOL! There are a couple students in my class who WILL NOT shut up about their personal ailments as well as their family member's.
The worst part is they will tell the same story in class OVER and OVER again. Then they will tell and retell the same story in Lab. Then they will tell and retell the same story in clinical wrapup meetings.
"HEY! We know your mom is nuts! We know your dad died of heart failure! We know your kid has allergies! We know your aunt went crazy when your dad was put on palliative care! We know you are pregnant and your ankles are swollen. Will you PLEASE at least tell new stories instead of repeating the same frigging ones!!!!"
I had some students sitting behind me and all they do is talk with each other and text. They are annoying and loud. ( They barely passed the class). So, the week of the finals my friends and I were studying and talking about school stuff and this girl shows up like a freak and says, "guys keep it down we are studying".....I just turned and said, really? It must hurt because that's how I felt the entire semester when you kept talking non stop and I couldn't listen to the professor. All of a sudden, she decided to study.
Do NOT wait until 5 minutes before the test to tell me you don't understand something MAJOR (like don't tell me you don't know what an ABG is when you're about to take a test on which you will be interpreting ABG results!!). I am NOT going to explain it to you. I already did my work, and I studied hard, and I REFUSE to stress myself out trying to rush and explain it to you. It's not my fault you couldn't figure out how to ask for help a week ago.
Don't leave your notes at home the day of the test and then stand over my shoulder and read mine while I'm reviewing for the test. GO AWAY!! YOU ARE INVADING MY PERSONAL BUBBLE!!
Don't sit there and witch and moan about getting a bad grade on your tests and then answer "I didn't have any time to read the stuff from the book. The teacher gives us way too much work. It's so unfair." That's a total load of bull crap!! You don't even have a job; you were hanging out with your friends and shopping every evening. I worked 5 days this week, and I still managed to read AND comprehend every assigned page in the textbook. Nursing school requires a freaking lot of hard work. If you don't like it, there's the door!!
Also, don't attempt to do the homework without reading or looking through your notes, and then call me and message me on Facebook whining that you can't figure out any of the questions (again, you DIDN'T even crack open the book). I really don't care!!
And then don't send me a bunch of frantic text messages at 11:55pm saying that you still don't have the homework done (which is due at midnight) and it's just too hard for you to figure out. What!?!?!?!?!? The homework has been up for over a week!! Why are you waiting until NOW to do it? This falls into the big fat category of "NOT MY PROBLEM."
Don't tell me that the teacher is wrong and you're right -- the hypoglossal nerve DOES NOT control heart rate!! It's not my fault you don't remember anything from A&P -- which was ONLY a year ago. BOO HOO!!!
I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD YOUR HAND ALL THE WAY THROUGH SCHOOL!! Stop bothering me and try to do something for yourself for once!! I have enough crap to deal with without people following me around like a lost puppy dog asking me a question every 3 seconds.
No, not every test question is going to be a word-for-word definition from the notes. That doesn't make it bad or wrong. It's called application and critical thinking -- GET USED TO IT!
Don't try to explain every single concept to me and then ask if you are understanding it right. If you don't know, then go look it up. GOOGLE IT, for goodness sake!
Don't leave class for 15 minutes to go get Chex Mix out of the vending machine and then ask me "Did I miss anything?" when you return. You missed a lot!! This is NURSING school!
If you are sitting and doodling hearts, flowers, and your boyfriend's name all over your patho and pharm notes, don't ask to see my notes when you miss something!! Don't tell me that you really were listening, because I know you weren't!!
Stop whining that you "can't retain any of this knowledge." Again, BOO HOO!!
Don't blame the teacher for your crappy grades! She is not unorganized, unprofessional, and lazy -- YOU ARE. If you at least attempted to put an ounce of effort into your schoolwork, you would see that!
Summer classes are NOT easy classes. If you didn't have the time to read 300+ pages per week, then you shouldn't have signed up for it!!
Don't raise your hand and tell the class that your grandma had every disease that we are studying. This isn't kindergarten and this isn't show-and-tell! I don't mind it when people who actually know what they are talking about contribute something worthwhile to the conversation, but for God's sake, don't raise your hand JUST to tell me your grandma had conjunctivitis and then waste precious lecture time.
Don't email the teacher and tell her you found all sorts of errors in the homework and that you would like her to recheck your answers just because you got a C. Funny, I got an A.
Stop talking smack about each other! I'm so sick of hearing my classmates gossip about each other. I can't wait to be graduated and never have to see you all ever again!
"**** already and give other students a chance to answer the teacher. Oh, and quit asking questions about stuff we JUST covered just to make sure everyone knows how smart you are. You aren't smart. You are a pain in our azzes and no one likes you. Every time you open your mouth we ALL roll our eyes and groan or laugh at you. Then, when the instructor gives our class the option to move a test date because it conflicts with a test in another class, don't pipe up and say it isn't fair to you to change the date. You are one of 145 of us and the ONLY one that doesn't want the test moved. By not being a team player and doing something that benefits everyone, you have totally alienated yourself from the entire class."
WHEW! That felt good. There are 140 of us in our program and he is the only student that got mixed between the two groups of students so he has two classes that aren't what our group has. Clear as mud? One of our teachers offered to move a test date but it conflicted with an assignment (not a test mind you) in the other class. By not going with the consensus, we ended up having two tests in our two hardest classes on the same day which also happened to be the day after a very large validation check-off was due in our other class. He just made a bad week ever more difficult. We all pretty much hate this guy now. He is such an azz kisser too and even some of the teachers have now caught on to his crap. There is always ONE guy to make class miserable.
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You just perfectly described one of my classmates. This person also thought that since they were repeating the class and "already knows all this" that they had to answer every question that was directed to the instructor.
This is off topic, and perhaps deserves another thread of its own, but I've been reading the vent comments here, and wonder just how on earth students conspire to cheat in nursing school? How is it even possible? And do they generally "succeed" at cheating (eg "get away with it"/make decent--and undeserved--grades?)
I'm a practicing nurse, and like to read these threads to remind myself of what it was like to be in school (it helps me put into perspective how far I've come and to remind myself of a student's perspective; I just can't figure out--based on my memories of exams and the kind of preparation that went into studying for one--how people can cheat on exams, unless they get their mitts on a test key, and even that would be hard to do, and an unreliable source of info, since teachers often change their tests and/or hand out different versions of the same test to prevent cheating.)
Specializes in med/surg/tele/neuro/rehab/corrections.
Woooooow! This thread has been very entertaining and also very useful to read! I'm starting nursing school next month and wanted to make sure what *NOT* to do.
Is cheating really SO common in nursing school? That really worries me! So, moral dilemma...do you report these people or just let karma take its place?
Also, it seems like it's pretty common for people to ask to copy study guides, homework, etc. What is a polite way to say no to them?
Yes it is an entertaining thread! It really has taken on a life of its own.
I just finished nursing school so I can answer a few of those questions you got :) Cheating is not common! Everyone knows the consequences of cheating and most don't dare. Also, our instructors used to tell us NOT TO CHEAT! They said that studies showed that if you say don't cheat then people don't cheat lol.
Most people feel it's best to mind your own business instead of reporting. Besides, I know of one couple in a class (not nursing) that were accused of cheating because a fellow student heard them talking during the test and they didn't cheat. I had someone cheat off of me and I was soooo angry. (it was one question) so glad that others helped me to keep my cool and no reporting
Study guides and homework are better done together or in a group! That's not cheating. Many others in your class will be getting information and completed study guides from students who were in the previous year. Just do your own work and don't worry about them. But completing a study guide in a group or broken up between a group of people is the best way to go.
We always compared answers in the morning to our homework assignments. That's not cheating either. You do your assignment anyway. Then I could explain to others why I got this answer to that question, where I found it in the book or many many times the answers were NOT in the textbook and we had to go elsewhere. You are there to learn from each other. So if someone got an even better answer than me I could add to my answer and learn from it. I would have gotten the same points anyway because the question was already answered.
Lastly Congratulations on starting nursing school! What a awesome experience it will be! :redbeathe
This is off topic, and perhaps deserves another thread of its own, but I've been reading the vent comments here, and wonder just how on earth students conspire to cheat in nursing school? How is it even possible? And do they generally "succeed" at cheating (eg "get away with it"/make decent--and undeserved--grades?)
I'm a practicing nurse, and like to read these threads to remind myself of what it was like to be in school (it helps me put into perspective how far I've come and to remind myself of a student's perspective; I just can't figure out--based on my memories of exams and the kind of preparation that went into studying for one--how people can cheat on exams, unless they get their mitts on a test key, and even that would be hard to do, and an unreliable source of info, since teachers often change their tests and/or hand out different versions of the same test to prevent cheating.)
I find this hard to believe too. In our program, it is almost impossible to cheat. The instructors change their tests around every semester, we are not allowed to have copies of the tests (we review them with the instructor in her office), I don't think there is a test bank that my instructor pulls from (she pulls a couple of questions from Saunders, Prentice, the book, etc), during tests we have to place ALL of our belongings up at the front of the class. We are not allowed to have jackets, hats, water bottles, backpacks, purses or ANYTHING but pencils and erasers at our desks with us. If we are wearing jackets, sweaters, etc, they make us take them off and place them at the front of the classroom. They give some of us assigned seating so we are not sitting next to our friends, etc. Our tests are a HUGE to-do!!! In fact, one person had their hands down in their lap during one of the tests and one of the proctors actually looked under the desk to make sure they weren't holding anything! I don't think there is anyway possible to cheat on a test in my program!!!!
Some people will do homework together but our homework isn't graded, unless it's a paper, it's more just for the students to learn from. If they don't do the homework it doesn't hurt anyone but themselves. I'm floored when I hear of talking, or worse, texting, during a nursing exam from people on this website. They won't be doing that during NCLEX!
I'm starting NS next month so these rants are from my pre-req's:
1. If you have your laptop during lecture and are click, click, clicking away we ALL know that you aren't taking notes. We can see your screen. You are paying a lot of money to sit in a room and play on facebook. Wow.
2. If you are more than 20 min late to lecture, please don't even bother coming. You are VERY irritating.
3. Just because you are a type 1 diabetic doesn't mean you are an expert on nutrition so please stop talking in class like you are. You know how I know this? I see the food you are eating DURING nutrition class and then hear you complain that you haven't taken your insulin today Please tell me you took this class as an elective and not as a requirement in the medical field.
4. To the two ladies that helped me survive Physiology. You guys were the only two people in the class to make an A. Well deserved and I am so proud of you guys:yeah:. I know I only made a B, and I know that you guys are proud of me too. We all know how hard we worked. You are going to make excellent nurses! I'm so sad that we are going to different NS, but I also know that we will keep in touch!
So, moral dilemma...do you report these people or just let karma take its place?
It really has taken on a life of its own. 
What a awesome experience it will be! :redbeathe
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"**** already and give other students a chance to answer the teacher. Oh, and quit asking questions about stuff we JUST covered just to make sure everyone knows how smart you are. You aren't smart. You are a pain in our azzes and no one likes you. Every time you open your mouth we ALL roll our eyes and groan or laugh at you. Then, when the instructor gives our class the option to move a test date because it conflicts with a test in another class, don't pipe up and say it isn't fair to you to change the date. You are one of 145 of us and the ONLY one that doesn't want the test moved. By not being a team player and doing something that benefits everyone, you have totally alienated yourself from the entire class."
WHEW! That felt good. There are 140 of us in our program and he is the only student that got mixed between the two groups of students so he has two classes that aren't what our group has. Clear as mud? One of our teachers offered to move a test date but it conflicted with an assignment (not a test mind you) in the other class. By not going with the consensus, we ended up having two tests in our two hardest classes on the same day which also happened to be the day after a very large validation check-off was due in our other class. He just made a bad week ever more difficult. We all pretty much hate this guy now. He is such an azz kisser too and even some of the teachers have now caught on to his crap. There is always ONE guy to make class miserable.
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