There is nothing that can fix this is there? (ok it's a rant)

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I use to work on an Alzheimers unit for two years as an aide before I started school. My average 12 hour shift consisted of:

-Having 10 residents

-6 needing to be woken up, dressed, and have basic hygeine performed (brushing teeth, hair brushing, etc)

-2 showers

-4 vital signs to obtain by 10am

-3 meal times where I along with another aide had to get half the unit into our diningroom (30 people), serve them, feed 4 of them (while watching the other 26 Alzheimers residents and trying to get them to focus on eating), escort them all out, collect plates and trays to put back onto dietary cart to wheel back to dietary

- Take 30 minute "shifts" with other CNA's where I had to stop my CNA duties to more or less "babysit" the activity aide while she did activities with 10-15 residents at a time because she could not be left alone with them because she was not certified.

-Walk several (2-10 depending on the day) on my residents for x amount of time because they were in wheelchairs and cannot walk on their own.

- Chart I/O's, ADL's on my 10 residents

All in all, I loved my job. As you can see I was really busy, so my days went super fast, and I got to spend a ton of time with people who truely needed me.

My problem is that the nurses on the unit generally did nothing. This is not true for all of them, but most of them did nothing. The shift started at 6am and ended at 6pm. My day started right at 6am, sometimes I'd come in 15 minutes early to get a jump start. The nurses, their job started around 6:45-7:15 am because the first hour they generally spent sitting at the nurses station drinking their coffee and talking to the other nurse. Breakfast was at 7:30am and the nurse was suppose to be in the dining room helping me and the other aide. Their job duties in the dining room were the same as ours, and legally they needed to be in there because if someone choked and they were not there they could lose their lisence. But instead they would start their morning pill pass around 7:15 am when they were done with their coffee and be in and out of the dining room passing medication instead of helping us. And I do know for a fact that their med passes were scheduled around the fact that they needed to be in the dining room when meals came. After breakfast, they resumed sitting on their behinds behind the nurses desk, but generally they had charts in their hands and were doing whatever they needed to do with the vitals that were due at 10am. Then they would start their med pass again... conviniently about 20 minutes before meal times so again they were not in there to help but to pass a medication. And by the way, that was against policy. You weren't suppose to pass medications out in the dining room. After lunch they resumed being on their behinds, and did a couple dressing changes and treatments if need be, which there weren't many on our unit anyway. They never put ointment on residents behinds because they assumed that I would do it. Legally, the ointments were medications so I could not do it and would not even though most aides would. I use to tell the nurses that all the time and remind them several times who needed it, sometimes they would get around to some of them. And when dinner came, you guessed it, med passing. That's just how it went.

My true problem here is why do these nurses not want to do their job? Why not do your med passes when you're suppose to so that you can have that little resident interaction at meal times? Don't you want to spend any time with your patients? How are you ever going to know if something is wrong, how are you going to know that the doctor should probably lower soandsos dose of blahblahblah because it's making her too lethargic at meal times and is compromising her nutritional status? Doctors are using you as their eyes and ears and I don't see how it's very effective when you're sitting behind the nurses station all day.

I tried to keep nurses as informed as I could as an aide and have even once been told "mind you're own business, I'm the nurse". Are you? Your title says so but are you really a nurse? (I was certainly thinking that but never said it).

I've told managers before and they've spoken to a few about it. It generally helps for about a week... suddenly the nurse is in the dining room, woah! Like I said, it lasts about a week and then it makes the nurse dislike you and complain about how you didn't clip soandso's finger nails to the unit manager (For one, soandso would punch me in the face if I tried so that's why I haven't and if you would have come to me and asked before running of to the unit manager I could have told you that :) ).

Oh well. This is clearly a rant. I just want to know how does this ever change? Have you ever worked in a nursing home as bad as what I've described and seen it slowly turn around? What did they do to make it better (besides fire the nurses, because I do think these nurses are good if they want to be it's just they can get away with not and they clearly think all their job requires is giving a medication)... blah

I'm done, thanks for listening.

Specializes in Geriatrics.
"As you can see I was really busy so my days went super fast, and I got to spend a ton of time with people who truely needed me. [/i']"

Apparently you weren't busy enough, if you had the time to monitor what the nurses were doing at any given time of day. :twocents:

Just because I am busy doesn't mean I am not around them. Some activities were held in a common area that could clearly be seen at the nurses station. The dining room was also in eye site. This unit was basically set up to where the nurses station can see where residents are if they are in common areas at all times. Thanks for answering my questions.:down:

I don't understand why people are being so defensive about this. Has nobody worked with a lazy person?!!!

Specializes in Geriatrics.
I don't understand why people are being so defensive about this. Has nobody worked with a lazy person?!!!

Apparently not? Or a guilty conscience for some of them? Who knows. I just wanted to know what could be done. Some people have helped me to think about the situation and what not, so I got something out of posting.:up:

Edit: It could also be because there are a lot of CNA's who run around whining all day about nurses and how CNA's work harder and yadda yadda. I've seen that. CNA'S bouncing between rooms while the LPN is working at the nurses station and the CNA is convinced the nurse is just a lazy sob and she should be fired! That CNA clearly has no idea what it is to be a nurse. I think people are just focusing on that and assuming that is the case instead of giving me facts based on the information I gave. It's kinda like NCLEX- they need to answer based on the information given. Instead, everyones just been adding to the scenerio because I must be wrong because I must have no clue. Lol. If they don't feel comfortable with admiting to the fact that there could be a lazy nurse out there taking advantage of an Alzheimers unit then they should answer the question hypothetically instead of just telling me how I probably have no clue.

This is am age-old complaint. I asked one of my RN's why she could not help to feed the pts. She told me, she could help me when her work was done. But legally I could not help her do her work. So true.

I am a CNA and I work with some of the best nurses ever BUT i work with a couple not so great ones also. I work the night shift so a lot of the nurses I work with are knocked out sleep during the shift. Thats a whole different issue. Anyway, they say nurses look out for nurses and this post clearly shows that. However, I am sure the possiblility that she works with a lazy nurse is valid. I am on the outside looking in being in nursing school and a CNA. So I have no idea exactly all the work that nurses do but in every career choice their are a few lazy ones.

Specializes in PACU, CARDIAC ICU, TRAUMA, SICU, LTC.

You may be "eating crow" someday real soon..........

Calling a nurse lazy is an unfair judgment. The time management of a nurse is individualized. Breaks are taken when there is time to, many times is not taken at all. Some CNA's resent the nurses for different reasons. It's a waste of time. Be the best at what you do and accept that life is not fair, especially in nursing.

edit: it could also be because there are a lot of cna's who run around whining all day about nurses and how cna's work harder and yadda yadda. i've seen that. cna's bouncing between rooms while the lpn is working at the nurses station and the cna is convinced the nurse is just a lazy sob and she should be fired! that cna clearly has no idea what it is to be a nurse. i think people are just focusing on that and assuming that is the case instead of giving me facts based on the information i gave. it's kinda like nclex- they need to answer based on the information given. instead, everyones just been adding to the scenerio because i must be wrong because i must have no clue. lol. if they don't feel comfortable with admiting to the fact that there could be a lazy nurse out there taking advantage of an alzheimers unit then they should answer the question hypothetically instead of just telling me how i probably have no clue.

:eek:hypothetically or not, from either perspective you should not remove a dressing or unna boot from a patient. you could cause harm and you would not want that. report what you see to your nurse. if nothing has been done by the end of the shift, be sure to mention it in your report to the oncoming shift so the patient will get the needed care. it is about the patient. it is your job to keep the nurse informed about the patient. if you feel the nurse is ignoring your reports and you have serious concerns then you should give your reports to her in writing. put the date, time, and the problem and sign it and give copies to her supervisor. i would suggest discussing the situation with the nurse first before coming to any conclusions. there may be a very good reason why the dressing or unna boot was not removed in the first place. you may feel you know better but unless you have that conversation with the nurse, you really don't know for sure... and yes, i have seen many lazy employees.

Specializes in pulm/cardiology pcu, surgical onc.

You will run into lazy nurses and cna's during your career. It's not your job to monitor them though. If your concerned than make management aware and let it go. You will make many enemies if you spend your time consumed with how your coworkers spend their time at work. No one can be perfect all the time and until you walk a day in the other's shoes I wouldn't cast judgements. There are worse things than browsing eBay (not that I condone it), my advice is to let it go and move on.

As I said before, can't fix lazy. But I did want to point that out, because I've been quilty of assuming someone was not busy myself. ;) I've also been accused of not having anything to do when I was trying to chart. And that was by the same person that was able to clock out on time while I was still charting and pulling in loose ends. So I've been on both ends. But it appears from your explanation that this in not the case.

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