Judges are now telling hospitals how to treat covid patients.
TLDR; A man was in the ICU for COVID. The wife asked the physicians to prescribe Ivermectin. They refused saying it wouldn't help and could interfere with treatment that does work. Wife went to a Dr associated with Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance who gave her a prescription for her husband. Hospital refused to administer it. She went to court and got a judge to force the hospital to administer it.
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Butler County Common Pleas Judge Gregory Howard ordered West Chester Hospital, part of the University of Cincinnati network, to treat Jeffrey Smith, 51, with Ivermectin. The order, filed Aug. 23, compels the hospital to provide Smith with 30mg of Ivermectin daily for three weeks.
I read that Friday was day 11, so the order was good for 14 days, which runs on Monday. The judge did state the hospital could remove the drug if it is clear it is causing him harm. The plaintiff contents the drugs are working and the hosptial says there is no real difference, though I believe the ICU doctor stated there could be some improvement. I saw the judge is looking over everything submitted and will make a ruling if the hospital will need to continue giving Mr. Smith the treatment or if the hospital can discontinue it.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
7 hours ago, RKM2021 said:
I read that Friday was day 11, so the order was good for 14 days, which runs on Monday. The judge did state the hospital could remove the drug if it is clear it is causing him harm. The plaintiff contents the drugs are working and the hosptial says there is no real difference, though I believe the ICU doctor stated there could be some improvement. I saw the judge is looking over everything submitted and will make a ruling if the hospital will need to continue giving Mr. Smith the treatment or if the hospital can discontinue it.
Your comment sounds like you are comfortable with this approach to pandemic healthcare.
Your comment sounds like you are comfortable with this approach to pandemic healthcare.
No, as you well know from my other statements, I have said over and over to you toomuchbaloney until I am blue in the face that I do NOT recommend taking the product. Someone mentioned they did not know what was really going on in the case, so I put out the facts I got from the case. NOT an opinion, just the facts, which we should all Care about... THE TRUTH
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
47 minutes ago, RKM2021 said:
No, as you well know from my other statements, I have said over and over to you toomuchbaloney until I am blue in the face that I do NOT recommend taking the product. Someone mentioned they did not know what was really going on in the case, so I put out the facts I got from the case. NOT an opinion, just the facts, which we should all Care about... THE TRUTH
Nevertheless, your comment about the judge ordering unproven care seems to suggest you think that's going well.
Nevertheless, your comment about the judge ordering unproven care seems to suggest you think that's going well.
There was no comment. What comment did I make in that post other than state where the case is? Please tell me, all of it was facts of the case. Plain and simple. No personal comment was included.
Just now, RKM2021 said:
The judge ordered unproven care is a fact of the case not a comment of mine.
"While he has likely received his last dose at UC West Chester hospital, we can only hope his condition continues to trend positively,” Davidson said, adding that his client’s condition had stabilized and is improving."
Anyone who has worked ICU has heard the old "the patient is stable" and known that it actually only means "he hasn't died on my shift."
While I am against judges mandating doctors to administer medications or treatments that go against their medical judgment simply on the word of an unaffiliated physician who has never seen/examined/treated the patient in question, I do hope this person survives and is able to resume a healthy life. If he does, it will likely NOT be due to any Ivermectin he was administered while deathly ill and ventilated. I won't be at all surprised, however, when his survival is attributed to the Ivermectin vs the other proven treatments and the expert care given by his doctors and nurses. We'll hear how a few days of this "miracle cure" made all the difference.
Again, I state that I hope this man survives his bout with Covid-19.
What's needed is for all the morons like judges and legislators to be rounded up and herded into a cinema and shown just how ignorant and uneducated they are, by showing them how someone with say, Huntington's Disease or Parkinsons or MS etc live or look. You can't expose them directly to them, because who knows what STDs or virulent diseases they are carrying because you can guarantee that their ignorance bleeds into their behaviors!
Teach if possible, because never forget they are morons, maybe some rudimentary biology of how proteins express themselves or a little about genes out of control! Anyone who goes through life and doesn't remember or is affected by so many disease processes, is an absolute idiot in my book. The arrogance of stupidity never fails to amaze me!
Let them gain some insight into just how little they know about many things, because it's a cardinal rule of arrogance, that you ARE STUPID AND IGNORANT!!
And the problem with Americans is that because of our ignorance we have the biggest mouths and all over the world people laugh at us!
Does anyone remember trump elbowing an Eastern European minister out of the way? Do you really think that the rest of the world has forgotten that? Which country was he representing as leader, by the way? Who do you think many of those legislators and politicians support?
I read about that in awe. The hospital should just discharge the patient so he can go and continue with ivermectin at home. Ivermectin is not safe. I was taking care of a covid patient who was really sick and undergoing liver failure from using ivermectin. His family wanted us to continue giving him ivermectin and we refused. The hospital should pre screen patients during admissions and if they are using unapproved medications, they should sign a waiver so that they don’t try to force the hospital to kill them with medications that are not FDA approved. I guarantee you that they’ll sue the hospital if things go south…
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I read that Friday was day 11, so the order was good for 14 days, which runs on Monday. The judge did state the hospital could remove the drug if it is clear it is causing him harm. The plaintiff contents the drugs are working and the hosptial says there is no real difference, though I believe the ICU doctor stated there could be some improvement. I saw the judge is looking over everything submitted and will make a ruling if the hospital will need to continue giving Mr. Smith the treatment or if the hospital can discontinue it.