I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Yep. That's why Trump supporters are certain that how long it takes to write an unimpeachable decision against Trump is the real story. "Why did it take so long, it must be a conspiracy" fits so well with the it's all a "hoax" or "witch hunt" narratives.
While he might be benefiting from the timing of being able to daly stuff. If bad news from the courts comes at him closer to the election, then for sure it will be called a conspiracy because the timings was designed to not get him. elected.
I wonder why this is a topic of discussion, how long they take; versus the unprecedented behaviors and attitudes from Trump that got us here in the first place. Oh wait, the time is probably what the right wing media is talking about rather than talking about the claims that a president could order Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political opponent who is widely perceived to be a threat to our national security (stealing and hiding military secrets) or to our constitution (conspiring to overthrow election results while degrading confidence in our elections), and be immune from prosecution. Of course Trump fans want to talk about how long it takes for the judge's to decide that is a ridiculous contention rather than to talk about that power that Biden currently owns... according to Trump. They don't want to talk about the reality that Kamala Harris gets to certify the vote next January. Should she follow the Trump belief or the constitution.
Yep. That's why Trump supporters are certain that how long it takes to write an unimpeachable decision against Trump is the real story. "Why did it take so long, it must be a conspiracy" fits so well with the it's all a "hoax" or "witch hunt" narratives.
You brought it up, and it reminded me of a article I read a few days before. I'm not a sure anyone would consider it right wing media, however:
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While he might be benefiting from the timing of being able to daly stuff. If bad news from the courts comes at him closer to the election, then for sure it will be called a conspiracy because the timings was designed to not get him. elected.
Bad news from the courts is definitely going to come at Trump closer to the election. He will certainly call all of it lies and a leftist conspiracy and election interference. Trump supporters will believe him and talk of civil war. Moderates and independents will have to decide between Biden and a third party that might work to benefit the candidate with unprecedented legal troubles.
I can't read the NYT article, but since this this the Trump thread:
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Donald Trump clearly has dementia. He has forgotten time and again that Barack Obama isn't still the president. He thinks Nikki Haley was Speaker of the House instead of Nancy Pelosi. He says he's "winning" his New York fraud trial, but the trial is over. He lost.
And he asked his followers if he looks like Elvis on Truth Social.
It would be talking long because they are likely using a meticulous approach to the question of presidential immunity. Having said that, they only heard Trump's argument that he should enjoy total immunity in January. It's common for they're decisions to take months. Most legal analysts expect their opinions to run in the hundreds of pages and to be issued before Summer.
Apparently they weren't as meticulous as you thought.
A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit has ruled that Donald Trump does not enjoy broad immunity from federal prosecution, a major legal setback for the former president who said he will appeal.
They wrote that for the purposes of this criminal case, "former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant."
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It would be "a striking paradox," the judges wrote, if the president, who alone has the constitutional duty to ensure that laws be faithfully executed "were the sole officer capable of defying those laws with impunity."
Steven Cheung, a spokesman for Trump, said the former president "respectfully disagrees with the DC Circuit's decision and will appeal it in order to safeguard the Presidency and the Constitution."
"If immunity is not granted to a President, every future President who leaves office will be immediately indicted by the opposing party," he said in a statement. "Without complete immunity, a President of the United States would not be able to properly function!"
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"We cannot accept that the office of the Presidency places its former occupants above the law for all time thereafter," the judges wrote. Doing so, they said, "would collapse our system of separated powers by placing the President beyond the reach of all three branches."
Trump will appeal to the Supremes, of course, I hope his legal team brings a better and more compelling argument the high court than they did to the Circuit Court.
A political fundraising group controlled by Donald Trump has spent millions of dollars on law firms representing his adult children for their personal legal problems.
The group, called Save America PAC, spent a combined $2.3 million in 2023 for two law firms that represented Ivanka Trump, his eldest daughter, according to a Business Insider review of Federal Election Commission records.
The PAC spent an additional $5.3 million on the law firm Robert & Robert, which represented his three eldest children — Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, and Donald Trump, Jr. — as well as the Trump Organization in an array of lawsuits that have no apparent relation to Trump's campaign to retake the presidency in the 2024 election.
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Trump founded Save America shortly after he lost the 2020 presidential election. He's used it as is primary fundraising vehicle, often sending out messages making false claims about the 2020 election and his legal problems to convince donors to give it money.
Much of the PAC's expenses go to legal fees, as Trump battles criminal indictments and civil lawsuits over his attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, claims of sexual misconduct and defamation, and alleged financial misconduct through his company, and sues media organizations for what he claims is unfair coverage.
Robert Maguire, the research director for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a campaign finance watchdog organization, said that Trump has deceived Save America's donors for years.
This is an interesting phenomenon. Do you remember when a group of psychiatrists met and issued a warning of concern about Trump's mental health? We admonished those experts and now we have millions of Americans under the spell of a mentally unhealthy liar. Millions of Americans manipulated by a corrupt narcissist.
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While he might be benefiting from the timing of being able to daly stuff. If bad news from the courts comes at him closer to the election, then for sure it will be called a conspiracy because the timings was designed to not get him. elected.