I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
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Crusades said:
Cool. Let's have a listen.
So why now? It's been 8 yrs. He had all that time in his 4 star General life to release this info. Via print or words.
NYT Investigative reporter Michael Schmidt has interviewed Kelly before requesting audio, per his report it was Trumps comments about going after Americans that was over the line with General Kelly finally agreed to a recorded interview,
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Beerman said:
Plenty of liberals and media were calling Kelly a liar back when he was working under Trump. Including Senator Kamala Harris.
Now, he's a trustworthy source. 🤔
Really? Can you give me a quote of Harris calling Kelly a liar? This sounds like a hyperbolic fabrication in the absence of evidence that a Democrat (specifically Harris) called the retired General a liar. Did this imagined thing happen while he was Trump's longest serving chief of staff?
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Crusades said:
Cool. Let's have a listen.
So why now? It's been 8 yrs. He had all that time in his 4 star General life to release this info. Via print or words.
Harris' campaign is joy. Hitler had a movement "power through joy" so she's literally Hitler but a communist. Oh and she wants to disarm the population (even of only a little bit) and control "disinformation" More Nazi.
Am I supposed to be insulted by "MAGA". After being called a Nazi, nothing offends me anymore. MAGA no MAGA don't care.
How dumb. Kind of fun tho. I'm beginning to see the appeal.
Why now? LOL is that the problem, that he told these truths now rather than 4 years ago or 3 years ago or even earlier this year? I would imagine that the marine Corp general wanted to warn the people that one of the candidates is a fascist with disqualifying character flaws who called members of the military losers while musing that they might be needed to round up anti-trump citizens and politicians (the enemy within). Kelly mentioned that character is a very important consideration in choosing leadership. Trump's character is deeply flawed.
No, I wouldn't expect you to be insulted by the term MAGA, that's the name of the group you are so faithful to. Some people were previously insulted by the term MAGAphiles. Some of them are insulted but having their association to racism or misogyny exposed. But, I haven't run into any Trump voters who are insulted by being associated with MAGA.
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NRSKarenRN said:
NYT Investigative reporter Michael Schmidt has interviewed Kelly before requesting audio, per his report it was Trumps comments about going after Americans that was over the line with General Kelly finally agreed to a recorded interview,
It's weird that she had so much to say about the remarks and the general before taking a moment to actually access the interview and listen to the audio. Curated ignorance is helpful in maintaining support of Trump.
Trump's sycophants want us to trust them over our own eyes and ears
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...Are we supposed to believe he bears no responsibility for January 6th when we all watched him summon a mob and sic it on the Capitol?
Are we supposed to believe that this is all about some personal tiff between Kelly and Trump when so many others have so many similar accounts?
When Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, told us that "the American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution" on January 6th?
When James Mattissaid Trump's "use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice"?
When Mark Esper said Trump was "unfit for office,” and put "himself before country"?
When John Bolton warned that "this will be a retribution presidency"?
When Ty Cobbsaid Trump's "conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation"?
When Mark Milley called Trump "fascist to the core" and "the most dangerous person to this country"?
WhenBill Barr said Trump "shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office"?
I have another idea: Why don't we accept the obvious truth that is staring us in the face? Trump is dangerous and unfit and all the responsible people who served in his last term have told us as much.
Really? Can you give me a quote of Harris calling Kelly a liar? This sounds like a hyperbolic fabrication in the absence of evidence that a Democrat (specifically Harris) called the retired General a liar. Did this imagined thing happen while he was Trump's longest serving chief of staff?
I'm sure you must remember she was one of the few who voted against his confirmation because she didn't trust him.
Plenty of other Dems criticized him and called him a liar. I'm not inclined to find it for you as you'll just deflect.
As mental health professionals, we have an ethical duty to warn the public that Donald Trump is an existential threat to democracy. His symptoms of severe, untreatable personality disorder—malignant narcissism—makes him deceitful, destructive, deluded, and dangerous. He is grossly unfit for leadership.
Trump exhibits behavior that tracks with the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual's (DSM V) diagnostic criteria for "narcissistic personality disorder,” "antisocial personality disorder,” and "paranoid personality disorder,” all made worse by his intense sadism, which is a symptom of malignant narcissism. This psychological type was first identified by German psychologist Erich Fromm to explain the psychology of history's most "evil" dictators....
Because of their sadism, malignant narcissists often derive joy from inflicting suffering on others because they disregard the emotions and wellbeing of other people—especially their perceived enemies. For example, according to first-hand accounts, Trump watched the violence he unleashed on January 6 for three hours on TV with "glee,” watching his favorite parts "over and over" on "rewind.”
To make matters worse, Trump appears to be showing signs of cognitive decline that urgently cry out for a full neurological work-up, including an MRI and neuropsychological testing. These symptoms include: a dramatic decrease in verbal fluency, tangential thinking, diminished vocabulary, overuse of superlatives and filler words, perseveration, confabulation, phonemic paraphasia, semantic paraphasia, confusing people (not just names), as well as exhibiting deteriorating judgment, impulse control, and motor functioning (including a wide-based gait). We suspect the results of such an evaluation would be disqualifying. If, as we suspect, Trump does have organically based cognitive decline, it will only get worse over time, grossly degrading his already impaired judgment, impulse control, memory, attention, reality testing, and capacity to process information, while dramatically exacerbating the symptoms of his toxic personality disorder...
In it, mental-health experts explain even more succinctly why realdonaldtrump's personality disorders render him unfit for office—and a danger to the country.
Why now? LOL is that the problem, that he told these truths now rather than 4 years ago or 3 years ago or even earlier this year? I would imagine that the marine Corp general wanted to warn the people that one of the candidates is a fascist with disqualifying character flaws who called members of the military losers while musing that they might be needed to round up anti-trump citizens and politicians (the enemy within). Kelly mentioned that character is a very important consideration in choosing leadership. Trump's character is deeply flawed.
No, I wouldn't expect you to be insulted by the term MAGA, that's the name of the group you are so faithful to. Some people were previously insulted by the term MAGAphiles. Some of them are insulted but having their association to racism or misogyny exposed. But, I haven't run into any Trump voters who are insulted by being associated with MAGA.
I have no cares or any considerations of your apparent clairvoyance that tells you I'm MAGA
So everyone who votes for Trump is "associating themselfs with racism and misogyny "? I guess half the country is racist?
Which will be to to go to if Harris loses. "She lost because of racism and her gender".
Trump-haters using their professional credentials to influence the election. Not one of them has examined Trump.
"Anti-Psychopath PAC is dedicated to highlighting Donald Trump's mental instability, bringing it to the forefront of national discussion. We're doing everything we can — from television and digital ads, to billboards, to voter education programs — to prevent Donald Trump from returning to the White House.
NYT Investigative reporter Michael Schmidt has interviewed Kelly before requesting audio, per his report it was Trumps comments about going after Americans that was over the line with General Kelly finally agreed to a recorded interview,
So Kelly considers comments of "going after Americans " is over the line but the "nazi general" allegation was within line?
I'm so sure that they were asking for a interview with Kelly for so long and now, conveniently, he decides to tell all. Less than 1 month before an election.
Trump-haters using their professional credentials to influence the election. Not one of them has examined Trump.
"Anti-Psychopath PAC is dedicated to highlighting Donald Trump's mental instability, bringing it to the forefront of national discussion. We're doing everything we can — from television and digital ads, to billboards, to voter education programs — to prevent Donald Trump from returning to the White House.
We have to stop this psychopath."
Right? When would a clan of "professionals" that openly admit they spam all sorts of media and information get away with diagnosing a person they have not examined. They full on admit that the goal is to "keep Trump from returning to the white house". Hahaha
I don't thing they even added a note that says they have not examined him or revewed his records.
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NYT Investigative reporter Michael Schmidt has interviewed Kelly before requesting audio, per his report it was Trumps comments about going after Americans that was over the line with General Kelly finally agreed to a recorded interview,