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Lately I've been taking report at night from the same nurse. yet if I have a question her stock answer is "YOU'RE the RN!" umm yeah ok so my badge says RN (I've only been licensed since July, I'm still learning ALOT!) and hers says LPN (5yrs med/surg experience), that doesn't mean jack sometimes when it comes down to floor experience and me having a patient that has some med or disorder that is new me! When it comes to knowledge and patient care the RN on my badge do not indicate "knows it all" (ok so there might be a few out there like that, they just aren't on our floor lol), just answer the question if you can, if you don't know just say you don't know not to mention if she knows I'm following her, she'll leave stuff undone because "The RN can do it better" yeah I don't buy into that one bit and luckily neither does my NM
I certainly don't like her comments. They are hostile, more importantly it seems to be away to keep people from expecting more of her.
I hate Lpn's who use the line" why should I do it, I don't get paid as much as yadada" I just want to slap the heck out of them. I worked with a couple who would say that kind of crap.
I usually try and patiently say, as long as you are willing to push off onto the Rn what you are capable of doing, all you are doing is instilling how much an Lpn might not be needed . I then in all firmness I say "and I do not like your jepordizing my livelihood so either be all that you can be or get out. People like you reflect on my title"
So far this has been effective.
Mmhmm, I agree. I have worked with very experienced LPNS and brand new RNs at the same time, and vice versa. There have been a couple of LPNs who have had a bad attitude, complaining that the "RN is getting paid more, she should know what she's doing"...but for the most part, everyone else I've worked with has understood that experience is everything.
Heck, I myself (as a CNA) have had to teach new nurses (or ones who just haven't been on my floor/unit before) about specific patients and how they need things done. It's not a big deal. Whatever your title is, you're still a human being with a learning process, and you'd think people who have gone through the same thing before would understand that!
i certainly don't like her comments. they are hostile, more importantly it seems to be away to keep people from expecting more of her.i hate lpn's who use the line" why should i do it, i don't get paid as much as yadada" i just want to slap the heck out of them. i worked with a couple who would say that kind of crap.
i usually try and patiently say, as long as you are willing to push off onto the rn what you are capable of doing, all you are doing is instilling how much an lpn might not be needed . i then in all firmness i say "and i do not like your jepordizing my livelihood so either be all that you can be or get out. people like you reflect on my title"
so far this has been effective.
i feel the same way. lpns like this embarass me, they really, really do, and they also diminish our role and can push us right out of a job. in fact, i avoid lpns like this like the plague! now, i do believe in following policy and scope of practice, however, there are plenty that lpns can and should do in order to represent the fact that one...we are nurses as well and also, that we are competent. i have seen some rns tote their positions and diminsh anyone they can, push off their work (even skills outside of the lpn practice-which i don't go for), but that is a personality issue, not an lpn-rn thing.
i must say that i am similarly embarrassed by "but she's just an lpn" new rn's.
*~jess~*
i agree with you...this comes from both sides and should not be acceptable. the other issue i have regarding wording is "the nurses and the lpns"...i mean, hello...we are both nurses...different scopes of practice, but we are nurses. i have been saying at work several times that i believe it is a bit more appropriate to call us by our proper titles, if necessary...rns and lpns because the previous seems to denote that the only nurses are rns and that simply isn't true.
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