The Kamala Harris Thread

Tweety said:

Not sure who you are addressing as you're not quoting anyone.  

Crusades, just above,  explained what she thought was Harris's radical left agenda (predictably mentioning the border) and her mention of Walz was that he was chosen because of his identity in that he wasn't Jewish (perhaps other identities like white, male but she only mentioned the Jewish thing).   I'm not sure why she's saying he wasn't chosen on merits and accomplishments, because clearly he aligns with her very well, despite being a white male Christian. 

As I mentioned prior, clearly she made a good choice because as people have gotten to know Walz, his accomplishments and merits, they really really like the guy.  

My two cents is that it's semantics.  Instead of saying "progressive" like we do, people are the right are saying "radical left".  

 

I don't call it semantics, I call it intentional misrepresentation, spin, hyperbolic rhetoric, lies or propaganda.  Very little about what team Trump has said about Walz has much to do with facts or reality. 

nursej22 said:

What makes Walz a radical? Free school meals? Health insurance? Allowing people to live their lives without the government policing personal matters? 

We could start with his quote that "One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness."

Reminiscent of Kamala saying that some should get help so that "we all end up in the same place."

Beerman said:

We could start with his quote that "One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness."

 

So helping one's neighbor is radical? Is having public schools, police and fire departments, public utility districts radical? 

nursej22 said:

So helping one's neighbor is radical? Is having public schools, police and fire departments, public utility districts radical? 

 

Yes, when your political party is toying with fascism public education is considered radical.  

Beerman said:

We could start with his quote that "One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness."

Reminiscent of Kamala saying that some should get help so that "we all end up in the same place."

You could start with that.  Please explain what they meant and why you believe that message to be radical.  The Harris quote, specifically, is pretty brief and absent any context so your explanation would help me to understand what is troubling about either of those remarks.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Yes, when your political party is toying with fascism public education is considered radical.  

I do not understand this statement. Can you dumb it down for me? Fascism is another that recently seems to have a new meaning. 

nursej22 said:

I do not understand this statement. Can you dumb it down for me? Fascism is another that recently seems to have a new meaning. 

The republican party is playing with fascism.  Their P2025 manifesto is evidence of that far right extremist thinking. The fascism I'm talking about is the same fascism that we understand thanks to the efforts of the likes of Mussolini and Hitler. What meaning are you talking about?

toomuchbaloney said:

The republican party is playing with fascism.  Their P2025 manifesto is evidence of that far right extremist thinking. The fascism I'm talking about is the same fascism that we understand thanks to the efforts of the likes of Mussolini and Hitler. What meaning are you talking about?

Oops, I thought it was beerman who was saying my political party was toying with fascism. My bad. My understanding of fascism is the same one you are talking about. 
The orange man-baby likes to label democrats as fascists and I think he does not know what that word means. He might as well be calling doo-doo heads. 

nursej22 said:

So helping one's neighbor is radical? Is having public schools, police and fire departments, public utility districts radical? 

 

Is that what you think he was speaking of?  Is that why you think The Squad is so enamored with him?

nursej22 said:

I do not understand this statement. Can you dumb it down for me? Fascism is another that recently seems to have a new meaning. 

Fascism was the buzzword of the day on the Sunday morning political shows.

It least it's a nice break from "threat to democracy".

toomuchbaloney said:

You could start with that.  Please explain what they meant and why you believe that message to be radical.  The Harris quote, specifically, is pretty brief and absent any context so your explanation would help me to understand what is troubling about either of those remarks.  

I wouldn't expect you or most others here on the left to find the Democrat ticket to be radical. 

The Harris quote isn't new and is easily found if you're so inclined.

Beerman said:

Fascism was the buzzword of the day on the Sunday morning political shows.

It least it's a nice break from "threat to democracy".

Socialism has been a buzzword for conservatives my entire life, and I'm old.  

Fascism isn't a break from the warning that Trump is a threat to our democracy, it is the threat.