The Kamala Harris Thread

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Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.

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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz." 

Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cruz-warns-against-underestimating-harris-dems-pitching-her-mother-teresa-oprah-gandhi-combo

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My patient was watching Fox News and they spent a considerable amount of time criticizing Harris over the border.  

Meanwhile over at social media platform Threads, I'm seeing people from border state Arizona posting from a 20,000 person rally and the mad cheers they got.

Fox's New's take is that they weren't cheering for Harris but trying to drown out anti-Israel protestors.  NBC reports it as she calls for a cease fire and respect for the protestors.  

Not sure if there were any anti-border policy protestors there.

 

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I wanted to see how this was reported.  Most are saying "like Trump" but there's this headline over on Fox News:  Harris slammed as 'CopyCatKamala' for following Trump's lead on exempting taxes on tips

I believe the current idea started in Congress this Summer, but Trump was the first to make the campaign promise.  

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a big deal, but I also don't think it's fair that people making an income don't pay taxes on it the way the rest of us do. 

https://budgetlab.yale.edu/news/240624/no-tax-tips-act-background-tipped-workers

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-slammed-copycatkamala-after-following-trumps-lead-taxes-admin-worked-collect-more-taxes

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Harris has some good accomplishment. 

However I do not trust her with her far left radical ideology of open borders, defending the police and fundraising for violent 2020 rioters. 

She seems to change on a whim. I find her lies regarding Biden's cognition/health right upto the point where she became the dem nominee off putting. Perhaps it could be seen as a call to duty. 

I'm as disappointed that so much thought was put in for her VP was identity based. Couldn't have Shapiro because he's Jewish and that wouldn't vote well with the rising Hamas supporting voters and some in congress. I wish people were selected on their merit not their identity. 

I am at a cross roads as to where my vote will go. I said Biden's cognition was my primary concern and this was the truth. However the lack of pushback on the more radical part of the democratic party puts me more right. The inability or refusal to place restrictions on abortion or to even acknowledge lose abortion laws could lead to abortions other than the threat to woman's life a huge factor for me. I've often said if I had to pick between lose restrictions vs strict restrictions I would have to go with strict. 

Then my personal experience on how I have been treated in my everyday life with friends and family is also a huge factor. My very republican friends will listen to my more democrat ideas and thoughts while my democrat friends and family will immediately resort to calling me all sorts of names. 

I don't know. 

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Tweety said:

I wanted to see how this was reported.  Most are saying "like Trump" but there's this headline over on Fox News:  Harris slammed as 'CopyCatKamala' for following Trump's lead on exempting taxes on tips

I believe the current idea started in Congress this Summer, but Trump was the first to make the campaign promise.  

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a big deal, but I also don't think it's fair that people making an income don't pay taxes on it the way the rest of us do. 

https://budgetlab.yale.edu/news/240624/no-tax-tips-act-background-tipped-workers

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-slammed-copycatkamala-after-following-trumps-lead-taxes-admin-worked-collect-more-taxes

Empty and weak criticisms that have no value or actual meaning form the party and people who will vote for the most corrupt and dishonest candidate of their lifetimes.  

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Crusades said:

Harris has some good accomplishment. 

However I do not trust her with her far left radical ideology of open borders, defending the police and fundraising for violent 2020 rioters. 

She seems to change on a whim. I find her lies regarding Biden's cognition/health right upto the point where she became the dem nominee off putting. Perhaps it could be seen as a call to duty. 

I'm as disappointed that so much thought was put in for her VP was identity based. Couldn't have Shapiro because he's Jewish and that wouldn't vote well with the rising Hamas supporting voters and some in congress. I wish people were selected on their merit not their identity. 

I am at a cross roads as to where my vote will go. I said Biden's cognition was my primary concern and this was the truth. However the lack of pushback on the more radical part of the democratic party puts me more right. The inability or refusal to place restrictions on abortion or to even acknowledge lose abortion laws could lead to abortions other than the threat to woman's life a huge factor for me. I've often said if I had to pick between lose restrictions vs strict restrictions I would have to go with strict. 

Then my personal experience on how I have been treated in my everyday life with friends and family is also a huge factor. My very republican friends will listen to my more democrat ideas and thoughts while my democrat friends and family will immediately resort to calling me all sorts of names. 

I don't know. 

Harris doesn't have an open border policy.  She's never articulated or done anything to suggest a much.  Harris does defend law enforcement and the government rule of law and she has personal and professional history which reflects that.  Harris did not fund raise for violent rioters.  We discussed that previously but you seem to have missed all of the contradictory facts related to your belief about that. Don't you remember me addressing this and dispelling your confusion with a citation that discussed the specifics about the who, what, and why of your claim?  Don't you recall that I wondered why you would say something about that when your guy is an actual felon who promised to parole the criminals who violently attacked our Capitol? A Trump supporter talking about fundraising on behalf of criminals is some special kind of gas lighting right there.  Thanks for going there again.  

If you think that Harris changes her mind about important stuff, wait until you hear about what her opponent and his rudderless VP pick have flip flopped on.  It's quite a fun contrast.  I mean, Trump's VP pick called Trump America's Hitler before saying he was the best president.  That's quite an important flip flop.  

It's kind of funny that you wonder about Harris choosing people on merit but when you compare her VP choice to Trump's VP choice it's pretty clear that one of those picks is qualified on merit and one is qualified because he loves Trump and (as Trump said) is kissing Trump's behind.  Doesn't that just seem ridiculous? 

It's difficult to make a measured decision about a presidential election when one is fully engaged with a right wing propagandist and his media sycophants.  People are worried about late term abortion rather than paying attention to what Trump is saying and who he is.  He is a mentally ill old man in cognitive decline who is a sociopath and felon.  Right wing media has them distracted with social grievances and made up issues.  

I'm sorry that your family and friends are making you feel uncomfortable. It sounds like you've found a safe place.  

 

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What makes Walz a radical? Free school meals? Health insurance? Allowing people to live their lives without the government policing personal matters? 

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nursej22 said:

What makes Walz a radical? Free school meals? Health insurance? Allowing people to live their lives without the government policing personal matters? 

It's called context-blindness (syn. tunnel vision). Heh ... wait'll s/he hears about the Land Back movement!

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Crusades said:

I find her lies regarding Biden's cognition/health right upto the point where she became the dem nominee off putting. Perhaps it could be seen as a call to duty. 

I'm glad to see you contemplating things, especially when lies didn't bother you compared to cognition.  Your words not mine.

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nursej22 said:

What makes Walz a radical? Free school meals? Health insurance? Allowing people to live their lives without the government policing personal matters? 

Not sure who you are addressing as you're not quoting anyone.  

Crusades, just above,  explained what she thought was Harris's radical left agenda (predictably mentioning the border) and her mention of Walz was that he was chosen because of his identity in that he wasn't Jewish (perhaps other identities like white, male but she only mentioned the Jewish thing).   I'm not sure why she's saying he wasn't chosen on merits and accomplishments, because clearly he aligns with her very well, despite being a white male Christian. 

As I mentioned prior, clearly she made a good choice because as people have gotten to know Walz, his accomplishments and merits, they really really like the guy.  

My two cents is that it's semantics.  Instead of saying "progressive" like we do, people are the right are saying "radical left".  

 

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Crusades said:

My very republican friends will listen to my more democrat ideas and thoughts while my democrat friends and family will immediately resort to calling me all sorts of names. 

I'm sorry your experience is people calling you all sorts of names.  

I remember saying a while back that it does seem the liberals are passionately more anti-Trump and Republican and vocal about it than visa versa.

I also get it because I've been called a snowflake, libtard, sheeple, and to f-your feelings and shut up.  Doesn't feel good to be invalidated so I've always made it my personal philosophy to take the higher road.  (Some of Democrat friends and people here have criticized me for that.)

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Tweety said:

Not sure who you are addressing as you're not quoting anyone.  

 

I wasn't aware that quoting someone was required was posing a question.


Multiple conservative/Republican/Trump supporters have labeled Walz as radical.

Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, but I think words mean something, and it bothers me when labels get thrown around with nothing to back them up. Take for instance, "border czar". 

When a pejorative like radical is used, the speaker or writer should back it up. 

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nursej22 said:

I wasn't aware that quoting someone was required was posing a question.

I know I can be snarky, but really?  I was just wondering what the context was given the flow of the thread.  Excuse me.  

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