The Kamala Harris Thread

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Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.

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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz." 

Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cruz-warns-against-underestimating-harris-dems-pitching-her-mother-teresa-oprah-gandhi-combo

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toomuchbaloney said:

You should suggest that Trump try to find commonality with people in general but you can forget about him being genuine. Harris and Walz are genuine and it's clear that lots of people are drawn to that.  Their opponent is a fraud and is literally mentally ill.  Most people don't have much in common with that.  

I don't think at this time either side is trying to find common ground.   Both are digging in their heels and finding differences.  Harris has always been left of center and when she was running for President it seemed she was even left of Biden.  Her running mate is also decidedly left, sending the message that the bridge between us is just too wide.  

That being said, people genuinely like her and they especially like the down-to-earthiness of "Coach Walz".  They've touched a nerve and the word "joy" is often used in describing the mood of Democrats currently. 

Compare that to people saying "Trump is awful but...yeah Trump lies but....I don't like that he's the nominee but....." he's better for the country.  People don't like him and don't like that he's running for President.  He has a good possibility of winning but not because he's found any common ground with anyone other than being petty and disliking liberals who he claims hates America.  

There's a difference.

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Crusades said:

It's just interesting that dems says DEI is necessary but I if someone suggesting someone is DEI that's a terrible insult? Is it shameful to have benefited from DEI? . How about believing that a minority has no chance on their own merit or skills to be successful and needs programs like DEI? Is that insulting? 

Again, you missed the entire point.  If Republicans were saying DEI was a good thing and it's great the Mrs. Harris benefited from it, then I would shut up about.  They aren't.  They are using it as an insult, and a point of contention (see second article below).  That's why I'm insulted.  If you don't get that fine.

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DEI – short for diversity, equity and inclusion – has become the latest dog-whistle term in the conservative war of words to frame basic egalitarianism as a net negative. 

 https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/apr/21/dei-language-conservatives-baltimore

 

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Kamala Harris And Tim Walz Are The Ultimate DEI Ticket

https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/19/kamala-harris-and-tim-walz-are-the-ultimate-dei-ticket/

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Tweety said:

I don't think at this time either side is trying to find common ground.   Both are digging in their heels and finding differences.  Harris has always been left of center and when she was running for President it seemed she was even left of Biden.  Her running mate is also decidedly left, sending the message that the bridge between us is just too wide.  

That being said, people genuinely like her and they especially like the down-to-earthiness of "Coach Walz".  They've touched a nerve and the word "joy" is often used in describing the mood of Democrats currently. 

Compare that to people saying "Trump is awful but...yeah Trump lies but....I don't like that he's the nominee but....." he's better for the country.  People don't like him and don't like that he's running for President.  He has a good possibility of winning but not because he's found any common ground with anyone other than being petty and disliking liberals who he claims hates America.  

There's a difference.

I disagree.  I watch (listen to) a high percentage of the campaign events of both parties.  I read their newsletters and voter outreach.  Harris is asking people to remember that we all love our country.  She's asking people to join her in the joyful work of making this republic better for all of us.  She's running against the guy that rambles about his successful name calling during campaign events.  

I think Harris is trying to find common ground with the middle. Things like ethics, morality, and character are common bonds.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

You should simply reread the words of yours that I quoted.  Your words reveal your thinking and values.  

Please. Show me my word where I said that Harris, or any POC male or female is only has power/success because of DEI. 

It's your thinking and values and the only words like that came from you. 

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Crusades said:

Please. Show me my word where I said that Harris, or any POC male or female is only has power/success because of DEI. 

It's your thinking and values and the only words like that came from you. 

Nah.  Your words speak for themselves. I don't need to try to convince you that your words left a particular impression.  

Yes, my words reflect my thinking and values, is that what you were trying to say? 

 

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DNC convention  LOOKED and SOUNDED like AMERICANS working together for a more perfect union...

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Lets VOTE!

 

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NRSKarenRN said:

DNC convention  LOOKED and SOUNDED like AMERICANS working together for a more perfect union...

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Lets VOTE!

 

I watched both conventions.  I stream them so I get to listen to all of the speakers and music rather than the commentary and analysis that you get on the networks. 

I think the DNC convention really inspired and motivated the delegates in attendance and many people watching to "do something". I expect lots of new voter registrations and neighborhood campaigning to flow from the event.  

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I loved her speech.  She was glowing and the ovation at the beginning was stunning.  The future is always worth fighting for.

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Fox News 8/23/24

White House lawyers who advised Reagan, Bush endorse Harris over Trump in 2024 showdown
 

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Trump 'remains unfit, dangerous and detached from reality,' say the former GOP White House lawyers

...The letter notes, "Donald Trump's own Vice President and multiple members of his Administration and White House Staff at the most senior levels – as well as former Republican nominees for President and Vice President – have already declined to endorse his reelection."...

...And pointing to the then-president's attempts to reverse the results of his 2020 election loss to President Biden, the Republican lawyers argued that "Trump's attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after losing the election proved beyond any reasonable doubt his willingness to place his personal interests above the law and values of our constitutional democracy."...

...The list of signatories to the letter, besides Luttig, includes (in alphabetical order) John B. Bellinger III, Senior Associate Counsel to the President and Legal Adviser to the NSC under George W. Bush, Phillip D. Brady, Deputy Counsel to the President under Reagan, Benedict S. Cohen, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan, Peter D. Keisler, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan, and Robert M. Kruger, Associate Counsel to the President under Reagan....

 

 

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There were about a dozen statements that Vice President Kamala Harris made during her roughly 40-minute acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago that were either misleading or lacking in context.

In the era of Trump, a dozen isn't a lot, but to me it's a lot.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/25/g-s1-19480/harris-dnc-fact-check

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Tweety said:

In the era of Trump, a dozen isn't a lot, but to me it's a lot.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/25/g-s1-19480/harris-dnc-fact-check

Did you agree with the analysis of the accuracy of her statements? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Did you agree with the analysis of the accuracy of her statements? 

Yes.  I find NPR a pretty reputable source for fact checking and offered up a good explanation why they thought they were false, spinning and misleading.  How about you?  

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