The Impeachment of Joe Biden

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Didn't I say in another thread that Trump supporters would make his life as President miserable?

And so it begins.

https://abc7.com/republican-georgia-congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-green-wants-to-impeach-biden-president-elect-joe-qanon-impeachment/9650673/

12 hours ago, BCgradnurse said:

What I really love is how those who think the election was "stolen" in certain states are only complaining about the presidential election.  If there are ballots missing, shouldn't the other races on said ballots be questioned also?  I haven't seen that happening. The what about-isms are weak, at best.  To quote what was often said in 2016, "you lost-get over it."

 

 

I haven't indicated one way other other if I think the election was stolen nor who I voted for. I personally think the Republicans should accept and move on to support the incoming Democratic administration.  I think the incoming administration should not go through another impeachment due to time/cost and much more pressing issues the country is facing. It's going to be difficult to move forward if they keep bring Trump with them.

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On 1/16/2021 at 7:57 PM, NRSKarenRN said:

Stacey Abrams has her sights set planning to run for Georgia governor in 2022 per pundits. She's said multiple times not interested in Senator, Washington this past year so that's why not part of Biden Admin.  High probability she will win on a second try as very positive name recognition now.

Stacy Abrams needs to be convinced otherwise. Just because that's what she wants doesn't mean that is what's best for her and for the country. 

What she accomplished in Georgia with a corrupt, stacked govt and legislators, is remarkable! Those skills need to be used for the Dems and for the country. Coupled with the obvious keen insights she's shown, she's needed in the federal government where she can help everyone incl Georgia. 

She's one of a sort politician that has an ability to ruffle few feathers whilst accomplishing great things. Her personality and delivery style is effective and efficient. 

You don't put a Ferrari in the garage where it can't be seen and appreciated. You park it out front and only drive it on the highways or downtown! 

She needs the experience of big govt to prepare her for the Presidency! 

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20 hours ago, Peachpit said:

I get Trump has his issues and there are things that are suspect and should be looked into..but shouldn't the same apply to Hunter Bidens laptop and the videos in question about how some of the ballots were handled improperly in Georgia? Seems the rules of ethics should apply to both sides, not just one.

And yes, some Trump supporters will make life difficult for Biden, just as some Biden/Dems supporters made life tough for Trump...there are extremists on both sides and some that just want to cause mayhem no matter who is in office. Broad brushing supporters of either party is neither fair nor productive in moving the overall country forward.

Tell me why you keep mentioning Biden's laptop. What importance does that have relative to our government? Please inform me with a couple links that have informed your opinion and concern...then maybe I'll understand why you keep mentioning him. 

Did you know that Georgia investigated the concerns you mentioned? Georgia republicans addressed those claims of fraud. The Georgia courts found the Trump case baseless.  

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What ethics are you talking about that are unevenly applied? Trump has no ethics, he's a corrupt liar. 

Broad brushing extremism on both sides when the country is in a battle for its life with right wing extremists seems a bit tone deaf...or sympathetic to the cause of the right wing. It would be like my physician wanting me to avoid alcohol while I'm having a heart attack...yeah both things could kill me...but...

Pretending like Trump isn't trying to seize power using an angry mob and sycophant politicians isn't going to move us forward.  Let's just be honest about who Trump is and what he's doing. 

The election was fair.  There was no widespread fraud...unless you want to count Trump's widespread lies. 

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28 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Tell me why you keep mentioning Biden's laptop. What importance does that have relative to our government? Please inform me with a couple links that have informed your opinion and concern...then maybe I'll understand why you keep mentioning him. 

Did you know that Georgia investigated the concerns you mentioned? Georgia republicans addressed those claims of fraud. The Georgia courts found the Trump case baseless.  

Kemp

What ethics are you talking about that are unevenly applied? Trump has no ethics, he's a corrupt liar. 

Broad brushing extremism on both sides when the country is in a battle for its life with right wing extremists seems a bit tone deaf...or sympathetic to the cause of the right wing. It would be like my physician wanting me to avoid alcohol because I'm having a heart attack...yeah both things could kill me...but...

Pretending like Trump isn't trying to seize power using an angry mob and sycophant politicians isn't going to move us forward.  Let's just be honest about who Trump is and what he's doing. 

The election was fair.  They're was no widespread fraud...unless you want to count Trump's widespread lies. 

I never said the election wasn't fair. I never said there was wide spread fraud. I said I personally believe there is some fraud in elections, I did not say it was wide spread or enough to make the results change. I never said I voted for or against Trump.

I have not asked anyone to pretend to like Trump or anyone else. I have not pretended to like him or anyone else. I have never said Trump isn't a lighting rod nor been dishonest about him/his issues.  

I don't keep bringing up Hunter Bidens laptop - it was an example that that both sides have their issues, try to spin some things in their favor or ignore them completely. 

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Peachpit said:

I don't keep bringing up Hunter Bidens laptop - it was an example that that both sides have their issues, try to spin some things in their favor or ignore them completely. 

I've never really liked the "but your side does it too" defense or "both sides have their issues".  It seems like a bit of a deflection from the topic at hand and not relevant.  But yes, no one's hands are clean in the world of politics.

Not that you've done it but I'm getting weary of the when I criticize the Capitol violence people want to bring up the BLM violence, as if that has anything to do with what I'm saying.  

But that's an issue I have.  I also, while I try not to, feel myself tempted to do it myself, and sometimes slip up.  So I get it. 

I also don't like people making generalizations, even about people that voted for Trump.

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25 minutes ago, Peachpit said:

I never said the election wasn't fair. I never said there was wide spread fraud. I said I personally believe there is some fraud in elections, I did not say it was wide spread or enough to make the results change. I never said I voted for or against Trump.

I have not asked anyone to pretend to like Trump or anyone else. I have not pretended to like him or anyone else. I have never said Trump isn't a lighting rod nor been dishonest about him/his issues.  

I don't keep bringing up Hunter Bidens laptop - it was an example that that both sides have their issues, try to spin some things in their favor or ignore them completely. 

 

 

 

You are right about that both sides have their aberrants, however I will categorically state that there's something seriously wrong with republicans! Seriously WRONG!! 

I lean conservative generally, but separating children from their mothers and placing them in cages SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE WAKE UP CALL!! 

Anyone (74 million), who didn't GRASP that, no matter how much they want their overall needs met by republican policies, SHOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY rejected everything that the current administration stood for! 

Even serial killers can be found to have redeeming features or justifications, but as a society we repudiate them INSTANTLY, BECAUSE THEY ARE Baaaadddd people! BAAADDDD! Believe me Trump is an extremely, dangerous and VERY BAD PERSON! He is serial killer bad! He is a mass murderer! And 74 million people accepted this and wanted to give him another chance!? And then the list of other crimes he's committed and also been involved with? 

WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE? 

I insist on giving everyone a 2nd chance, sometimes even a third, but 74 million people are now viewed by me as ALIEN! I am not being dramatic! I mostly work Psych and to me I only respond to behavior. I might as well be deaf on any Psych unit I work. 

Know the fable about the scorpion and the fox and the river? Well 74 million people are now scorpions to me! 

It's in their NATURE! KIDS IN CAGES AWAY FROM THEIR MOMS! JESUS CHRIST, MAN! Just thinking about it makes me feel like a mechanical machine that's just blown a circuit and I have come immediately to an abrupt stop and will be exploding within the next few seconds! 

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5 hours ago, Peachpit said:

I haven't indicated one way other other if I think the election was stolen nor who I voted for. I personally think the Republicans should accept and move on to support the incoming Democratic administration.  I think the incoming administration should not go through another impeachment due to time/cost and much more pressing issues the country is facing. It's going to be difficult to move forward if they keep bring Trump with them.

I disagree with this. Giving Trump and his violent white supremacist nazis a free pass after they attempted to void a free and fair election, not to mention overthrow our government, is a betrayal of every minority citizen and community in the nation.

Of course, white folks have a long and dishonorable history of throwing minorities under the bus as soon as we get what we want. Living down to that tradition of prioritizing white comfort and rendering minority experiences invisible is not acceptable to me. I wrote in another thread that, in my view, Trump and his cult need to face the same consequences as BLM would face for the same behavior.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Peachpit said:

I never said the election wasn't fair. I never said there was wide spread fraud. I said I personally believe there is some fraud in elections, I did not say it was wide spread or enough to make the results change. I never said I voted for or against Trump.

I have not asked anyone to pretend to like Trump or anyone else. I have not pretended to like him or anyone else. I have never said Trump isn't a lighting rod nor been dishonest about him/his issues.  

I don't keep bringing up Hunter Bidens laptop - it was an example that that both sides have their issues, try to spin some things in their favor or ignore them completely. 

 

 

 

You have mentioned Hunter Biden twice as evidence of liberals having issues? The Hunter Biden concern is primarily a Trump lie promoted by partisan Trump sycophants.  Yes, the FBI is conducting an investigation, that is hardly evidence that "both sides have their issues". Hunter Biden is not a presidential advisor for his father, influencing foreign policy to benefit his personal finances (like Javanka). 

No one asked who you voted for. 

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4 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

Stacy Abrams needs to be convinced otherwise. Just because that's what she wants doesn't mean that is what's best for her and for the country. 

What she accomplished in Georgia with a corrupt, stacked govt and legislators, is remarkable! Those skills need to be used for the Dems and for the country. Coupled with the obvious keen insights she's shown, she's needed in the federal government where she can help everyone incl Georgia. 

She's one of a sort politician that has an ability to ruffle few feathers whilst accomplishing great things. Her personality and delivery style is effective and efficient. 

You don't put a Ferrari in the garage where it can't be seen and appreciated. You park it out front and only drive it on the highways or downtown! 

She needs the experience of big govt to prepare her for the Presidency! 

Stacey Abrams needs to be supported no matter where she chooses to focus her energy. It’s not up to anyone else to dictate her priorities.

Democrats have an unfortunate tendency to disregard local and state politics as somehow less important than the “almighty” national offices. This is a mistake - and is the reason Republicans  have dominated state legislatures and governorships for so long. Can you say “gerrymander”?

Abrams played a large part in delivering those two Georgia senate seats to democrats. How about we just say “Thank you nice lady. Is there anything we can do to help you?” I don’t think she needs us to tell her what to do next.

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1 minute ago, heron said:

Stacey Abrams needs to be supported no matter where she chooses to focus her energy. It’s not up to anyone else to dictate her priorities.

Democrats have an unfortunate tendency to disregard local and state politics as somehow less important than the “almighty” national offices. This is a mistake - and is the reason Republicans  have dominated state legislatures and governorships for so long. Can you say “gerrymander”?

Abrams played a large part in delivering those two Georgia senate seats to democrats. How about we just say “Thank you nice lady. Is there anything we can do to help you?” I don’t think she needs us to tell her what to do next.

I agree with this so much.  A look at the consistently republican state politics of 70% of the nation is testimony to the horrible state of public health and public education across the nation.  

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3 minutes ago, heron said:

Democrats have an unfortunate tendency to disregard local and state politics as somehow less important than the “almighty” national offices. This is a mistake - and is the reason Republicans  have dominated state legislatures and governorships for so long. Can you say “gerrymander”?

Just like the saying "Charity begins at home," so too should government. I can't even imagine the sheer number of those who filled out ballots only for president, ignoring the state and local levels. But those state and local levels not only affect one in a more personal way, but also feed up to the national level. Big changes can start out small.

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I agree with this so much.  A look at the consistently republican state politics of 70% of the nation is testimony to the horrible state of public health and public education across the nation.  

Sorry ladies but one of the fundamentals of being a good manager is to know who are the gems and putting them in the position of fulfilling their abilities. I understand that you should consider her feelings however in many instances people don't know what they are capable of. 

I'm sure you ladies understand the concept of kingmaker. Same principle. Both parties try to select the individual who can reach people so that they can win the vote. The frontman isn't necessarily the main man. Women especially should know that behind every good man is a good woman who gets him there. 

Well LADIES, I believe that ala Merkel etc etc that women have the temperament to be the leaders. You have the disposition and lack the testosterone that so often clouds our judgment. Stacy Abrams has shown that she's a leader but mostly that she has excellent judgment and the necessary intelligence and compassion. 

Biden's making a great political move with his immigration policy but unless I'm dead wrong, he's just not strong enough to put the repubs in their place. That party needs separation from the potential Dems voters to the outliers of extremists. He needs someone who has already shown that she can do that! 

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