The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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toomuchbaloney said:

An ex Obama fundraiser, eh?

I'll see that and raise you multiple cabinet members and advisors.  

https://apnews.com/article/former-trump-officials-criticize-2024-e202861911ab37cadfcf058b5b163fb9

Have you noticed that all of the people who have testified against Trump in his legal worries are Republicans?  

I guess that doesn't fit well into the narrative that Republicans have forgon their morals, value and for law and order in the "era of Trump"? 

I would assume these Repunblucans have escaped the "cult"? 

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Crusades said:

I guess that doesn't fit well into the narrative that Republicans have forgon their morals, value and for law and order in the "era of Trump"? 

I would assume these Repunblucans have escaped the "cult"? 

I guess that means that you missed the part where any republican who speaks out against Trump is no longer considered a republican by the cult. They have a name they call them...RINOs.   That reality fits neatly into the reality that Trumpism has fully consumed the republican party.  The only ideology coming from the GOP now is MAGA. 

Crusades said:

I guess that doesn't fit well into the narrative that Republicans have forgon their morals, value and for law and order in the "era of Trump"? 

I would assume these Repunblucans have escaped the "cult"? 

It seems that the Biden campaign will be ditching the strategy of running on his accomplishments.  It wasn't working.  We haven't heard of "Bidenomics" in awhile, have we?

From now on its going to be about Trump, and how we can't have him in office again.  We'll hear and see images of Jan 6, hear "felon" quite often, etc.

The media cabal will play along, and some of their followers will disparage fellow Americans who have a different point of view.

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Beerman said:

It seems that the Biden campaign will be ditching the strategy of running on his accomplishments.  It wasn't working.  We haven't heard of "Bidenomics" in awhile, have we?

From now on its going to be about Trump, and how we can't have him in office again.  We'll hear and see images of Jan 6, hear "felon" quite often, etc.

The media cabal will play along, and some of their followers will disparage fellow Americans who have a different point of view.

Desparage others like people in a "cult"? LOL

I love the new one. Any video of Biden showing cognitive decline is now dubbed "deep fakes"! Lool 

There is a marked tendency for unified language among the dems such as: 

"Threat to our democracy " 

"Twice impeached (omitting being aquited) president" 

"Terminate our costitution" 

"Worse attack on American democracy...... ".

The newest "Trump cult". 

 

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Beerman said:

It seems that the Biden campaign will be ditching the strategy of running on his accomplishments.  It wasn't working.  We haven't heard of "Bidenomics" in awhile, have we?

From now on its going to be about Trump, and how we can't have him in office again.  We'll hear and see images of Jan 6, hear "felon" quite often, etc.

The media cabal will play along, and some of their followers will disparage fellow Americans who have a different point of view.

I dunno.  Maybe it depends upon how you experience the campaigns.  I am in Alaska, which has zero relevance to the presidential election.  We talk about Bidenomics because Trump supporters up here being it up while construction is in high gear here, wages are up and unions are empowered and supported by the President.  

Yes, this is a good time to begin the months long process of reminding the voters that Trump is a convicted felon who is also civilly accountable for fraud, sexual abuse and defamation.  I guess that disparaging liberals is OK but noting that Trump has consolidated the grievances of racists, white supremacists, white nationalists and nazis and that millions of voters happily associate themselves with that group is a bridge too far, eh?  That's just politics in the Trump era of TDS and libtard rhetoric.  

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Crusades said:

Desparage others like people in a "cult"? LOL

I love the new one. Any video of Biden showing cognitive decline is now dubbed "deep fakes"! Lool 

There is a marked tendency for unified language among the dems such as: 

"Threat to our democracy " 

"Twice impeached (omitting being aquited) president" 

"Terminate our costitution" 

"Worse attack on American democracy...... ".

The newest "Trump cult". 

 

I'm not going to ignore the threat of a corrupt politician who has a cult of personality simply because cult members might find that reality personally insulting.  

I'm sorry that you are unaware that the right wing has carefully curated the public opinion that they will corruptly edit audio and video to sell a fabricated narrative.  They've earned it.  

Project 2025 is a threat to our democratic republic.  If you can't see that, you are either not reading it or are in a cult.  

Twice impeached is an accurate description of Trump. So are adjectives like felon, fraud, liar, adulterer, and old. 

Trump was the guy who mused about terminating parts of the constitution which might limit his power, you'll have to take that up with him.  

Outside of 010621, when was the last time that a bunch of people attacked our Capitol in an attempt to stop the peaceful transition of power? What is worse than trying to overthrow a election? 

Again, a cult is identified by some well defined characteristics and it doesn't matter if you want to accept that or not.  You are simply providing more evidence that you are likely another unfortunate victim of that indoctrinated thinking.  

https://articles1.icsahome.com/articles/characteristics

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Crusades said:

Desparage others like people in a "cult"? LOL

I love the new one. Any video of Biden showing cognitive decline is now dubbed "deep fakes"! Lool 

There is a marked tendency for unified language among the dems such as: 

"Threat to our democracy " 

"Twice impeached (omitting being aquited) president" 

"Terminate our costitution" 

"Worse attack on American democracy...... ".

The newest "Trump cult". 

 

Actually it was dubbed a cheap fake.

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heron said:

Actually it was dubbed a cheap fake.

Yep. Trump's dysphasia gets the best of him sometimes but he's certainly making sure that his faithful cult gets that message about"fake" something.  It's working because it was just mentioned here by one of his faithful supporters. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

I'm not going to ignore the threat of a corrupt politician who has a cult of personality simply because cult members might find that reality personally insulting.  

I'm not going to ignore threat of having the POTUS seen as a weak demented old man to hostile countries 

I'm sorry that you are unaware that the right wing has carefully curated the public opinion that they will corruptly edit audio and video to sell a fabricated narrative.  They've earned it.  

Did you catch MSMBC showing the "edited" video and the original video of Biden and it was the exact samething. 

I know you are aware of the cut/edited videos of Trump's speeches etc that the left wing has fabricated. However you will never admit it. 

I seem to remember a young teenager being defamed and slandered for wearing a MAGA hat. And a certain officer "beaten with fire hydrant". 

 

Project 2025 is a threat to our democratic republic.  If you can't see that, you are either not reading it or are in a cult.  

So if I or someone else disagrees with you then "they don't read or in a cult"? 

Twice impeached is an accurate description of Trump. So are adjectives like felon, fraud, liar, adulterer, and old. 

Ad Nauseum Fallacy

aims to create belief by aiming sheer, ad nauseum repetition relentlessly at an exhausted subject.

Trump was the guy who mused about terminating parts of the constitution which might limit his power, you'll have to take that up with him.  

What was the exact quote? In it's entirely?  

Outside of 010621, when was the last time that a bunch of people attacked our Capitol in an attempt to stop the peaceful transition of power? What is worse than trying to overthrow a election? 

Apparently not 9/11 or Pearl Habour according to the opinion of some left wing. 

Again, a cult is identified by some well defined characteristics and it doesn't matter if you want to accept that or not.  You are simply providing more evidence that you are likely another unfortunate victim of that indoctrinated thinking.  

Guilt by Association Fallacy

The guilt by association fallacy muddles the process of fairly evaluating an idea, person, or group by interjecting irrelevant and misleading negative material.

https://articles1.icsahome.com/articles/characteristics

https://www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/thinking/fallacies.html

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heron said:

Actually it was dubbed a cheap fake.

Good democrat

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toomuchbaloney said:

Yep. Trump's dysphasia gets the best of him sometimes but he's certainly making sure that his faithful cult gets that message about"fake" something.  It's working because it was just mentioned here by one of his faithful supporters. 

Actually. It was the white house press secretary that called the latest video example of Bidens cognitive decline as a "cheap fake". Then left wing msm just like bots are now repeating it. 

It wasn't Trump that said anything . It was the WH LOL

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heron said:

Actually it was dubbed a cheap fake.

And if one looks closely enough, you can find "tells" that the image is fake.  AI is no replacement for reality.  The fake Fox released was amateurish with Biden looking like a cardboard insert.  We are all going to ratchet up our skepticism skills:(

 

 

 

 

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