I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
Biden spoke about a poison in America in this speech. Unlike his GOP opponent, Biden wasn't referring to immigrants and refugees at our southern border, he was talking about white supremacy.
Biden has definitely hired much better speech writers than Trump and his delivery of remarks isn't too bad for an old guy. IMV
Also talked about the same house in the same neighborhood differing in value depending on if white guy or black guy owned it.
"Merry Christmas to all, including Crooked Joe Biden's ONLY HOPE, Deranged Jack Smith, the out of control Lunatic who just hired outside attorneys, fresh from the SWAMP (unprecedented!), to help him with his poorly executed WITCH HUNT against 'TRUMP' and 'MAGA,'" he wrote on Christmas Day.
Included in his Christmas greeting were also "World Leaders both good and bad," and the "SICK thugs" in the U.S. who "with their Open Borders, INFLATION, Afghanistan Surrender, Green New Scam, High Taxes, No Energy Independence, Woke Military, Russia/Ukraine, Israel/Iran, All Electric Car Lunacy, and so much more, are looking to destroy our once great USA." "MAY THEY ROT IN HELL," the former president wrote. "AGAIN, MERRY CHRISTMAS!"
How does that compare in terms of ridiculous or divisive, in your view? Do you think they were similarly intentioned? Similarly ridiculous or similarly divisive?
Biden claims the same house in the same neighborhood is going to be valued less if a black person owns it. He was implying it was due to racism.
That would be a interesting real estate investing strategy. As a white guy, I could simply seek out the black-owned property, buy it, then sell it as a white-owned property for profit. Of course, Zillow and the like will have to add the "race" search criteria for me.
Your study compares white neighborhoods vs black neighborhoods. I believe the disparity in that. And there are a variety of factors as to why. I was looking at investing in Baltimore. In many places in the city a few blocks make a big difference in value. It so happens the mostly black areas are often lower value. Not because of racism. The homes are also run down, some boarded up or once site of fire and never repaired, and crime is rampant.
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Yes. Ridiculous.
Biden claims the same house in the same neighborhood is going to be valued less if a black person owns it. He was implying it was due to racism.
That would be a interesting real estate investing strategy. As a white guy, I could simply seek out the black-owned property, buy it, then sell it as a white-owned property for profit. Of course, Zillow and the like will have to add the "race" search criteria for me.
Your study compares white neighborhoods vs black neighborhoods. I believe the disparity in that. And there are a variety of factors as to why. I was looking at investing in Baltimore. In many places in the city a few blocks make a big difference in value. It so happens the mostly black areas are often lower value. Not because of racism. The homes are also run down, some boarded up or once site of fire and never repaired, and crime is rampant.
"My study" compares comparable homes, of comparable size and quality. It discussed the methods.
Lots of people scoff at the evidence of racism and call it ridiculous or imagined. That's always been the case.
"My study" compares comparable homes, of comparable size and quality. It discussed the methods.
In different neighborhoods, as I said.
Not a black-owned home compared to a neighboring white-owned home as Biden said.
"Homes in neighborhoods of color are appraised at far less values than in White neighborhoods across every major US metro, according to data analysis provided exclusively to Bloomberg CityLab by University of Illinois Chicago sociologist Junia Howell, who has done extensive research on appraisals."
To me it's a no brainer that if a black owned property in an all-black neighborhood was sold to a white owner the white owner would get a similar resale value based on the neighborhood not the owner's race.
We have some white trash meth and opiate crime ridden white areas in the county with low property values. (They call it "Penniless Park..LOL). I think it's obviously condition of the homes and the demand. No brainer.
To me it would be interesting to look at all-black neighborhoods that are safe and have middle class homes in decent shape and compare the value to all-white neighborhoods that are safe and have middle class homes of similar size and condition. I live in a racially mixed area and border a pretty much all-black middle class neighborhood that is safe and a quick look at a Zillow map reveals pretty decent prices compared to the white neighborhoods up north of us. Race to me doesn't appear to be a big factor in similar home prices around here which are horribly inflated, have horribly high insurance rates, and we are actually experiencing a net loss of people because of this.
Caveat is that my city is not on the list in the Bloomberg article and I believe that's probably a sound article but one would have to look at bias, etc.
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To me it's a no brainer that if a black owned property in an all-black neighborhood was sold to a white owner the white owner would get a similar resale value based on the neighborhood not the owner's race.
We have some white trash meth and opiate crime ridden white areas in the county with low property values. (They call it "Penniless Park..LOL). I think it's obviously condition of the homes and the demand. No brainer.
To me it would be interesting to look at all-black neighborhoods that are safe and have middle class homes in decent shape and compare the value to all-white neighborhoods that are safe and have middle class homes of similar size and condition. I live in a racially mixed area and border a pretty much all-black middle class neighborhood that is safe and a quick look at a Zillow map reveals pretty decent prices compared to the white neighborhoods up north of us. Race to me doesn't appear to be a big factor in similar home prices around here which are horribly inflated, have horribly high insurance rates, and we are actually experiencing a net loss of people because of this.
Caveat is that my city is not on the list in the Bloomberg article and I believe that's probably a sound article but one would have to look at bias, etc.
That part of Biden's speech really bothered some Trump supporters apparently. Go figure.
That part of Biden's speech really bothered some Trump supporters apparently. Go figure.
Race really is an issue with Republicans.
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For Republicans, the focus on race is not without risk. Recent polls suggest majorities of Americans believe discrimination exists in America. More voters trusted Biden than Donald Trump to handle race relations when given the choice last year. And though the "defund the police" movement polls poorly with voters, the controversy surrounding critical race theory is not yet especially well-known among the broader electorate.
Still, for Republican primary voters, the issue is a no brainer. Public polling shows Republicans are paying more attention to critical race theory than Democrats — and they view it more negatively, making it a highly effective instrument in the party's culture wars. In a Fox News poll last month, a majority of Republicans, when asked how things work in America today, said minorities are favored over whites. And the GOP's own polling has convinced many Republican candidates that they can make inroads with independent voters by characterizing Democrats as overly focused on race.
Biden claims the same house in the same neighborhood is going to be valued less if a black person owns it. He was implying it was due to racism.
That would be a interesting real estate investing strategy. As a white guy, I could simply seek out the black-owned property, buy it, then sell it as a white-owned property for profit. Of course, Zillow and the like will have to add the "race" search criteria for me.
Your study compares white neighborhoods vs black neighborhoods. I believe the disparity in that. And there are a variety of factors as to why. I was looking at investing in Baltimore. In many places in the city a few blocks make a big difference in value. It so happens the mostly black areas are often lower value. Not because of racism. The homes are also run down, some boarded up or once site of fire and never repaired, and crime is rampant.
And you believe that these neighborhood divides are created by what? Does redlining by banks and insurance companies have anything to do with housing prices? Could that be the result of racism? I get very annoyed when the race card is pulled out casually without back-up but this isn't one of those situations. Most of the time it really IS racism.
Trump maintained that the first black president wasn't qualified to hold office. Now he's making similar noises about his closest primary challenger, who also is not white. Trump supporters don't recognize that as racist and if they do they are called rinos and are kicked to the curb in GOP politics.
This is a pretty bold double standard of constitional disqualifiers for candidates.
And you believe that these neighborhood divides are created by what? Does redlining by banks and insurance companies have anything to do with housing prices? Could that be the result of racism? I get very annoyed when the race card is pulled out casually without back-up but this isn't one of those situations. Most of the time it really IS racism.
I said when it comes to divides between neighborhoods, there are many factors.
Let's stick to just what Biden said. He said that the same house in the same neighborhood the value is going to vary between white and black owners. That is absolutely untrue and playing the race card.
And, Biden was in the Senate for decades. Then VP for 8 years and President for 4. If "redlining" is a issue, he's one of the ones to blame for it not being fixed earlier. How's he going to be in a better position to fix it after he's re- elected.
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Also talked about the same house in the same neighborhood differing in value depending on if white guy or black guy owned it.
What a rediculous and divisive comment.