The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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Beerman said:

We've covered most all this before.  To try and make your point, you ignore  certain realities that I point out to you.  I'm not willing to go round and round and fonthat again, as we'll see what happens.

Harris got Mexico to police our border?  That one IS new.

How does that work when illegals from Venezuela,  China, etc try to cross?  You think Mexico is keeping them and prohibiting them from entering the US?  LOL 

 

Harris reinstated Trump's remain in Mexico policy, called it something else then took credit for it. 

I think this what tye member was talking about. 

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Wednesday wasn't just a good day for Donald Trump. The wealth of the world's 10 richest people also soared by a record amount, according to Bloomberg's Billionaire Index.

The biggest gainer was Elon Musk, the world's richest person and one of Trump's most outspoken and dedicated supporters, whose wealth jumped $26.5 billion to $290 billion Wednesday, according to Bloomberg. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos' wealth grew $7.1 billion a week after defending his decision to withhold the Washington Post's endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris. Oracle cofounder Larry Ellison, another Trump supporter, saw his net worth rose $5.5 billion Wednesday.

Other gainers include former Microsoft executives Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, former Google executives Larry Page and Sergey Brin and Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett. Although none of those billionaires endorsed a candidate this year, they have spoken in favor of Democratic candidates and causes in the past.

Collectively, the top 10 richest people gained $64 billion.

That's quite a haul for one day, speaking of the elite.  I know stocks rise and fall but "record amount" caught my eye.   I guess it's relative.  I got maybe $3,000?

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Beerman said:

We've covered most all this before.  To try and make your point, you ignore  certain realities that I point out to you.  I'm not willing to go round and round and fonthat again, as we'll see what happens.

Harris got Mexico to police our border?  That one IS new.

How does that work when illegals from Venezuela,  China, etc try to cross?  You think Mexico is keeping them and prohibiting them from entering the US?  LOL 

 

You aren't reading what I wrote.  Harris got Mexico to police THEIR southern border, NOT OURS.  Their border is miniscule next to ours and much easier to close.  You have me confused with someone else re: allowing asylum seekers into this country without checking out criminal records first.  I am pro asylum controls which the Republicans shot down.  You are disingenuous in entering illegals into the conversation.  If 480,000 people were deported in 2019, we can assume.that numbers even rose over the years.  If they were all illegals, I don't have a problem with that.  The Republicans don't want migration reform.  That would.remove the cause of their most successful grievance.  Otherwise, they don't have any other sensible policies about anything important to most citizens.  Now Trump will have to monitor what he says about Muslims since their  Dearborn votes were crucial to him.  How ironic.  He did have one terrific idea for me.  If income taxes were eliminated and.replaced with a 25% vat tax, I'd be all for it.  I pay a lot in income.taxes and already bought my new caw this year.  I'd be.much better off not paying income taxes.  All sorts of insane ideas will be proposed the next four years because crazy people have no filters and will propose anything that appeases their God, Orange or other.  Buckle up.  It's going to be an insane MAGA government.  In my little blue world the dems were successful.  If only all politics were local!

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If there is a silver lining pretty much everyone is now saying the election was legit.  No smoking gun from the fear based rhetoric.  

(Yes, I know Dems used fear based rhetoric calling him a Nazi.  J D Vance even called him the New Hitler if you remember.)

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But as Trump's win became apparent the following evening, claims about potential noncitizen voter fraud — a dominant message among Trump and his supporters this election season — mostly dried up online.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/08/nx-s1-5180044/trump-noncitizen-voting-social-media

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Tweety said:

If there is a silver lining pretty much everyone is now saying the election was legit.  No smoking gun from the fear based rhetoric.  

(Yes, I know Dems used fear based rhetoric calling him a Nazi.  J D Vance even called him the New Hitler if you remember.)

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/08/nx-s1-5180044/trump-noncitizen-voting-social-media

That irony is lost on the MAGA's.

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subee said:

That irony is lost on the MAGA's.

Nope. I was once a "Never Trumper" and like Vanse I started to realize the ridiculous propaganda used against Trump. Funny thing is, if the dems didn't over use,  exaggerated and misrepresent the man so many times, I may not have flipped my vote. But I digress. 

Like myself and Vance, we saw passed the rhetoric and apparently the rest of the nation did as well. You'll have a hard time "othering" the popular vote in to "MAGA".  I guess you haven't learned why and how Trump won. ......

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Tweety said:

If there is a silver lining pretty much everyone is now saying the election was legit.  No smoking gun from the fear based rhetoric.  

(Yes, I know Dems used fear based rhetoric calling him a Nazi.  J D Vance even called him the New Hitler if you remember.)

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/08/nx-s1-5180044/trump-noncitizen-voting-social-media

I think we learned that questioning an election was not acceptable in 2020? 

If people feel that it wasn't legit, by all means, say it. If government officials think there were fraudulent votes, investigate it. 

Just a fun thought. Perhaps there was fraudulent votes but some far left radicals left no room to investigate lest they be the new 'domestic terrorist " trying to "undermine a free and fair election" ?  They kind of set a precedent no? 

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Crusades said:

Just a fun thought. Perhaps there was fraudulent votes but some far left radicals left no room to investigate lest they be the new 'domestic terrorist " trying to "undermine a free and fair election" ?  They kind of set a precedent no? 

 

We all discussed four years ago that there has always been fraudulent voting.  I'm sure some will be uncovered this election.  It's never been on a significant scale.  Not four years ago, and surely not now.

The left set a precedent that that asked Trump and his followers to accept the results of a free and fair election for years ago.  They are exhibiting this behavior now.  

Certainly though if there were evidence that Trump stole the election and that Harris was the winner, they'd do everything legally possible to prove it.

I don't entertain "fun thoughts".  I'm more reality based.

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Beerman said:

Questioning the results of an election?? That's a threat to democracy.  

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Beerman said:

So what?  In elections this close, recounts are inevitable.  You can bet that if Casey lost, Trumpt would be out there asking for donations to pay for 100 recounts.

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