The Controversy: Mandatory Flu Vaccines

Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?

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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:

  • Sudden onset fever
  • Headache
  • Chills
  • Myalgia
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Stuffy nose
  • Loss of appetite
  • Limb or joint pain
  • Difficulty sleeping
  • Diarrhea or upset stomach

I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?

Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.

Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.

Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.

What is the purpose behind the push toward flu vaccines?

Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.

Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.

What hospitals have created a mandatory flu vaccine policy?

I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:

  • Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA) - since 2009
  • Children's Mercy Hospitals and Clinics (Kansas City, MO)
  • Children's Colorado (Aurora, CO)
  • Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters (Norfolk, VA)
  • Children's Medical Center Dallas (Dallas, TX) - since 2012
  • Riley Children's (Indianapolis, IN) - since 2012
  • East Tennessee Children's (Knoxville, TX) - since 2013
  • Boston Children's (Boston, MA)
  • Sharp Mary Birch Hospital for Women and Newborns (San Diego, CA) - since 2013
  • Roger Williams Medical Center (Providence, RI)
  • Brookwood Medical Center (Birmingham, AL)
  • Johns Hopkins (all hospitals/clinics) (Baltimore, MD)
  • Driscoll Children's Hospital (Corpus Christi, TX)
  • Spohn Health System (Corpus Christi / San Antonio, TX)
  • All Connecticut Hospitals

What are some reasons that people refuse the flu vaccine?

Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.

Common concerns and myths about the flu vaccination

(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)

The flu shot will give me the flu

The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.

I don't believe the flu vaccine actually works

Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.

I had the vaccination last year

You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.

What about possible adverse reactions

Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.

Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.

I'm not in a high-risk group

Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.

The flu vaccine made every year does not match the circulating flu strain

Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.

Knowledge is Power

All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.

Please respond to this article by answering the following questions:

  1. Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
  2. Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
  3. What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
  4. Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?

References

American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel

ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7

CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel

Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u

National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit

NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf

TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf

Specializes in critical care.
I thought so ten years ago, but, when I did get the flu vaccine thinking I didn't want to risk it, I then got the flu a few weeks after. Not good being asthmatic. I thought "Maybe I'm better off with Vitamin C" since I'd been taking it for colds and athma, "Maybe it'll help with the flu". I haven't had the flu since, though I had an episode of "flu-like" symptoms that only lasted an hour in the winter of 2012, after taking extra Vitamin C and my now "cold protocol"... ACV, honey and cinnamon asap, it was gone. So, that's how I treat myself now. Only one cold in 10 years, so, I think it's pretty good. :yes: Glad you'll look more into it.

Why do you keep only responding to posts partially? You just edited out the main point of my post, and didn't respond to it. This is the second time you've ignored part of my comments to you and responded to something less pertinent.

I also asked very specifically why you continue to refute what we say when you aren't taking the time to understand the cellular components of the claims you make.

Why do you keep only responding to posts partially? You just edited out the main point of my post, and didn't respond to it. This is the second time you've ignored part of my comments to you and responded to something less pertinent.

I also asked very specifically why you continue to refute what we say when you aren't taking the time to understand the cellular components of the claims you make.

Only because I thought I answered why when posting to macawake. I believe there's something off with what's taught concerning the body's digestion, immune system, pH, and other things like responding to vitamins (like C) as if it's not possible to process and be effective so quickly as I know it can. I think there's something off somewhere though I can't say what it is. Other doctors who are in vitamins and natural health, who are educated in your health, would probably be more capable in answering. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website, you might want to check out.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

Let get back to talking about influenza vaccines.

If you want to talk about vitamins, herbs, and the power of good thoughts, baking soda, honey, there is forum for that. Make a post there.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
The article linked is written by a Florida MD who sells supplements, and the "Dr. Levy" quoted repeatedly in the article is another "natural medicine" huckster with a website selling supplements. And is anyone else amused that the article is linked from a blog which found it on a website called "OpEd News"? Isn't that kind of an oxymoron??

Yeah...if you don't take that protocol your cold will last for a week. If you take it, it only lasts 7 days.

Specializes in Reproductive & Public Health.

This guy seems to think that germ theory is bunk because... not everyone who is exposed to a pathogen gets sick, i think? Very hard to read those walls of texts. "Did you know that there have been dozens of plague cases diagnosed in the southwest USA in recent years? Have you had your plague vaccination? Do you really think you need one? Then why hasn't it spread?" DoctorYourself.com - Germs

He also states there have been " not even one death caused by any dietary supplement in 2013, according to the most recent information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System . . . Furthermore, there were zero deaths from any dietary mineral supplement." No Deaths from ANY Dietary Supplement

Which is great, of course. But he fails to mention that iron is a leading cause of childhood poisoning, and it does lead to death in some cases. The very report he uses to claim vitamins/minerals are so safe shows 500+ moderate to severe sequelae from iron overdoses in children in 2013- https://aapcc.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/annual_reports/2013_NPDS_Annual_Report.pdf

MANY vitamins/minerals/supplements can be very dangerous at high doses. Sorry for the wikipedia link, but it's easier than citing a gazillion studies/papers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis

But at least he helpfully includes a link to buy his book at the end of each article.

Specializes in critical care.
Only because I thought I answered why when posting to macawake. I believe there's something off with what's taught concerning the body's digestion, immune system, pH, and other things like responding to vitamins (like C) as if it's not possible to process and be effective so quickly as I know it can. I think there's something off somewhere though I can't say what it is. Other doctors who are in vitamins and natural health, who are educated in your health, would probably be more capable in answering. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website, you might want to check out.

OH MY GRILLED CHEESUS YOU DID IT AGAIN. Are you serious?!

If you don't know what is "off", then perhaps our LICENSED AND RESEARCHED PROFESSIONAL EXPLANATIONS should be clueing you in.

Song break. Because for real.

Breathe, my friend. Just breathe.

Specializes in critical care.
Breathe, my friend. Just breathe.

I refuse to post that song. But now it's stuck in my head. *glares at you*

:)

OH MY GRILLED CHEESUS YOU DID IT AGAIN. Are you serious?!

If you don't know what is "off", then perhaps our LICENSED AND RESEARCHED PROFESSIONAL EXPLANATIONS should be clueing you in.

Song break. Because for real.

ROFL.....ixchel, you are where I was a few days ago when I had to duck out before my head exploded. There really is a maximum saturation point at which your brain can no longer tolerate utter crap :)

I don't get why y'all keep talking to these morons like they're reasonable people.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
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Don't be afraid to care

Leave but don't leave me

Look around, choose your own ground

For long you live and high you fly

And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry

And all your touch and all you see

Is all your life will ever be

Run rabbit run

Dig that hole, forget the sun

And when at last the work is done

Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one

For long you live and high you fly

But only if you ride the tide

And balanced on the biggest wave

You race towards an early grave

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