The Controversy: Mandatory Flu Vaccines

Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?

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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:

  • Sudden onset fever
  • Headache
  • Chills
  • Myalgia
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Stuffy nose
  • Loss of appetite
  • Limb or joint pain
  • Difficulty sleeping
  • Diarrhea or upset stomach

I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?

Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.

Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.

Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.

What is the purpose behind the push toward flu vaccines?

Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.

Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.

What hospitals have created a mandatory flu vaccine policy?

I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:

  • Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA) - since 2009
  • Children's Mercy Hospitals and Clinics (Kansas City, MO)
  • Children's Colorado (Aurora, CO)
  • Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters (Norfolk, VA)
  • Children's Medical Center Dallas (Dallas, TX) - since 2012
  • Riley Children's (Indianapolis, IN) - since 2012
  • East Tennessee Children's (Knoxville, TX) - since 2013
  • Boston Children's (Boston, MA)
  • Sharp Mary Birch Hospital for Women and Newborns (San Diego, CA) - since 2013
  • Roger Williams Medical Center (Providence, RI)
  • Brookwood Medical Center (Birmingham, AL)
  • Johns Hopkins (all hospitals/clinics) (Baltimore, MD)
  • Driscoll Children's Hospital (Corpus Christi, TX)
  • Spohn Health System (Corpus Christi / San Antonio, TX)
  • All Connecticut Hospitals

What are some reasons that people refuse the flu vaccine?

Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.

Common concerns and myths about the flu vaccination

(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)

The flu shot will give me the flu

The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.

I don't believe the flu vaccine actually works

Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.

I had the vaccination last year

You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.

What about possible adverse reactions

Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.

Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.

I'm not in a high-risk group

Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.

The flu vaccine made every year does not match the circulating flu strain

Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.

Knowledge is Power

All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.

Please respond to this article by answering the following questions:

  1. Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
  2. Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
  3. What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
  4. Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?

References

American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel

ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7

CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel

Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u

National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit

NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf

TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf

Murray, Terry. "Repeated flu shots may blunt effectiveness." CMAJ: Canadian Medical Association Journal 7 Apr. 2015: E180. Health Reference Center Academic. Web. 29 Aug. 2015.

URL

Health Reference Center Academic - Document - Repeated flu shots may blunt effectiveness

New Canadian studies suggest seasonal flu shot increased H1N1 risk | CIDRAP

Thanks.

Looks like they are talking about "Universal influenza immunization programs" vs. targeted vaccine programs. The headline gives the impression that flu shots in general may blunt effectiveness.

It goes on to state that we should get shots. And do it early.

The effects of repeat immunizations need to be studied further. Meanwhile, a return to targeted, high-risk flu vaccine programs, rather than universal coverage, seems warranted, said Skowronski, the BC centre's epidemiology lead for influenza and emerging respiratory pathogens.

At the same time, antivirals--formerly plan B in the primary prevention of influenza--should be used early. "There's a lot of debate about antivirals and that needs to be resolved also, but for now, [early antiviral use] should come to the fore," Skowronski said.

? I didn't leave it out...here...

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, however, reports that several studies have shown that there is no relationship between thimerosal and autism.

I just copied and pasted it again. I still don't find it credible! :)

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
Murray, Terry. "Repeated flu shots may blunt effectiveness." CMAJ: Canadian Medical Association Journal 7 Apr. 2015: E180. Health Reference Center Academic. Web. 29 Aug. 2015.

URL

Health Reference Center Academic - Document - Repeated flu shots may blunt effectiveness

New Canadian studies suggest seasonal flu shot increased H1N1 risk | CIDRAP

It's an interesting topic to study but no real study has been done on it. The article linked is an editorial based on extrapolated findings that were not statistically significant.

More research there is absolutely needed though based on the data.

Even if I were not in the medical field I would not allow anyone to put that crap into my body. These vaccines are not proven and some times it is not even the strain of flu that was predicted. Get on your soap box about vaccines but they are too risky. Besides if a nurse calls in sick it may be the only days they are going to get off. Stop pushing that stuff. You must work for a pharmaceutical company. Money grubbers.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
? I didn't leave it out...here...

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, however, reports that several studies have shown that there is no relationship between thimerosal and autism.

I just copied and pasted it again. I still don't find it credible! :)

You don't find the statement credible or the half dozen large studies on the topic the statement references credible? Have you ever read a single one of those studies? What makes you not find it credible?

Well, no, I don't find the CDC credible. There I said it :)

As far as "studies". There's always studies, and I've found a number of studies wrong, yet only accepted by conventional medicine. So, no, "studies" don't impress me either. For one, the substance has to hold up to what's acceptable in the living body, and none of those listed I believe are. It really doesn't matter what their "risk/benefit" opinion is.

Autism "just happens", is what you're saying?

What everyone is trying to explain to you is that they don't "happen" as a result of having received a vaccination.....obviously you are meaning the MMR, as that's the one that's trotted out anytime anyone has an axe to grind over vaccinations. And the MMR is ALSO the one that has been studied to DEATH as it relates to possible causation of Autism, and the result TIME AND TIME AGAIN is that there IS no correlation.

So yes....."autism just happens".....cystic fibrosis "just happens....pancreatic cancer "just happens". Crap happens. People are born with neurologic disorders....people develop illnesses.

MY child was a perfectly healthy infant, a perfectly healthy toddler, and continues to this day to be a perfectly healthy teenager. However....long BEFORE he ever received the MMR....to the discerning eye, he was ALSO autistic. If I hadn't known normal/typical development EXCEPTIONALLY well because of my job activities, I might well (as the parent alone) have missed the early signs. I might have thought the autism "happened" because of the MMR. But I know for a 100% fact that this was not true, as I recognized the signs of early autism before most parents normally would have. Plain and simple.

I am not presenting anecdotal evidence, I am using an example of WHY I have spent time researching this, READING the studies (and not just the parts I like). I wanted to see WHY there were people thumping the drum about MMR and autism....to see if maybe my own child's autism, while obviously NOT caused by the vaccination, was an exception (and the rule was that the vaccine was dangerous).

I read. I read CREDIBLE sources. I ignored crackpots and the discredited, the disreputable, and stuck with VALID sources of information. And it is now my position that one of the most dangerous things "forced" upon a child is a parent who is misinformed, uninformed, or simply ignorant, and exposes that child to diseases because of that parent's inability to separate fact from fiction. THAT is sad, and so very dangerous to so many children.

That is not true, I worked in yhe immunization clinic. We toldpeople your chances of getting the flu has been lowered but if you do get the flu it will be a mild form. Well, that is a load of bull. The injection may not have the exact strain that is coming through or the virus has mutated to resist the immunity. Thanks I'll pass and take my chances. Get 8 hours of sleep drink fluids and take vitamins and by all means stay away fr stress. You know, the people that are pushing the poisonous flu vaccine.

Even if I were not in the medical field I would not allow anyone to put that crap into my body. These vaccines are not proven and some times it is not even the strain of flu that was predicted. Get on your soap box about vaccines but they are too risky. Besides if a nurse calls in sick it may be the only days they are going to get off. Stop pushing that stuff. You must work for a pharmaceutical company. Money grubbers.

They are proven. You just aren't paying attention.

No one responding works for a pharmaceutical company any more than YOU do. Not a dime earned via vaccinations, sorry to break it to you.

I once met an LPN who believed that the way to avoid the flu was to just dress warmly during flu season and not go outside with wet hair. Lack of education was stunning....NO idea how some people manage to get licenses...

Autism "just happens", is what you're saying? No indication whatsoever before, but right after, and, it happens not in just one, but many. We're not talking about a cold, or any other childhood disease, we're talking about an entire behavioral change. Apparently, "science" needs to get it's act together and stop presuming so many things, like who's "healthy" and who isn't as well. Why are presumptions allowed at all? Anyone can take a vaccine if they trust them. The issue is forcing an invasive procedure on others against their judgement.

No, I never said "Autism just happens". . . .Like willy nilly. Where did you get that? You could call that a presumption.

Research has been going on for over 20 years and most of it is pointing to a genetic marker.

....There is no known single cause for autism spectrum disorder, but it is generally accepted that it is caused by abnormalities in brain structure or function. Brain scans show differences in the shape and structure of the brain in children with autism compared to in neurotypical children. Researchers do not know the exact cause of autism but are investigating a number of theories, including the links among heredity, genetics and medical problems.In many families, there appears to be a pattern of autism or related disabilities, further supporting the theory that the disorder has a genetic basis......

The characteristic behaviors of autism spectrum disorder may be apparent in infancy (18 to 24 months), but they usually become clearer during early childhood (24 months to 6 years).

As part of a well-baby or well-child visit, your child's doctor should perform a developmental screening,” asking specific questions about your baby's progress. The National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) lists five behaviors that warrant further evaluation:

  • Does not babble or coo by 12 months
  • Does not gesture (point, wave, grasp) by 12 months
  • Does not say single words by 16 months
  • Does not say two-word phrases on his or her own by 24 months
  • Has any loss of any language or social skill at any age

I've already posted this:

Over the last two decades, extensive research has asked whether there is any link between childhood vaccinations and autism. The results of this research are clear: Vaccines do not cause autism. We urge that all children be fully vaccinated.

Rob Ring

Chief Science Officer, Autism Speaks

Over the last two decades extensive research has asked whether there is any link between childhood vaccines and autism. Scientific research has not directly connected autism to vaccines. Vaccines are very important. Parents must make the decision whether to vaccinate their children. Efforts must be continually made to educate parents about vaccine safety. If parents decide not to vaccinate they must be aware of the consequences in their community and their local schools.

Bob Wright

Co-founder, Autism Speaks

Specializes in Long Term Acute Care, TCU.
"Guillain-Barrésyndrome (GBS) is the most common cause of acute flaccid paralysis worldwide, and is thought to be immune-mediated. It is preceded by upper respiratory or gastrointestinal infection in about two-thirds of cases and is associated with some viral infections, including influenza. GBS has also been associated with the 1976 swine-influenza vaccine. Thereafter, some studies have shown a small increased risk of GBS following receipt of seasonal and 2009 H1N1 monovalent influenza vaccines. Studies over the years have also shown an increased risk of GBS following influenza infection, and the magnitude of risk is several times greater than that following influenza vaccination. Because GBS is rare, and even rarer following vaccination, it is difficult to estimate precise risk. We try to shed light on the complex relationship of GBS and its association with influenza and influenza vaccines over the past 35 years."

Vellozzi, C., Iqbal, S., & Broder, K. (2014). Guillain-Barré syndrome, influenza, and influenza vaccination: the epidemiologic evidence. Clinical infectious diseases, 58(8), 1149-1155.

People who get the shot still get the flu. I don't think anyone argues that that has any scientific background. Antigenic shift is the largest of many reasons that is true. Many more get flu-like illness. Nothing is 100%, in fact, the vaccine is more like 50%.

Vaccination rates for influenza are far too low for herd immunity. That is very simple to calculate. So if 32% of lab-confirmed cases of influenza resulting in hospitalization had the flu shot that means wat percentage didn't get the flu shot? Think there would have been less overall cases if the vaccination rate was 100% based on what you just stated?

And can you cite your sources please so we can read them?

Elsevier: Article Locator

Effectiveness of Seasonal Vaccine in Preventing Confirmed Influenza-Associated Hospitalizations in Community Dwelling Older Adults

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2011/10/documents/flu.pdf

Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2005-2015 | Health Professionals | Seasonal Influenza (Flu)

Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine

What everyone is trying to explain to you is that they don't "happen" as a result of having received a vaccination.....obviously you are meaning the MMR, as that's the one that's trotted out anytime anyone has an axe to grind over vaccinations. And the MMR is ALSO the one that has been studied to DEATH as it relates to possible causation of Autism, and the result TIME AND TIME AGAIN is that there IS no correlation.

So yes....."autism just happens".....cystic fibrosis "just happens....pancreatic cancer "just happens". Crap happens. People are born with neurologic disorders....people develop illnesses.

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That's a good way to put it. I was responding to what I thought the poster was saying that if a vaccine didn't cause autism, then autism just magically appears.

It definitely isn't magic. The research shows it to be a neurological disorder that starts in infancy but people miss the signs. Coincidentally, we start to get immunized in infancy.

Correlation does not equal causation. If that were the case I could say changing from breast milk to solid food at around six months causes autism.