The Controversy: Mandatory Flu Vaccines

Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?

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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:

  • Sudden onset fever
  • Headache
  • Chills
  • Myalgia
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Stuffy nose
  • Loss of appetite
  • Limb or joint pain
  • Difficulty sleeping
  • Diarrhea or upset stomach

I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?

Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.

Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.

Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.

What is the purpose behind the push toward flu vaccines?

Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.

Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.

What hospitals have created a mandatory flu vaccine policy?

I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:

  • Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA) - since 2009
  • Children's Mercy Hospitals and Clinics (Kansas City, MO)
  • Children's Colorado (Aurora, CO)
  • Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters (Norfolk, VA)
  • Children's Medical Center Dallas (Dallas, TX) - since 2012
  • Riley Children's (Indianapolis, IN) - since 2012
  • East Tennessee Children's (Knoxville, TX) - since 2013
  • Boston Children's (Boston, MA)
  • Sharp Mary Birch Hospital for Women and Newborns (San Diego, CA) - since 2013
  • Roger Williams Medical Center (Providence, RI)
  • Brookwood Medical Center (Birmingham, AL)
  • Johns Hopkins (all hospitals/clinics) (Baltimore, MD)
  • Driscoll Children's Hospital (Corpus Christi, TX)
  • Spohn Health System (Corpus Christi / San Antonio, TX)
  • All Connecticut Hospitals

What are some reasons that people refuse the flu vaccine?

Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.

Common concerns and myths about the flu vaccination

(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)

The flu shot will give me the flu

The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.

I don't believe the flu vaccine actually works

Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.

I had the vaccination last year

You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.

What about possible adverse reactions

Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.

Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.

I'm not in a high-risk group

Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.

The flu vaccine made every year does not match the circulating flu strain

Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.

Knowledge is Power

All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.

Please respond to this article by answering the following questions:

  1. Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
  2. Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
  3. What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
  4. Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?

References

American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel

ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7

CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel

Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u

National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit

NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf

TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf

I doubt the Chief of "Autism Speaks" wants to put himself out of a job. I mean, just sayin' :)

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Case in point a child brought to see physician by parent who wanted "drug tests" on said child. He MUST be on drugs...he's ACTING like he's on drugs....Mom doesn't like his friends...please read the child the riot act for being an idiot and experimenting with drugs! Except for one thing: child NOT on drugs....child sent to neurologist....child determined to have a MEDICAL explanation for behavior changes (that necessitated treatment to resolve). Mommy "just knew" her kid was on drugs....except she didn't know crap as to why, and thankfully (eventually) let the doctors who COULD diagnose the problem do just that.

Article about the Bioethics of tricky Informed Consent. Medical Research Stakeholders Seek to Overturn Informed Consent Protection | AHRP In the article it states that lack of strong or clear informed consent for studies that carry risk to the subject is unethical. I strongly believe that facilities who mandate the flu vaccination under coercion of job loss are unethical, because the consent is being obtained under a form of duress, thereby making it a tricky/dishonest way to obtain said informed consent. The flu vaccination carries a measure of risk, as disclosed by the manufacturers; hence mandating something that carries risks to the subjects, especially under duress,is medically unethical. Clear informed consent not subject to duress nor deception is the only ethical way.

Specializes in ER.
Nurses like you always baffle me. How can one work in a field that requires so much use of common sense and so much scientific education and understand and yet clearly still not use science or common sense when approaching whatever the conspiracy of the day is? I have yet to meet a nurse that's a young earth creationist but this is along the same lines.

PLEASE use the quote function. I have no idea who you are talking to.

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
Article about the Bioethics of tricky Informed Consent. Medical Research Stakeholders Seek to Overturn Informed Consent Protection | AHRP In the article it states that lack of strong or clear informed consent for studies that carry risk to the subject is unethical. I strongly believe that facilities who mandate the flu vaccination under coercion of job loss are unethical, because the consent is being obtained under a form of duress, thereby making it a tricky/dishonest way to obtain said informed consent. The flu vaccination carries a measure of risk, as disclosed by the manufacturers; hence mandating something that carries risks to the subjects, especially under duress,is medically unethical. Clear informed consent not subject to duress nor deception is the only ethical way.

There is no duress when vaccination is a condition of employment. A staff member agrees to follow agency policies when hired. The employee can choose to continue to work at that agency or not. In my experience, wearing a mask has always been an option. As far as having to use vacation days instead of sick days, my hospital lumps them altogether anyway.

Personally I am opposed to influenza vaccines being mandatory for non risk people.

I for one cannot take the vaccine due to the severity of reaction to it. I will not take a vaccine that makes me ill enough to seek medical attention. Everyone needs to weigh the benefits against their personal risks, and not make our employer big brother.

Our facility tried last year to make influenza shots mandatory. Several nurses started a campaign to first and foremost vaccinate the high risk individuals we work with. Once that was done. Supplying the STAFF AND VISITORS with hand sanitizers, educational pamphlets, and limiting those with symptoms in our building we were able to keep everyone safer than mandating staff vaccinations. We did not have a single case of influenza last year.

On our staff alone, we have three nurses who have allergies to components of the vaccine, just on one shift. So, we would not be able to fulfill that requirement anyway, and had to find another way to protect everyone. We went back to the basics of good hand washing, good nutrition, educating those around us, and good old fashion common sense.

It's clear to me that leftflank pain and rusti1 (who don't seem to even be RNs) are avid anti-Vaxers here just to push their misinformed, conspiracy-driven, fear-mongering message that all vaccines are evil, and anyone in any way associated with them is just a "big pharma shill".

Sadly most anti-Vaxers of this type are so entrenched in their erroneous and quite frankly dangerous anti-science beliefs that it is almost useless to attempt to debate them with facts and science. If you attempt to do so, they will reject all contrary, science-backed info presented simply because in their extremely backward and frightening version of the world, expertise and education mean nothing (and in fact are highly suspect) when weighed against specious anecdotal "evidence" and Google University. They provide perfect real life examples of things like the Dunning-Kruger effect and confirmation bias.

I applaud everyone on this forum who has attempted to educate them - but I definitely don't anticipate anyone here being successful. Knowing that this small yet vocal population is present and growing really scares me as an RN - on both a personal and professional level, given the real threat they and they misguided beliefs pose to me, my loved ones, and public health in general.

What everyone is trying to explain to you is that they don't "happen" as a result of having received a vaccination.....obviously you are meaning the MMR, as that's the one that's trotted out anytime anyone has an axe to grind over vaccinations. And the MMR is ALSO the one that has been studied to DEATH as it relates to possible causation of Autism, and the result TIME AND TIME AGAIN is that there IS no correlation.

So yes....."autism just happens".....cystic fibrosis "just happens....pancreatic cancer "just happens". Crap happens. People are born with neurologic disorders....people develop illnesses.

MY child was a perfectly healthy infant, a perfectly healthy toddler, and continues to this day to be a perfectly healthy teenager. However....long BEFORE he ever received the MMR....to the discerning eye, he was ALSO autistic. If I hadn't known normal/typical development EXCEPTIONALLY well because of my job activities, I might well (as the parent alone) have missed the early signs. I might have thought the autism "happened" because of the MMR. But I know for a 100% fact that this was not true, as I recognized the signs of early autism before most parents normally would have. Plain and simple.

I am not presenting anecdotal evidence, I am using an example of WHY I have spent time researching this, READING the studies (and not just the parts I like). I wanted to see WHY there were people thumping the drum about MMR and autism....to see if maybe my own child's autism, while obviously NOT caused by the vaccination, was an exception (and the rule was that the vaccine was dangerous).

I read. I read CREDIBLE sources. I ignored crackpots and the discredited, the disreputable, and stuck with VALID sources of information. And it is now my position that one of the most dangerous things "forced" upon a child is a parent who is misinformed, uninformed, or simply ignorant, and exposes that child to diseases because of that parent's inability to separate fact from fiction. THAT is sad, and so very dangerous to so many children.

While I totally respect your capability and opinion on what's relevant to your own experience, I would hope you will respect others and theirs. Alleging other parent's dangerous to their own children because they don't trust vaccines is going a little too far I would say. I actually had measles, mumps and chicken pox, and I know how mild they actually are (except to maybe malnourished children who need real food and nourishment). They're not the scourge of humanity as they are portrayed to sell vaccines. I do know how well vitamins work for immunity building, so, how do you know what those parents know? You don't. Presumptions are usually what I hear from pro-vaxxers, for no reason but to make others "guilty" not to obey their demand. It's their children, not yours...the same as it's your child, not anyone else's.

Specializes in Long Term Acute Care, TCU.

What I'd like to know is how the people feel about clones and GMOs being injected into their body. Myself, I do not like it.

I will likely get the flu shot this year, along with any boosters that I need. However, I won't like the fact that I am a willing guinea pig in the biggest unethical experiment being conducted on an American population.

It's clear to me that leftflank pain and rusti1 (who don't seem to even be RNs) are avid anti-Vaxers here just to push their misinformed, conspiracy-driven, fear-mongering message that all vaccines are evil, and anyone in any way associated with them is just a "big pharma shill".

Sadly most anti-Vaxers of this type are so entrenched in their erroneous and quite frankly dangerous anti-science beliefs that it is almost useless to attempt to debate them with facts and science. If you attempt to do so, they will reject all contrary, science-backed info presented simply because in their extremely backward and frightening version of the world, expertise and education mean nothing (and in fact are highly suspect) when weighed against specious anecdotal "evidence" and Google University. They provide perfect real life examples of things like the Dunning-Kruger effect and confirmation bias.

I applaud everyone on this forum who has attempted to educate them - but I definitely don't anticipate anyone here being successful. Knowing that this small yet vocal population is present and growing really scares me as an RN - on both a personal and professional level, given the real threat they and they misguided beliefs pose to me, my loved ones, and public health in general.

Actually, the "fear mongering" is from pro-vaxxers. We're only defending that others have their own ideas of what health is, and what's acceptable to be injected in them and their own children, and should not be "fear mongered" into anything. No one is preventing you or anyone else from taking any and all vaccines you see fit.

Specializes in ER.

I don't get the vaccine. I DID get it for a couple years and then started wondering about the effects of being vaccinated yearly. I know the flu strains change yearly. They add substances to improve your immune response to the vaccine, and there are all the additives that some people are concerned about. I think we'll need about 20 years of data before I feel safe about that. I have no issues with getting the Q10year immunizations- yearly is too much risk for me. (If it was just a matter of injecting me with the flu virus only I would have no issues) We have occasional GBS cases, and then there was a report of a new illness attached to flu vaccines. It's going to take time to find out all the possible issues with yearly vaccinations.

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There have been no double blind studies on flu/death prevention after getting flu shot, we only have very sketchy information on "flu like illnesses," I'm not riding the guilt trip that so many hospital administrators have tried to sell us. Reviewing the research hasn't made me feel strongly one way or the other about flu vaccines actually preventing illness. The fact that a study could be easily done, but hasn't been makes me suspicious.

I notice that we're getting a lot of propaganda about ALWAYS getting your flu shot, and the push is out of proportion to the benefits. It's a money train I'm seeing, not a lifesaving effort. I'm not saying I'll never get the shot, I look for more information yearly and make my decision.

I think there are thoughtful intelligent people on both sides of this debate. I hate wading through the fearmongering and holier than thou. (on both sides) We've got to treat individual decisions with respect FIRST before trying to convince people to agree.

I don't agree that signing on to nursing should remove my right to choose, or my right to be comfortable with an intervention. The option of mask vrs vaccine would be fine with me, if the mask actually helped. Since we all know it's like spitting in a rainstorm I have to conclude that forcing people to use a mask is just a power play. In theory I'd quit if I was treated like a child in my workplace, but in practice I might just wear the stupid mask and pick my battles. I'm still thinking on that one.

It's clear to me that leftflank pain and rusti1 (who don't seem to even be RNs) are avid anti-Vaxers here just to push their misinformed, conspiracy-driven, fear-mongering message that all vaccines are evil, and anyone in any way associated with them is just a "big pharma shill".

Sadly most anti-Vaxers of this type are so entrenched in their erroneous and quite frankly dangerous anti-science beliefs that it is almost useless to attempt to debate them with facts and science. If you attempt to do so, they will reject all contrary, science-backed info presented simply because in their extremely backward and frightening version of the world, expertise and education mean nothing (and in fact are highly suspect) when weighed against specious anecdotal "evidence" and Google University. They provide perfect real life examples of things like the Dunning-Kruger effect and confirmation bias.

I applaud everyone on this forum who has attempted to educate them - but I definitely don't anticipate anyone here being successful. Knowing that this small yet vocal population is present and growing really scares me as an RN - on both a personal and professional level, given the real threat they and they misguided beliefs pose to me, my loved ones, and public health in general.

Not necessary for you to be inflammatory and make personal attacks. There can be a respect for many opinions here without resorting to childish polarizing tactics. I am actually quite well educated with degrees in not just Nursing, but in several other fields, which has given me the ability to respect and entertain thoughts, theories and ideas from all kinds of perspectives without feeling threatened by them. Hurling the same insults back your way would be easy, yet is a violation of terms and conditions of these forums and i wont stoop to that level. Your respect for the opinions of others that has been extended your way is greatly appreciated.