Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?
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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:
I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?
Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.
Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.
Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.
Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.
Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.
I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:
Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.
(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)
The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.
Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.
You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.
Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.
Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.
Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.
Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.
All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.
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References
American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel
ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7
CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC
Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel
Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u
National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit
NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf
TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf
Actually, the "fear mongering" is from pro-vaxxers. We're only defending that others have their own ideas of what health is, and what's acceptable to be injected in them and their own children, and should not be "fear mongered" into anything. No one is preventing you or anyone else from taking any and all vaccines you see fit.
I agree.
My workplace has recently made it mandatory for all new hires to accept the flu vaccine. This is discussed in the interview and written in the conditions of employment letter that the new employee signs.
Before they implemented the mandatory vaccine, the employer discussed with unions and the labour board. As it stands, anyone who refuses the vaccine will not be hired.
I always receive the vaccine so it makes no difference that it is now mandatory.
I apologize if you see my remarks as "inflammatory" but I do not. I always make it a point to be respectful of the opinions of others, but this particular debate really infuriates me because this is not just a simple matter of opinion. It is a public health matter, and declining vaccination rates very much put people in danger-particularly young and/or immunocompromised people. The fact that you are an RN and don't see this is worrisome-and, quite frankly, infuriating as well.
While nothing in this world is 100% certain, the incredible amount of research supporting the safety and efficacy of vaccines clearly trumps the opinions of people who don't believe in vaccines simply because they are convinced it is part of some greater "conspiracy".
1)__ Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)? Yes, every year.
2)__ Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work? Yes, Phoenix, AZ
3)__ What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine? Will we see a need for additional vaccine(s) this year.
4)__ Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine? No, I have not.
joycejoycean said:1)__ Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)? Yes, every year.2)__ Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work? Yes, Phoenix, AZ
3)__ What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine? Will we see a need for additional vaccine(s) this year.
4)__ Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine? No, I have not.
Thank you for getting this thread back on track after being severely hijacked. Which, BTW, is extremely rude. You know who you are, make your own thread.
1. Yes. I have severe asthma and the flu could kill me. And thank you to all of you who help
protect me by getting yours.
2. Yes. Get the shot or get another job. Enormous university hospital in the Midwest.
3. None
4. Nope.
I apologize if you see my remarks as "inflammatory" but I do not. I always make it a point to be respectful of the opinions of others, but this particular debate really infuriates me because this is not just a simple matter of opinion. It is a public health matter, and declining vaccination rates very much put people in danger-particularly young and/or immunocompromised people. The fact that you are an RN and don't see this is worrisome-and, quite frankly, infuriating as well.While nothing in this world is 100% certain, the incredible amount of research supporting the safety and efficacy of vaccines clearly trumps the opinions of people who don't believe in vaccines simply because they are convinced it is part of some greater "conspiracy".
Research supporting the safety and efficacy by the people who put them out? Ummm, I don't think so. The issue here is your forceful opinion of science and health on others, to the point of being fascist in fact with invasive medicine, as if we're to obey your claimed all knowing authority. Conspiracies happen don't they. Acting as if it's unheard of is rather naive, but, that's not why I wouldn't take a vaccine. Give us a little credit? I won't take a flu vaccine because the last time I had a flu vaccine, a few weeks later I had the flu, and having asthma it was no fun. So, I no longer have the flu vaccine, and I no longer have had the flu. I do support those who have their own minds to decide in a free country that is. It's disconcerting and dangerous to hear such accusations and fear-mongering as you speak. Insisting others put their own children up for experimentation in order that hypothetically some other child somewhere might not get the measles is far from "science"...it's lunacy if you actually want the truth.
Re: Mommy "just knew" her kid was on drugs....except she didn't know crap as to why, and thankfully (eventually) let the doctors who COULD diagnose the problem do just that.Okay, what she didn't know is why the child had the behavior change, but, she knew there was one, and there had to be a reason. If her child was 6 months old, I doubt she'd accuse him/her of "being on drugs", but, she would know something changed, and something affected her child (a vaccine maybe?).
You did not understand my point. I was referring to your statement that "parents know their child's behaviors better than anyone" and you were most decidedly linking those behavioral changes with having received a vaccination.
My point was that while a parent may well know his/her child's behaviors better than anyone else, they usually do NOT know WHY those behaviors have changed....and to say "it's the vaccine!!" when the evidence is rather stacked against that possibility is foolish.
My point was that the mother I'm using as an example was danged sure her kid was on drugs because of a behavioral change. She was absolutely 100% WRONG, but hey, let's not stop her being WRONG from making a charge, right? It's exactly equivalent to YOUR example of a mother of a six-month-old declaring "it was the vaccine!!" when there was ZERO evidence to make such a charge. Holding her GUESSWORK up as EVIDENCE is foolhardy at best, stupid at worst.
So yes, THANKFULLY the mother in the story I used DID allow the neurologist to diagnose her kid, and stopped looking THE WRONG WAY for answers. Much like those who stomp around pointing fingers at vaccinations as causing "injury" to their children....children who would likely benefit from those parents looking ELSEWHERE for the problem.
Get it now?
concerned lady
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Dear BostonFNP,
Here are some replies to some of your questions:
You wrote: "How exactly do you know that the seizures and autism came from the vaccines?"
My reply: There are additional causes (etiologies) in addition to vaccines, for seizures and autism (toxic environmental factors, gluten sensitivity, brain damage, etc. etc.), but SOMETIMES, some vaccines' ingredients DO apparently cause seizures and autism.
When someone runs in front of a car, and gets killed, some would say--It wasn't the car that killed that person--It was just "his/her" time to have a fatal heart attack. So, it was just a "coincidence" that the person died when being hit by that car...
An analogy to that, is this: When a normal healthy child regresses and becomes autistic &/or has seizures shortly after receiving a vaccination, I trust parents' observations, when they clearly see CAUSE & EFFECT relating to the vaccine(s) just given to their previously normal and healthy child!
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You wrote: "Dr. Thompson and Dr. Hooker have been thoroughly discredited."
My reply: I would like to hear exactly what Dr. William Thompson, phD, senior scientist at the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) has to say, when he testifies before the U.S. Congress, as a "whistleblower". Have you heard him speak, yourself, yet? Or, are you appealing to "authorities", rather than making up your own mind, after hearing what he has to say?
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You wrote: "Do you have and scientific references? Or just blogs?"
My reply: I urge you and others to read and ponder these links, which have many scientific references in them:
National Vaccine Information Center - Your Health. Your Family. Your Choice.
VaxTruth.org | Home
Merck Has Some Explaining To Do Over Its MMR Vaccine Claims | Lawrence Solomon
Why the Press Shouldn't Dismiss Vaccine Skeptics | Lawrence Solomon
CDC Scientist Still Maintains Agency Forced Researchers To Lie About Safety Of Mercury Based Vaccines
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I try not to "assume" that what authorities say, is always correct. I've watched mal-practice, by physicians in hospitals, leading to deaths, so I'm not that cavalier anymore. To me, it's good to question authority.
Keep asking questions!
Sincerely, Carol Sidofsky
website: "Can't Breathe? Suspect Vocal Cord Dysfunction!"