The Controversy: Mandatory Flu Vaccines

Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?

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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:

  • Sudden onset fever
  • Headache
  • Chills
  • Myalgia
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Stuffy nose
  • Loss of appetite
  • Limb or joint pain
  • Difficulty sleeping
  • Diarrhea or upset stomach

I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?

Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.

Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.

Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.

What is the purpose behind the push toward flu vaccines?

Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.

Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.

What hospitals have created a mandatory flu vaccine policy?

I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:

  • Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA) - since 2009
  • Children's Mercy Hospitals and Clinics (Kansas City, MO)
  • Children's Colorado (Aurora, CO)
  • Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters (Norfolk, VA)
  • Children's Medical Center Dallas (Dallas, TX) - since 2012
  • Riley Children's (Indianapolis, IN) - since 2012
  • East Tennessee Children's (Knoxville, TX) - since 2013
  • Boston Children's (Boston, MA)
  • Sharp Mary Birch Hospital for Women and Newborns (San Diego, CA) - since 2013
  • Roger Williams Medical Center (Providence, RI)
  • Brookwood Medical Center (Birmingham, AL)
  • Johns Hopkins (all hospitals/clinics) (Baltimore, MD)
  • Driscoll Children's Hospital (Corpus Christi, TX)
  • Spohn Health System (Corpus Christi / San Antonio, TX)
  • All Connecticut Hospitals

What are some reasons that people refuse the flu vaccine?

Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.

Common concerns and myths about the flu vaccination

(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)

The flu shot will give me the flu

The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.

I don't believe the flu vaccine actually works

Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.

I had the vaccination last year

You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.

What about possible adverse reactions

Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.

Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.

I'm not in a high-risk group

Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.

The flu vaccine made every year does not match the circulating flu strain

Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.

Knowledge is Power

All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.

Please respond to this article by answering the following questions:

  1. Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
  2. Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
  3. What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
  4. Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?

References

American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel

ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7

CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel

Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u

National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit

NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf

TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf

"According to the FDA, the inactive ingredients in the flu vaccine are egg protein, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate and thimerosal. Two of these inactive ingredients have been suspected of causing adverse reactions The American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology states that 1.6 percent of children have an allergy to egg protein and therefore might not be able to receive the vaccine---ask your doctor about other vaccination options. Thimerosal is an organic mercury-containing compound that is believed by some to cause autism in children who receive vaccines. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, however, reports that several studies have shown that there is no relationship between thimerosal and autism.

Alert your doctor before taking this vaccine if you are allergic to these ingredients. [h=2]FluMist[/h] FluMist is a nasal spray developed by MedImmune. The major difference between FluMist and the traditional flu shot is that FluMist contains a live attenuated (or weakened) virus as its active ingredient, according to the U.S. Food & Drug Administration. Live, but weakened viruses allow better immunity to the flu than dead viruses. In addition, the FDA states that FluMist contains monosodium glutamate (MSG), hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, arginine, sucrose, dibasic potassium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, and gentamicin sulfate. Do alert your doctor if you have allergies to any of these other ingredients.

Flu Vaccine Ingredients | LIVESTRONG.COM

I personally wouldn't want these injected in me.

The attitude with the flu shot is like some sort of religious trial. If you don't get the shot and you get the flu, then it is your fault for having sinned by not getting the flu shot. If you do get the shot and STILL get the Flu, then it is because you did something wrong (again, you sinned).

There is no winning with those who support the Flu shot despite no direct evidence that it is effective. The science to support it is sketchy at best. Even CDC studies have concluded that out of those who are hospitalized with flu like symptoms, 32% received the flu shot. How is that in any way effective? You can't even make the argument for "Herd immunity" with those stats.

Oh, and for all of those that receive the flu shot annually, there is mounting evidence that immunity decreases with each successive immunization for the flu

Would you please quote the post that said if you don't get an influenza vaccine and then you get the flu, then you have "sinned". I must have missed that one.

There is copious "direct evidence" that the flu shot works. No one said it is close to 100% but some % is better than none. Some years it is lower due to the way the viruses mutate. Some years it is over 50% easy . . . .even more.

Link me to the actual scientific evidence of your last statement. And don't use the links we've already said were debunked.

"According to the FDA, the inactive ingredients in the flu vaccine are egg protein, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate and thimerosal. Two of these inactive ingredients have been suspected of causing adverse reactions The American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology states that 1.6 percent of children have an allergy to egg protein and therefore might not be able to receive the vaccine---ask your doctor about other vaccination options. Thimerosal is an organic mercury-containing compound that is believed by some to cause autism in children who receive vaccines. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, however, reports that several studies have shown that there is no relationship between thimerosal and autism.

Alert your doctor before taking this vaccine if you are allergic to these ingredients. FluMist

FluMist is a nasal spray developed by MedImmune. The major difference between FluMist and the traditional flu shot is that FluMist contains a live attenuated (or weakened) virus as its active ingredient, according to the U.S. Food & Drug Administration. Live, but weakened viruses allow better immunity to the flu than dead viruses. In addition, the FDA states that FluMist contains monosodium glutamate (MSG), hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, arginine, sucrose, dibasic potassium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, and gentamicin sulfate. Do alert your doctor if you have allergies to any of these other ingredients.

Flu Vaccine Ingredients | LIVESTRONG.COM

I personally wouldn't want these injected in me.

You left out a sentence . . . you can't cherry-pick and leave out information stating the opposite of what you post.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, however, reports that several studies have shown that there is no relationship between thimerosal and autism.

There have been hundreds of studies disproving that link. Here are two links from Autism organizations.

Over the last two decades, extensive research has asked whether there is any link between childhood vaccinations and autism. The results of this research are clear: Vaccines do not cause autism. We urge that all children be fully vaccinated.

Rob Ring

Chief Science Officer, Autism Speaks

http://www.autismsciencefoundation.org/autismandvaccines.html

https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/policy-statements/information-about-vaccines-and-autism

My teenage son didn't want the shot and he chose FluMist and had no ill effects. (Acknowledged anecdotal).

I'd give it to him in a heartbeat.:up:

I didn't leave it out. I just don't find it credible, sorry. Why behavioral changes after vaccines yet "healthy" and normal before is not explained, and, the growing number of cases that were rare at one time, along with other physical problems that just so happen after vaccines as well, and sadly, I've read many. I wouldn't accept it if it were my child. Parents know the changes in their children better than anyone.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
AIf a vaccine is given to a baby, child or anyone one who is determined "healthy" before, yet all kinds of behavioral changes and horrendous effects afterwards, something is off somewhere. Denial seems to be the only thing from "science" regarding it.

Yes. There is absolutely no other reason why a previously healthy person would get sick, other than from whatever vaccine that person received in the recent or remote past. The fact 97% of VAERS reported events are not related to a vaccine must be conspiracy because healthy people don't get sick ever.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
0.7 occurrences/million X 130 million (approximate)= 91 cases of serious adverse side effects (likely Guillian Barre)on an annual basis and that is just the ones that are reported. Many are likely not reported. The actual incidence of unintended side effects is probably closer to 5% and not the 1% that are reported. Unfortunately, most practitioners will dismiss the idea that your symptoms are related to the flu shot.

The attitude with the flu shot is like some sort of religious trial. If you don't get the shot and you get the flu, then it is your fault for having sinned by not getting the flu shot. If you do get the shot and STILL get the Flu, then it is because you did something wrong (again, you sinned).

There is no winning with those who support the Flu shot despite no direct evidence that it is effective. The science to support it is sketchy at best. Even CDC studies have concluded that out of those who are hospitalized with flu like symptoms, 32% received the flu shot. How is that in any way effective? You can't even make the argument for "Herd immunity" with those stats.

Oh, and for all of those that receive the flu shot annually, there is mounting evidence that immunity decreases with each successive immunization for the flu

"Guillain-Barrésyndrome (GBS) is the most common cause of acute flaccid paralysis worldwide, and is thought to be immune-mediated. It is preceded by upper respiratory or gastrointestinal infection in about two-thirds of cases and is associated with some viral infections, including influenza. GBS has also been associated with the 1976 swine-influenza vaccine. Thereafter, some studies have shown a small increased risk of GBS following receipt of seasonal and 2009 H1N1 monovalent influenza vaccines. Studies over the years have also shown an increased risk of GBS following influenza infection, and the magnitude of risk is several times greater than that following influenza vaccination. Because GBS is rare, and even rarer following vaccination, it is difficult to estimate precise risk. We try to shed light on the complex relationship of GBS and its association with influenza and influenza vaccines over the past 35 years."

Vellozzi, C., Iqbal, S., & Broder, K. (2014). Guillain-Barré syndrome, influenza, and influenza vaccination: the epidemiologic evidence. Clinical infectious diseases, 58(8), 1149-1155.

People who get the shot still get the flu. I don't think anyone argues that that has any scientific background. Antigenic shift is the largest of many reasons that is true. Many more get flu-like illness. Nothing is 100%, in fact, the vaccine is more like 50%.

Vaccination rates for influenza are far too low for herd immunity. That is very simple to calculate. So if 32% of lab-confirmed cases of influenza resulting in hospitalization had the flu shot that means wat percentage didn't get the flu shot? Think there would have been less overall cases if the vaccination rate was 100% based on what you just stated?

And can you cite your sources please so we can read them?

I didn't leave it out. I just don't find it credible, sorry. Why behavioral changes after vaccines yet "healthy" and normal before is not explained, and, the growing number of cases that were rare at one time, along with other physical problems that just so happen after vaccines as well, and sadly, I've read many. I wouldn't accept it if it were my child. Parents know the changes in their children better than anyone.

So, you WILL copy and paste part of a website that has info you agree with and then leave out the sentence following what you copied and pasted because you don't agree with it.

Regardless of whether you believe it or not, you conveniently left it out.

Specializes in Long Term Acute Care, TCU.
Would you please quote the post that said if you don't get an influenza vaccine and then you get the flu, then you have "sinned". I must have missed that one.

There is copious "direct evidence" that the flu shot works. No one said it is close to 100% but some % is better than none. Some years it is lower due to the way the viruses mutate. Some years it is over 50% easy . . . .even more.

Link me to the actual scientific evidence of your last statement. And don't use the links we've already said were debunked.

Murray, Terry. "Repeated flu shots may blunt effectiveness." CMAJ: Canadian Medical Association Journal 7 Apr. 2015: E180. Health Reference Center Academic. Web. 29 Aug. 2015.

URL

Health Reference Center Academic - Document - Repeated flu shots may blunt effectiveness

New Canadian studies suggest seasonal flu shot increased H1N1 risk | CIDRAP

Autism "just happens", is what you're saying? No indication whatsoever before, but right after, and, it happens not in just one, but many. We're not talking about a cold, or any other childhood disease, we're talking about an entire behavioral change. Apparently, "science" needs to get it's act together and stop presuming so many things, like who's "healthy" and who isn't as well. Why are presumptions allowed at all? Anyone can take a vaccine if they trust them. The issue is forcing an invasive procedure on others against their judgement.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
I didn't leave it out. I just don't find it credible, sorry. Why behavioral changes after vaccines yet "healthy" and normal before is not explained, and, the growing number of cases that were rare at one time, along with other physical problems that just so happen after vaccines as well, and sadly, I've read many. I wouldn't accept it if it were my child. Parents know the changes in their children better than anyone.

You don't find the source YOU cited credible? Or just the part of it that you don't agree with?

Again, it is not entirely unheard of that previously healthy people get sick. Unfortunately, some children develop autism. Some of those kids were vaccinated at some point. Correlation does not imply causation.

Please, cite a scientific study that demonstrates autism is caused by any vaccine.

Parents know the changes in their children better than anyone.

And being a parent does not automatically imbue one with the knowledge necessary to discern the REASONS for any "changes". Typically it is quite the opposite: a parent may recognize a change in their child's patterns of behavior, but NOT have a CLUE what is in play that is causing it. Oh, they may well THINK they do....but honestly? Nope.

Case in point a child brought to see physician by parent who wanted "drug tests" on said child. He MUST be on drugs...he's ACTING like he's on drugs....Mom doesn't like his friends...please read the child the riot act for being an idiot and experimenting with drugs! Except for one thing: child NOT on drugs....child sent to neurologist....child determined to have a MEDICAL explanation for behavior changes (that necessitated treatment to resolve). Mommy "just knew" her kid was on drugs....except she didn't know crap as to why, and thankfully (eventually) let the doctors who COULD diagnose the problem do just that.

As a parent, I believe I know my children's behaviors better than anyone, and I'm sure that I do. I am NOT so sure that I could single out one (incredibly slim, incredibly unlikely) possibility as The Reason for an adverse change. And I DO have a clue.