Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?
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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:
I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?
Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.
Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.
Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.
Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.
Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.
I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:
Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.
(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)
The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.
Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.
You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.
Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.
Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.
Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.
Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.
All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.
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References
American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel
ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7
CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC
Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel
Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u
National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit
NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf
TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf
I have never had the vaccination (due to copious allergies and autoimmune disease), have never had the Flu, and I do Triage quite often and am exposed to sick patients, AND I work with the religious flu vaccinators who always come to work sick, yet I never catch any of the illnesses. The Flu Vaccination seems like a money grab or bunk science to me...and I am NOT Anti-vax. The Flu vax is junk science.
Made some emphasis on this post to point something out. As we consider both sides of the debate about vaccination (or any other topic) we should be looking at the hard evidence. Look at the word usage here and you can spot it in similar posts of anecdotal and pseudoscientific evidence. Those that are vaccinate are "always" sick and those that aren't are "never" sick. A theory changes from "seems like" to "is" yet there are never citations about "how" or "why".
Its good, at least in my opinion, to have these conversations as a profession. There have been posters that have discussed concerns that are valid and worth of further investigation and discussion. Anecdotes and personal experience are part of the art of medicine not the science of medicine. There is room for both but when one side of a discussion is a majority of art and the other is a majority of science then the discussion devolves.
LEFTFLANKPAIN said:I, and long proven medical science, disagrees with the statement that just because someone eats junk food and doesn't exercise, it has nothing to do with the Flu shot. It's long scientifically proven that maintaining a healthy lifestyle is the #1 best way to keep a healthy immune response and prevent disease. A pill for this and a shot for that has not had the same efficacy. Primary Prevention and Health Maintenance are the cornerstones of Medical practice.Just because people get the annual flu shot does not mean they're not spreading the Flu to patients. This year our staff had an influenza outbreak....All who had the Flu are the religious vaccinators. When they all tested positive for the Flu they were baffled and asked why they caught the Flu when they've been vaccinated. The athletic, healthy staff did not even so much as have a sniffle. Why is that? Lifestyle is my answer. And this happens every year where the vaccinated staff have an outbreak. I have witnessed this over more than 20 years in healthcare at various facilities that it's become very predictable.
I'd like to see the research study on the place where you work and the actual numbers. Very hard to believe only people who got the flu shot got the actual flu and no one who got the flu shot but maintained supposed healthy lifestyles did not. The hard science is not there in any peer-reviewed research that I've perused.
trinitymaster said:No, it is not. That is why the Vaccine court was set up so that the government gets sued when vaccines hurt people. There is no jury because they know that vaccines hurt people and the only decision to be made is how much in damages is to be paid.
Unfortunately, The Vaccine Court came about due to scare tactics related to lawsuits and so "the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) was created. The VICP was established to ensure an adequate supply of vaccines, stabilize vaccine costs, and establish and maintain an accessible and efficient forum for individuals found to be injured by certain vaccines. The VICP is a no-fault alternative to the traditional tort system for resolving vaccine injury claims that provides compensation to people found to be injured by certain vaccines."
QuoteA recent study of VAERS data shows that less than 3% of adverse reaction reports from vaccines are actually found to be related to the vaccine. Further, when the data of these verified vaccine reactions were analyzed, the majority of them were of a minor nature such as a low grade fever or soreness at the site of injection. When you do the real numbers, the risk of serious vaccine injury is orders of magnitude less than 1%.
QuoteTrue vaccine injuries of a serious nature are exceptionally rare. We know they are real when they've been medically confirmed or published in peer-reviewed, credible medical journals. They are so rare we usually hear about them in the media and remember them by name. These kinds of cases should be swiftly and generously compensated.
Vaccine Injury Stories: the Sacred Cows of the Internet? - Voices For Vaccines
Coincidence . . . . .correlation . . . . do not equal causation.
No, it is not. That is why the Vaccine court was set up so that the government gets sued when vaccines hurt people. There is no jury because they know that vaccines hurt people and the only decision to be made is how much in damages is to be paid.
Serious adverse effects of the influenza vaccine have been close monitored for the past 15 years. Over that time period the rate of serious adverse effect of the vaccine in adults in less than 1%, in fact the most common serious adverse effect has a rate of occurrence of 0.70 per million vaccinated.
Fiore, A. E., Uyeki, T. M., Broder, K., Finelli, L., Euler, G. L., Singleton, J. A., ... & Cox, N. J. (2010). Prevention and control of influenza with vaccines: recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), 2010. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
1)__*Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
yes. But I fought it in the beginning.
2)__*Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
yes. Presence Healthcare
3)__*What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
after I received my first flu vaccine ever in my life 2 years ago, I developed an egg allergy. Not happy about that at all. Also, never had a flu dx before. Now that I've started getting the flu shot, I've gotten the flu both times (yes, actually tested influenza B one year and A the next year).
4)__*Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?
No, not personally.
Thank you, AllNurses, for the opportunity to honestly reply:
It took me many years to evolve on the subject of "forced" vaccinations. I used to be all for them. Not any more. Years ago, my own GP doc started me questioning the need for and efficacy (usefulness) of certain vaccines.
Everyone I know who gets a flu shot (I have never had one, and I won't ever have one), has gotten the flu, as a result of the flu shot!
I know of more than one child who was adversely (badly) affected (seizures, autism, etc.) by childhood vaccinations.
Vaccines are medications, but some large pharmaceutical companies have turned them into "sacred cows" that (supposedly) must not be openly questioned!
But, we do live in America, after all, and until we become a totalitarian dictatorship, those of us who feel the need to, BETTER question authority! Science evolves. Drugs get pulled off the market, after we all were lined up like cattle or human guinea pigs, and after enough deaths & adverse effects are recognized and admitted to.
I urge nurses (and everyone) to read these informative and controversial websites (see links below), and at least hear "the other side" of the vaccination story.
I also am waiting to hear vital Congressional testimony by a CDC (Centers for Disease Control) senior scientist (phD) William Thompson, who says that he and others were coerced to "fudge" and "delete" important data that would have shown a connection between between certain vaccines and AUTISM.
See what you all think of the info in these websites (keep an open mind):
Here are 5 websites that explain why some parents and nurses and doctors decide to avoid vaccinations, for themselves &/or for their children, &/or for their patients. See these links:
National Vaccine Information Center - Your Health. Your Family. Your Choice.
Why the Press Shouldn't Dismiss Vaccine Skeptics Lawrence Solomon
Controversial? Yes! But, remember my older comment here, about stool transfers for fighting recurrent C. diff, and how some nurses said "eeeew!", while other nurses said "Right on!" (when needed...).
Sincerely, Carol Sidofsky
concerned lady said:Everyone I know who gets a flu shot (I have never had one, and I won't ever have one), has gotten the flu, as a result of the flu shot!
I know of more than one child who was adversely (badly) affected (seizures, autism, etc.) by childhood vaccinations.
I urge nurses (and everyone) to read these informative and controversial websites (see links below), and at least hear "the other side" of the vaccination story.
I also am waiting to hear vital Congressional testimony by a CDC (Centers for Disease Control) senior scientist (phD) William Thompson, who says that he and others were coerced to "fudge" and "delete" important data that would have shown a connection between between certain vaccines and AUTISM.
First off, this is a discussion about the influenza vaccine. Do you have any particular thoughts/evidence about the influenza vaccine, or is it just bad because all vaccines are bad?
How many people do you know that get the influenza vaccine? "Everyone got the flu" from the flu shot? The inactivated flu shot? That is a miracle of science, should be published!
How exactly do you know that the seizures and autism came from the vaccines?
Dr. Thompson and Dr. Hooker have been thoroughly discredited.
Do you have and scientific references? Or just blogs?
1. Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
Yes, if I am working outside the home and can afford or get it free. Husband is vent dependent and he gets it,but I have no insurance and sometimes am not ablate leave the home.
2. Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
I am not currently working, but North Mississippi Medical Center, our local hospital and the largest rural hospital, has implemented a mandatory vaccination policy. If you refuse, you must mask for the entire flu season and if you get sick you cannot use your sick time, only vacation time.
3. What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
That not everybody who should get it does. The number of myths and people who swear that they got the flu from their vaccine, mostly due to not understanding that it takes a period of time to build your immunity. Also, the number of people who flippantly disregard impact their action can have on vulnerable people, especially within their families.
4. Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?
No.
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No, it is not. That is why the Vaccine court was set up so that the government gets sued when vaccines hurt people. There is no jury because they know that vaccines hurt people and the only decision to be made is how much in damages is to be paid.