mc3, ASN, RN 931 Posts Has 12 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 T.H.R.N.,That's so true!!!!! I've wondered that myself on a regular basis!!! And another thing; why bring them up to the clinic with their change of clothes to use this bathroom instead of the ones in their classroom? My bathroom isn't special, it's just like yours!!!I could go on and on....(sigh...)mc3
mc3, ASN, RN 931 Posts Has 12 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 Wow Spidey's Mom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I think we need to come up with the annual wackiest lice doozy.I propose that the first winner is you Spidey's mom. I have been at this for about 7 years now and have never encountered any thing on this scale. Epic.I second the motion!!!mc3:yes:
CapeCodMermaid, RN 6,090 Posts Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health. Has 30 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 From an LTC director: perhaps lice in your setting is no big deal...my kids were warned in school if one kid in the class had lice and it really was no big deal, but in long term care, we are governed by the Department of Public Health. They would cite us for infection control violation if ONE louse was found on ONE person's head. So, I can certainly understand why they would not want a bunch of possibly lice infected kids coming to visit.We have kids from a local school come in once a week to help the elders make craft projects ---we don't do head checks at the door and so far it's not been a problem.
allnurses Guide Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN 11,302 Posts Mar 8, 2014 From an LTC director: perhaps lice in your setting is no big deal...my kids were warned in school if one kid in the class had lice and it really was no big deal, but in long term care, we are governed by the Department of Public Health. They would cite us for infection control violation if ONE louse was found on ONE person's head. So, I can certainly understand why they would not want a bunch of possibly lice infected kids coming to visit.We have kids from a local school come in once a week to help the elders make craft projects ---we don't do head checks at the door and so far it's not been a problem.Lice can't jump or fly though. What I deal with as a school nurse is what was mentioned earlier - "hysteria" over lice. It's funny because the CDC and Public Health have been working very hard to counter the myths regarding lice and yet there is a regulation about lice in LTC that includes a fine?? Lice have absolutely nothing to do with being unclean or dirty as a facility. Policies have been slowly changing at schools from !NO LICE/NO NITS! and stay out of school until every single nit is gone to a more realistic one of if live lice are found then the student goes home for that day and gets treated and can come back the next day, even with nits. As a nurse, one of my biggest frustrations is dealing with people who don't look at scientific evidence. One of those is the anti-vaccine crowd. One of those is people who think lice means you are a bad person, an unclean person, someone to be avoided. I've got a good relationship with the Infection Control nurse at our hospital and she promises to check with me next time a rumor runs around the community.
allnurses Guide Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN 11,302 Posts Mar 8, 2014 Here's just one fact sheet (from the government) that I use. https://www.ndhealth.gov/head-lice/publications/myths_and_facts.pdf
Wave Watcher 751 Posts Specializes in Community Health/School Nursing. Has 7 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 Problem solved.
Jolie, BSN 6,375 Posts Specializes in Maternal - Child Health. Has 37 years experience. Mar 9, 2014 From an LTC director: perhaps lice in your setting is no big deal...my kids were warned in school if one kid in the class had lice and it really was no big deal, but in long term care, we are governed by the Department of Public Health. They would cite us for infection control violation if ONE louse was found on ONE person's head. So, I can certainly understand why they would not want a bunch of possibly lice infected kids coming to visit.We have kids from a local school come in once a week to help the elders make craft projects ---we don't do head checks at the door and so far it's not been a problem.You do understand that school children singing in your hallways pose as much of a lice threat to your residents as the man on the moon.Cuddling in bed with their grandchildren is far more risky to your clients, and I certainly hope you don't ban that.I agree with Steph that lack of attention to scientific evidence is frustrating, especially when it involves fellow professionals.I dare say that the tremendous benefits of socializing far outweigh the imaginary risks of lice transmission between singing school children and elderly adults.
fetch, BSN, RN 1 Article; 481 Posts Mar 10, 2014 Did any of you see last week's Modern Family? Lily got lice, and not only did everyone blame "that one dirty kid" in her class, but Cam wouldn't let her get on the couch, give him a hug, etc. I've now got a new pet peeve to go along with poorly-depicted CPR on TV!
allnurses Guide Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN 11,302 Posts Mar 10, 2014 Did any of you see last week's Modern Family? Lily got lice, and not only did everyone blame "that one dirty kid" in her class, but Cam wouldn't let her get on the couch, give him a hug, etc. I've now got a new pet peeve to go along with poorly-depicted CPR on TV!I don't watch it. But, a letter-writing campaign is in order. Parents are so hard to deal with regarding lice (and some teachers).
sharpeimom 2,452 Posts Specializes in ortho, hospice volunteer, psych,. Has 20 years experience. Mar 10, 2014 I think I needed to find a good lice thread today! Our next door neighbors are new citizens and have three sweet little boys who are nine, almost seven, and five. The husband's English is quite good but her spoken English is improving but she is difficult to understand especially when she is upset. I wish I knew more Farsi or Urdu that the few words I've learned.A letter came home Friday with all elementary and pre-K kids asking parents to check for lice. It should have given a very basic explanation of what a louse is. Mom always brings me any forms they don't understand or aren't quite sure about.I pulled up "lice" on my laptop, showed her what one of the little critters looks like, what a nit looks like and THAT was a huge tactical error. Such screaming and carrying on! there isn't a melodramatic enough smiley here... I checked all three boys as well as I could, considering that they were all screeching and carrying on too, and found absolutely nothing except their usual shiny clean hair.This morning, mom is calmer but still hyper about "lices" pronounced "leeces." Those poor kids probably had their hair washed by mama 10 times each over the weekend! But the biggest insult of all?Nine-year-old ___ has been showering and washing his very own hair for awhile now, and feeling very grown up indeed, until this weekend when his mother washed it several times over the kitchen sink!
SassyTachyRN 408 Posts Specializes in Peds, Oncology. Has 4 years experience. Mar 11, 2014 I think I needed to find a good lice thread today! Our next door neighbors are new citizens and have three sweet little boys who are nine' date=' almost seven, and five. The husband's English is quite good but her spoken English is improving but she is difficult to understand especially when she is upset. I wish I knew more Farsi or Urdu that the few words I've learned. A letter came home Friday with all elementary and pre-K kids asking parents to check for lice. It should have given a very basic explanation of what a louse is. Mom always brings me any forms they don't understand or aren't quite sure about. I pulled up "lice" on my laptop, showed her what one of the little critters looks like, what a nit looks like and THAT was a huge tactical error. Such screaming and carrying on! there isn't a melodramatic enough smiley here... I checked all three boys as well as I could, considering that they were all screeching and carrying on too, and found absolutely nothing except their usual shiny clean hair. This morning, mom is calmer but still hyper about "lices" pronounced "leeces." Those poor kids probably had their hair washed by mama 10 times each over the weekend! But the biggest insult of all? Nine-year-old ___ has been showering and washing his very own hair for awhile now, and feeling very grown up indeed, until this weekend when his mother washed it several times over the kitchen sink![/quote']Did you have to send home a letter because you have a lot of cases? I have about 15 in my elementary of 425 and I have parents threatening to call board of health and the state board of education if I "don't do something about it."
