I am an Oncology nurse working for a hospital for more than 13 years. I live in California and there is now a mandate in place that is requiring me to be vaccinated before Sept. 30th or I will be terminated from my job. Not only do I not feel comfortable to receive a EUV that no long term studies have been documented because it is too new and not FDA approved but I have also witnessed friends as well as patients having severe side effects after receiving vaccination.
I am unclear how an employer has the LEGAL RIGHT to ask me personal questions about my religious beliefs or medical information (vaccination status), where are my HIPAA Rights. Employer vaccine mandates are subject to religious accommodation under the Title VII of the Civil rights act. For personal reasons I will be submitting for religious exemption to hopefully prevent me from losing my job.
I'm not sure what the outcome will be but I am planning to seek employment elsewhere in case I do lose my job and likely it won't be in healthcare. I don't know if this will be the end of my nursing career and if it is I feel extremely sad about that.
What happened to the phrase " my body my choice " ?
I will not be forced to do anything to my body that I do not choose.
Through scripture we know that God values our bodies. Our bodies are said to be a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we are called to take care of and honor God's temple. God's words lead use to use our bodies and the gifts He has given us to achieve the will of God.
I would ask how you feel about contracting Covid and then giving it to those patients you're caring for. Many cancer patients are unable to generate a high enough titer of vaccine to offer protection; our oncologists actually have them taper off immunosuppressives like prednisone and decadron one week before vaccination in the hopes that it may offer full benefits. A lot of kids are also getting super sick this time around so this is something to think about.
I understand the hesitancy...to a degree. I did it to protect those I care for at work and at home, and in my community. If you just bite the bullet and do it, things will be a lot easier, and you will be doing those around you a favor. We need nurses with a lot of experience like yourself and it would be a shame to lose you over something like this.
ps: it's kind of an ugly subject but you would be amazed at what your employer can compel you to do. And, HIPAA applies to patients only. My body, my choice refers to something that will affect your body personally and not that of someone else (spreading disease).
Good luck to you, and I hope you find resolution, no matter what it may be.
People get the vaccine and still spread covid. Period. The vaccine will protect you. The CDC requires continued masking because we know the vaccine in you MAY NOT protect them. You can still spread it. You can still contract it. Period. That being said you are the hospitals SERVANT. That the legal terminology for you? Their worker? Their servant. You have no rights, no HIPAA, and maybe no bathroom breaks. You don't want to be a life saving slave? Then do something else. Forced vaccinations are coming and as you can see here your peers will nurse bullying you all the way to the grave. No one cares about your rights, your life, your family, your bursting bladder, your hunger, your sleep deprivation, your fear of being assaulted at work, your desire for a safe work environment, your health insurance, your mental health. NO ONE. They will fire you and tell u to be thankful u were ever allowed to work. I suggest you be quiet about your vaccine opinion and try to ride this out as long as you can. It will come. Be financially prepared. It will happen and you have no legal recourse. Period. If we can get laws to protect us from assault at work, why would they care about a shot.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
49 minutes ago, tiffanyselah said:
People get the vaccine and still spread covid. Period. The vaccine will protect you. The CDC requires continued masking because we know the vaccine in you MAY NOT protect them. You can still spread it. You can still contract it. Period. That being said you are the hospitals SERVANT. That the legal terminology for you? Their worker? Their servant. You have no rights, no HIPAA, and maybe no bathroom breaks. You don't want to be a life saving slave? Then do something else. Forced vaccinations are coming and as you can see here your peers will nurse bullying you all the way to the grave. No one cares about your rights, your life, your family, your bursting bladder, your hunger, your sleep deprivation, your fear of being assaulted at work, your desire for a safe work environment, your health insurance, your mental health. NO ONE. They will fire you and tell u to be thankful u were ever allowed to work. I suggest you be quiet about your vaccine opinion and try to ride this out as long as you can. It will come. Be financially prepared. It will happen and you have no legal recourse. Period. If we can get laws to protect us from assault at work, why would they care about a shot.
Forced vaccinations are coming?
Do you imagine that the hospital will obtain government assistance in forcing vaccination? Will hospital security restrain those who are unwilling or do you think the National Guard will be deployed?
Do you think that you are being bullied when your hyperbole and unfounded fears are highlighted?
Hi there! This is your first post here so I’m guessing there’s a reason you made it? Do you have any questions you want to ask us? The legal questions are probably best left to those with legal training, but do you have a vaccin or public health related question?
Or did you just post this to tell us that you think it’s acceptable for a healthcare professional to work with oncology patients, and still not want to get vaccinated against an infectious disease that could well kill them? You can probably figure out how I feel about that choice simply from how I worded my question.
Does your God value only your body, but not the bodies and lives of cancer patients? How does that work? If you feel that you are called to honor your body, why isn’t trying to keep it and the bodies of other human beings healthy, the right way to honor it? You protect yourself and others by getting vaccinated. I genuinely don’t understand why this a difficult choice to make.
Severe side effects from Covid-19 vaccines are extremely rare. Severe side effects, including death, from a Covid-19 infection are much more common. Let us know if you want me or other posters to provide the scientific evidence that shows just that.
There is ample data available that demonstrates that the vaccines are safe and effective, certainly safer than an infection. Can you be persuaded by facts, or is your mind already made up?
If the problem is that the mRNA vaccines are only granted EUA at this time, that problem will likely become a moot point in the near future.
You asked what happened to your body, your choice? It’s still your choice, but it’s a choice that might come with consequences. Most choices in life have those. It might not be a fun or easy choice, but it is a choice.
As I mentioned, many members here can answer questions about the vaccines if you are open to considering the science behind them. But if you don’t want to embrace the scientific evidence then I personally think that it would be better if you did find another job. The patient population that you work with is very vulnerable and there are many other non-nursing jobs and a few nursing jobs where you can work from home, that would be a better fit if you are adamant about not getting vaccinated.
Why do she need to be attacked for her own choice whether if she is aware of the science behind the vaccine? I get that you guys have strong opinions behind this but at the end of the day it's not your place to ridicule someone for their own belief smh
P.S. I'm vaccinated ? but I don't condone the attacking of human rights
People get the vaccine and still spread covid. Period. The vaccine will protect you. The CDC requires continued masking because we know the vaccine in you MAY NOT protect them. You can still spread it. You can still contract it. Period. That being said you are the hospitals SERVANT. That the legal terminology for you? Their worker? Their servant. You have no rights, no HIPAA, and maybe no bathroom breaks. You don't want to be a life saving slave? Then do something else. Forced vaccinations are coming and as you can see here your peers will nurse bullying you all the way to the grave. No one cares about your rights, your life, your family, your bursting bladder, your hunger, your sleep deprivation, your fear of being assaulted at work, your desire for a safe work environment, your health insurance, your mental health. NO ONE. They will fire you and tell u to be thankful u were ever allowed to work. I suggest you be quiet about your vaccine opinion and try to ride this out as long as you can. It will come. Be financially prepared. It will happen and you have no legal recourse. Period. If we can get laws to protect us from assault at work, why would they care about a shot.
I absolutely loveeeeee this post! I get everyone's view on it but I feel like the "attacking" is unnecessary PERIOD!! It's called human rights PERIOD!!
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
19 minutes ago, SFrazierRN said:
Why do she need to be attacked for her own choice whether if she is aware of the science behind the vaccine? I get that you guys have strong opinions behind this but at the end of the day it's not your place to ridicule someone for their own belief smh
P.S. I'm vaccinated ? but I don't condone the attacking of human rights
Today they say working with cancer patients etc. but please know these same people will support you not being allowed into the hospital for care or into the grocery store for food if you haven't taken the shot when the time comes . Even if you aren't "free to go elsewhere" by then.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, Conqueror+ said:
Today they say working with cancer patients etc. but please know these same people will support you not being allowed into the hospital for care or into the grocery store for food if you haven't taken the shot when the time comes . Even if you aren't "free to go elsewhere" by then.
Businesses can require masks and/or vaccines to protect employees and customers if they want.
The pandemic isn't going to go away until enough people are vaccinated to reduce the number of sick and dying. Vaccinating the population reduces person to person spread of the disease. Most people are accustomed to living in a society that has rules that may govern where we can go and what we may do when in public.
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I would ask how you feel about contracting Covid and then giving it to those patients you're caring for. Many cancer patients are unable to generate a high enough titer of vaccine to offer protection; our oncologists actually have them taper off immunosuppressives like prednisone and decadron one week before vaccination in the hopes that it may offer full benefits. A lot of kids are also getting super sick this time around so this is something to think about.
I understand the hesitancy...to a degree. I did it to protect those I care for at work and at home, and in my community. If you just bite the bullet and do it, things will be a lot easier, and you will be doing those around you a favor. We need nurses with a lot of experience like yourself and it would be a shame to lose you over something like this.
ps: it's kind of an ugly subject but you would be amazed at what your employer can compel you to do. And, HIPAA applies to patients only. My body, my choice refers to something that will affect your body personally and not that of someone else (spreading disease).
Good luck to you, and I hope you find resolution, no matter what it may be.