Terminated the third week into my orientation

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I’m looking to get advice from nurses this may have happened to because I’m feeling especially blue at the time being. OK, so little backstory - I graduated in December ‘19 with my ADN and got hired at my areas bigger hospital for a new grad position in the mother/baby unit. I was also offered a peds position as well as on oncology. However, I took the MBU because my passion is to be in LDR one day.

The first week went well, it consisted of class time and learning the hospital. The second week consisted of a class and two shifts in which I was placed with a preceptor. This is the where my first bad incident took place - I didn’t make it to the 6:45 huddle because my badge wouldn’t let me in through the employee door by the employee parking lot so I had to walk around the building to get in.

I made it in by 6:55 before report was given on our patients but that was considered late (which at the time they were sympathetic, but later used it against me.) I spent the two days learning my preceptors routine, figuring how to do the charting, and going solo on the steps she had taught me to do on the mommies and newborn babies. This preceptor was awesome and I appreciated how she was patient with me and helped me find my own way while teaching me.

That was about the extent of my “good” experience because the following week, I made the rather unfortunate mistake of oversleeping for a required class. I text a classmate to let her know of my plunder and that I was on the way. The text I received in return stated that they had decided to shorten the class and that the teacher claimed it wouldn’t be an issue for me to reschedule if I so chose to do. I agreed and went about my day until it was time for me to come in to shadow my charge nurse at 4:30.

That’s when I received the call from my clinical coordinator wondering why I wasn’t at the class and why hadn’t I told them about it. My exact words to her was that at the cost of sounding ignorant, I simply wasn’t aware that it was necessary to inform them and that I was told I could reschedule the class within a few weeks. I was told not to come in for the shadow and to expect a call from the clinical coordinator as well as my manager the following day. I get that dreaded call and they proceed to tell me that I cannot come to work till after they speak with HR because 1. I was late the first day, 2. I didn’t let them know I missed the class, 3. I “lied” by telling them I was told I could reschedule the class because it wasn’t the teacher who told me that but rather a fellow friend/co-worker.

It took them a week to get back to me, they ended up telling me I wasn’t a good “fit” for them, and they cut up my badge in front of me. Now, I am well beyond aware of my mishaps and what I should have done differently - I should’ve set aside time to make sure I could get in and out of the building before my scheduled shift, I should’ve set 5 alarms if that was what it would’ve take to ensure I didn’t oversleep, and I should’ve contacted my employer rather than my co-worker about the blunder. I am taking these unfortunate happenings and 100% learning from them so as to be the best nurse I can.

That being said, it’s been a week and I’m terrified I’m blacklisted from this hospital since I have been applying for other positions and have yet to hear anything. Should I wait it out? I was offered interviews at another hospital, however it’s an hour away so I’m hesitant to accept. Do I have to list this on future resumes? I don’t feel as if I got to truly “nurse” and I’m discouraged my skills will atrophy if I don’t use them. I’m also concerned that that was the only time I will ever get to experience my “dream job” as this manager is over both the MBU as well as LDR. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Specializes in Grad Nurse.

I never expected to go through more emotional turmoil asking for advice from my more seasoned peers. I apologize for how anyone took anything I said. I really just want to put this behind me now.

Specializes in Grad Nurse.

And yes before anyone says anything, I am doing some introspective reaching on how I’m taking the words of others and that their intent was not malicious.

Specializes in Endoscopy/Gastroenterology, General Surgery.
3 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

I don't agree with the advice to steer clear of LTC. In fact I take umbrage at the notion that it's beneath anyone or that your skills will rot. LTC nursing is an art in itself. It requires a broad range of talents and its patients are no less deserving of exemplary care. And the skills really are transferable. Right now, you might have a problem getting your foot in another door; take whatever job is offered so you can start building your career. You'll be glad you did.

I agree with @TriciaJ that some of the skills such as time management, priority, assessments skills are transferrable. Yes, "take whatever job is offered" is the good advise to anyone who absolutely can't find any hospital job. Since OP have mentioned previously that she was not interested in LTC, OP can apply LTC as a last resort.

I have been desperately trying to find a hospital job since I graduated in 2018. As I have mentioned in my previous post, not doing my consolidation in the city I am living in was problematic - it gave me no connection. I couldn't land a job for 6 months, not even an interview. I had no choice but to apply to LTC (I did not like LTC but I did not have a choice. LTC was much easier to get in because most of them are really short staffed). I was working at two LTC jobs and I was terminated from one of them 2 months after - I was also terminated within the probation period. I didn't include this job in my resume as I did not feel it was worth mentioning.

Working only one job causally in LTC made me scared; I did not want to stay in LTC forever and I did not want to become an old new grad that could not ever find a hospital job. There was not a lot of shifts given to me since I was a causal, so I was also afraid I would lose my nursing skills gradually. Meanwhile, I have been offered several interviews for inpatient positions from hospitals. However, with only LTC as my RN experience, I was informed straight into my face during the interview that I was not an ideal candidate because they do not consider LTC as acute care setting. (I was actually angry too because I was questioning why would they still interview me if they did not like my LTC experience on my resume...its like waste of my time and their time)

Meanwhile searching for more jobs, I started thinking about what I could include in my resume so I could stand out from the rest of the new grads' resumes. I have noticed that ACLS is a mandatory requirement for many outpatient clinics such as endoscopy and dental, etc. I was also told that taking coronary care I (CCI) is a good investment because not many RNs would want to invest their time and money into this course. CCI is a basic requirement for most of the cardiac floors. I have to say doing ACLS and CCI were probably one of the best decisions I ever have made. Shortly after completing ACLS, It landed me a permanent part-time job at an outpatient endoscopy clinic. I have been working there for 8 months and this experience have helped me to land a position at an endoscopy unit in the hospital. (I was also be able to happily resign from my LTC causal position)

CCI did help me to land an interview for a cardiac position but unfortunately it was a very competitive position (they told me they were interviewing 5 people for 1 position). However, even just having interviews made me happy because although I don't get hire, I can always learn and reflect from what I have said/done correctly and incorrectly. That is how you can improve and be more prepared for your next interview.

CCI and ACLS are definitely valuable assets to have under your belt; it shows to hiring managers and HR that you are a determined and continuous learner. If you have extra free time/some money to do these two courses (esp ACLS is a short 2 days course), I would strongly recommend you to do so, meanwhile applying to other positions in other hospitals.

Specializes in Endoscopy/Gastroenterology, General Surgery.
12 hours ago, CharleeFoxtrot said:
On 3/7/2020 at 6:14 PM, TriciaJ said:

Take what you can use and ignore the rest. ...

^^this is the best advice posted in this whole thread.

P.S. I just want to tell OP that, I have been silently following and reading almost everyone's comments after I had written my first post. I believe that most of us here have good intentions; we all want the best for you or otherwise, we wouldn't take our time to bother reading and replying you at all. I personally empathized with you because I have had a similar experience as you. Please don't take any of us as offending. I think that @TriciaJhas the one of the best advices out of everyone. I hope I am not too nosy and I hope my humble advices can actually help you. Like I had said; You can say you are a whatsoever nurse/person but other people need to see how you work so they can prove that and become your references. You have a long career ahead of you. Don't let this experience discourage you. I am confident you will become a good nurse that everyone respect.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
21 hours ago, HeartbrokenBabyNurse said:

That’s your presumptive opinion, only time will tell though ?

I was terminated from a hospital for having the disease of alcoholism. I was never drunk on the job or even drank before work. I arrived on time did my job well, was well liked by patient's and peers. The only reason the hospital found out was because I tried to kill myself and landed in their ER. I am still not sure if they had the legal grounds to fire me but I was so emotionally broken at the time I did not fight it. I asked during my exit interview if I would be eligible for re-hire if and when I got well and they said yes we would consider you again. That was almost 20 years ago and I have applied twice and been turned down I was also denied clinical experience there. So if I were you I wouldn't count on working there again. In their eyes you have proven to be unreliable. It might be best to move an and remember whenever one door closes another one opens. I have worked the past 19 years in acute psych the last 15 of which exclusively with adolescents and I couldn't be happier or more satisfied in my current career status.

Good luck to you.

Hppy

Specializes in ER.

I started my career in LTC. The job market was poor when I graduated. When things changed, I moved into acute care. I explored various specialties and last 8 years were in the emergency room. I had a wonderful job there until the hospital I worked for closed recently.

Now I have such a diverse and rich work history, I'm about to embark on a lucrative agency experience. I'm excited. First assignment: screening construction workers for coronovirus who are building a Microsoft cloud facility in Washington State. I'll be taking home an amazing amount of money.

Specializes in Dialysis.
9 hours ago, Emergent said:

I started my career in LTC. The job market was poor when I graduated. When things changed, I moved into acute care. I explored various specialties and last 8 years were in the emergency room. I had a wonderful job there until the hospital I worked for closed recently.

Now I have such a diverse and rich work history, I'm about to embark on a lucrative agency experience. I'm excited. First assignment: screening construction workers for coronovirus who are building a Microsoft cloud facility in Washington State. I'll be taking home an amazing amount of money.

That's awesome! Congrats!

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.
On 3/4/2020 at 9:27 PM, HeartbrokenBabyNurse said:

I applied to the other hospital within reasonable distance but they are owned by the same company as the hospital I was terminated from. All other hospitals will be at least an hour commute in either direction. I am not opposed completely to the commute to be honest, I’m more so terrified of ever making the mistake to be tardy again, especially living further away. I’ve never been a tardy person to be clear, I show up to events generally half an hour early. The fear of being tardy again is just from anxiety. I’m just full of anxiety for already making a bad impression. I wanted to be the best I could.

Maybe I should apply to LTC? My mom is a 20 year LPN and she has mostly worked LTC. I’m just worried about the fact I’ve never gotten a proper orientation where I got to use my skills as a new nurse. I am not sure how LTC facilities train new grads. Something to look into.

Speaking from a lot of LTC experience you'd most likely be measuring your orientation in days, if you're lucky weeks and if that's the case it'll be one or maybe two. Long, thorough orientation just doesn't exist in that world. For the most part you are pretty much expected to hit the ground running. You should ask you Mom if that is typical in your area just to be prepared if you decide to go that route.

On 3/5/2020 at 10:38 AM, Elaine M said:

I think you've learned a lesson. And who among us hasn't been late for work? Anyway, now you know what not to do, you know to get another alarm or two or 3 and plug them in across the room (get ones with battery backup), and always always call your supervisor first. And might I suggest planning on getting to work a little earlier so that first incident doesn't happen again? Good luck with your career, this has been a traumatic start but it doesn't have to define you or your career from here on out.

Edit: I would stay away from LTC as a new grad. It will be VERY busy, families are difficult and I think you might get adversely labeled as only being able to do LTC. Plus you may be the only RN on your unit on nights/weekends, and I don't think that's good for ANY new grad. Get some hospital experience under your belt.

Who among us hasn't been late for work?

Well in roughly 23 years I have been late twice. Once while working ER for the strictest manager I've ever worked for. Traffic was terrible and my bus was so late I got off and ran the last few blocks. Arrived approximately 3 minutes late so out of breath I could barely breathe to apologize.

Once in an OR I failed to arrive for a call in. Manager had forgotten to call me in. I arrived as quickly as I could. I also immediately apologized to the entire team for keeping them waiting.

The OP needs to really owe their mistakes and any other ones we haven't heard about. While I do feel sorry for this person nothing will improve for them until they really understand that they need to holding themselves to a higher standard.

Good luck OP. Put this behind you and best of luck with the next job!

On 3/8/2020 at 6:24 PM, HeartbrokenBabyNurse said:

I never expected to go through more emotional turmoil asking for advice from my more seasoned peers. I apologize for how anyone took anything I said. I really just want to put this behind me now.

It hurts to be told that you come across in a light that you don't see yourself in. Criticism stings anytime, but especially when you're already in a vulnerable place from being fired.

Sometimes there's a disconnect between how we perceive ourselves and how others perceive us. I think this thread has been so hard because people are repeatedly telling you that your self-perception doesn't match the impression you give off. Unfortunately, if that's happening online, there's a good chance that's happening in real life.

I realize you might perceive this as nitpicking, but nuance is important. In this post, you apologize for "how anyone took anything I said." You probably think you are coming across as humble and accepting criticism, but that's not necessarily the message that comes across. What I see when I read that is you telling us, "I'm sorry that YOU didn't UNDERSTAND what I meant." Notice that is different from apologizing for and showing insight into what you said that gave the impression you did; it's still maintaining you were right all along, and we are mistaken in our interpretation. Do you see the difference?

You think you are sending one message, but your audience is receiving another. You can't move forward if you continue to blame the audience for misunderstanding you. The only way to change what your audience hears is to send different messages.

Please don't "put this behind you." Learn from it, build on it, and change. Many have pointed out that cutting up an ID badge is an over-the-top reaction that is unlikely to have been triggered by two tardies. There is something else going on that you either don't see or can't acknowledge to yourself yet. Setting more alarm clocks at your next job isn't going to get at the real problem. Your introspection needs to focus on how you can address the root issue. I am sincere when I say I wish you nothing but good luck with that. It's hard.

1 hour ago, turtlesRcool said:

Many have pointed out that cutting up an ID badge is an over-the-top reaction that is unlikely to have been triggered by two tardies. There is something else going on that you either don't see or can't acknowledge to yourself yet.

Or another possibility: There are issues the OP might wish to tidy up a bit, but also the manager seriously lacks some self-control and good judgment and is willing to let loose with ridiculous behavior over what amounts to a relatively minimal provocation.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
3 hours ago, JKL33 said:

Or another possibility: There are issues the OP might wish to tidy up a bit, but also the manager seriously lacks some self-control and good judgment and is willing to let loose with ridiculous behavior over what amounts to a relatively minimal provocation.

Yes, it probably didn't help to have such a draconian manager. Always sucks at the time. The interesting thing, though, is that in the long run I've benefitted the most from the crappiest people in my life. I still think they're crappy people, but I marvel at what I was able to accomplish because of their crap.

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