I see in the news that anti-choice organizations are planning demonstrations today at Planned Parenthood facilities around the US to support GOP plans to defund PP.
Of course, my first thought was to grab a sign (and my, ummm, "kittyhat"!) and head for my local facility to show my support for PP, but I also see in the news that PP offices are asking that supporters not show up at the facilities to counter-protest (because they don't want the crowds of protesters any larger or more chaotic than necessary as women are trying to get in and out for services).
Some communities are planning counter-demonstrations in other venues, but I haven't been able to find any information about any events planned in my city.
So, I've decided to set aside the time planned for the anti-choice demonstration in my city today to contact all my elected representatives, from the White House down to my state legislators, and Tom Price at DHHS, to remind them that I support PP and am strongly opposed to any efforts to restrict women's reproductive rights or Planned Parenthood's access to public healthcare dollars as a legitimate healthcare provider.
I hope PP supporters here will consider doing the same, and spread the word to people you know. I hope people all over the country will have the same thought. Wouldn't it be great if, while comparatively small groups of protesters are standing out in the cold and snow with their signs, huge numbers of Americans were flooding mail boxes and switchboards around the country with messages of support for PP, women's health, and reproductive rights?
Hmm I don’t see a problem as long as you’re not bringing it up on the job. We’re anonymous here, what is a better medium?
I would go to a political forum on some other website. You still have your username here and this could start some rifts and trolling. Look at all the insults going both ways here. We should be coming here to support each other. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, I just don't think this is the right venue for that. Ultimately this is up to admin, I hope they are paying attention.
So people here are mature enough to care for patients, but a political discussion is too much? It’s a healthcare related issue. I disagree with OP but respect that they were willing to discuss it. I think it’s wise to use different call signs too. I use a different one if I’m on a gun forum, home brew forum, veteran page, etc. Makes it harder to be tracked.
So people here are mature enough to care for patients, but a political discussion is too much? It’s a healthcare related issue. I disagree with OP but respect that they were willing to discuss it. I think it’s wise to use different call signs too. I use a different one if I’m on a gun forum, home brew forum, veteran page, etc. Makes it harder to be tracked.
“I just have a moral opposition to one of those choices. Please don't lump all of us into the stereotype of the radical, right-wing lunatic, hate spewing, quasi-religious thugs as we are so often portrayed and I will do the same for you.”
“You accuse somebody of using inflammatory language and order them to stop when you are doing the exact same thing.”
“insults will get you no where, and I was not using inflammatory language, unless you consider the truth inflammatory. some things there is no room for "discussion" and my rights to my body is one of them.”
“Other than their having supported Clinton for president, which is actually true, please provide documentation (other than far-right propaganda like the above) for any of those statements. The same, tired, right-wing lies.”
“Again, you really need to get educated. You are so confused by the GOP right wing propaganda lies. It is really sad. No tax dollars pay for any abortions. Learn what the Hyde Amendment is.”
“Well go research The Hyde Amendment. You will discover it isn't paid by our tax dollars! Learn the facts before posting right wing propaganda. A lot of middle class liberals and moderates are willingly donating their $$ to PP to help poor women obtain abortions should they need it!
Hate is ugly.”
“Besides, how do you expect to get paid without medicaid, morons?”
“I've shown you respect in our conversation, and if you can't show me some in return, this conversation is over.”
“The point I try to make is the hypocrisy of leaving real, vulnerable children twisting in the wind while you get all self-congratulatory about preserving fetuses.”
“If all of a sudden men could get pregnant, the pro-life politicians and right wing hypocrites would change their tune so fast, your head would spin. Can you imagine how quickly things would change?”
“Oh, please!
What complete nonsense!”
“Oh, please ... don't be disingenuous.”
“Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. This comment is so irritating I'm having problems even typing a proper response.”
THIS is what I'm talking about. Most of the posts are in line but this type of topic just starts all kinds of trouble.
Well it’s the posters at fault, not the issue itself. It’ll be a cold day before I’m okay with my tax dollars going to abortion, but I understand we all have different opinions and I’d still care for a patient who had one. And I’m not going to insult someone for having a different opinion than me. We were all raised differently.
Well it’s the posters at fault, not the issue itself. It’ll be a cold day before I’m okay with my tax dollars going to abortion, but I understand we all have different opinions and I’d still care for a patient who had one. And I’m not going to insult someone for having a different opinion than me. We were all raised differently.
I agree the issue should be discussed in a respectful and courteous fashion. As this thread shows, that isn't likely to happen unfortunately. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and expressing your beliefs without resorting to name calling and insults is part of being a well adjusted adult. God knows politicians can't do that. In my opinion, however, a nursing forum is not the place for this topic because of what nursing is. It is taking care of EVERYONE regardless of the patients beliefs. A good discussion on the topic is needed but I don't think this is the place. The focus should be on helping each other, not finding out what separates us from each other. I have high regard for those of you who did not drop to level of insulting each other though.
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3 hours ago, juniper222 said:
In my opinion this topic is not proper for a nursing forum.
There will always be hot topic discussions in nursing, with a divide and supporters on each side. That doesn't mean that hot topics don't belong on a message board. If you take particular issue with a post, you can utilize the triangle with the exclamation point in it to report that particular post and why. If something needs to be done about the post, the admin team will take care of it. However, that doesn't mean that because something strikes you as not belonging that your opinion will prevail. There is a terms of service that discusses what is or isn't allowed.
There will always be hot topic discussions in nursing, with a divide and supporters on each side. That doesn't mean that hot topics don't belong on a message board. If you take particular issue with a post, you can utilize the triangle with the exclamation point in it to report that particular post and why. If something needs to be done about the post, the admin team will take care of it. However, that doesn't mean that because something strikes you as not belonging that your opinion will prevail. There is a terms of service that discusses what is or isn't allowed.
I did not expect anything to change because of my opinion. I apologize if I left that impression. Just stating what I think about this issue. I hope you were not offended by my opinion of this issue.
Well it’s the posters at fault, not the issue itself. It’ll be a cold day before I’m okay with my tax dollars going to abortion, but I understand we all have different opinions and I’d still care for a patient who had one. And I’m not going to insult someone for having a different opinion than me. We were all raised differently.
That's why your tax dollars don't go to fund abortions, I'm still not clear why there are those who believe their tax dollars do fund abortions.
They don’t yet. There are people that believe they should. Or that businesses should have to pay for them as part of their insurance.
Like your paycheck, an insurance plan is part of your compensation from your employer, and therefore how you spend it shouldn't be subject to the personal views of your employer. Should an employer be allowed to prohibit an employee from using their paycheck to purchase birth control?
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10 hours ago, MunoRN said:
That's why your tax dollars don't go to fund abortions, I'm still not clear why there are those who believe their tax dollars do fund abortions.
They do in my state (OR). Our lovely governor, Kate Brown, recently signed into law a bill making taxpayers responsible for abortion on demand and free abortions for illegal immigrants. The Hyde Amendment be damned, our leaders have stepped on the federal government's head and awarded themselves all the power. It infuriates me because I don't believe my hard-earned money should go to pay for something I am passionately opposed to. But what can I do, I'm just one of a minority of Oregon residents who are pro-life.
That's why your tax dollars don't go to fund abortions, I'm still not clear why there are those who believe their tax dollars do fund abortions.
I could be because there was just a major issue over Title X funding for Planned Parenthood and a restriction from recipients of that federal money referring and conducting abortions causing Planned Parenthood to refuse that federal funding.
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I would go to a political forum on some other website. You still have your username here and this could start some rifts and trolling. Look at all the insults going both ways here. We should be coming here to support each other. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, I just don't think this is the right venue for that. Ultimately this is up to admin, I hope they are paying attention.