Upon browsing different nursing groups including this one, I have noticed a new trend...current or nursing students to be asking for money via goFundme. Why don't they apply for scholarships or for student loans the way most, if not all of us, did?
I really think its a self entitlement attitude they have, and no, I am not an old fuddy duddy. I worked part to full time to put food on the table whilst putting myself through nursing school with the help of my money, grants, loans and scholarships as I raised my kids. I am 40 years old now, and I EARNED what I have due to my hard work and yes, I did have hardships just like everyone else. But having put myself through school without asking anyone for free money such as goFundme has made me appreciate everything I have even more.
Yes, Scholarships are a form of free money but that required writing essays, gathering documents, putting packets together, rushing them to the post office before the deadlines, only to get turned down multiple times, but so what? Eventually one says yes, and the efforts pay off. But now people don't want to do any work for it and would rather put their face on the web to ask for a free ride?
I find this very annoying and a slap on the face for those of us that struggled, AND made it. I know I am being harsh and it sounds terrible, but I hope these people that ask strangers to fund their education simply by asking for free money fail school because they do not deserve to be nurses. I know many people that had deaths in the family or other crisis happen in their lives and they got through school by working or loans instead of playing victim and mooching off others. This is my opinion.
But so what? It's not like you have to follow the link. You don't even have to open the thread. And if you do open the tread because it's not well labeled, just click back out. Then the mods take it down, and it's over.
I see so much random garbage on the internet, I just can't get worked up about a short-lived post from someone asking for money. When I accidentally come across something I don't want to see, I just navigate away, usually after the first sentence. Annoyances are everywhere on the internet; I just filter through them. I mean, does reading the first sentence of a gofundme request really create that much angst? I don't get it.
I guess you're missing the point of the sheer arrogance that some people think they are more more of a special snow flake deserving of a hand out than the rest of us.
I guess you're missing the point of the sheer arrogance that some people think they are more more of a special snow flake deserving of a hand out than the rest of us.
I'm not missing anything. I think you're reading arrogance and special-snowflake-ism into places it does not necessarily exist.
Asking isn't the same as demanding. When people get married or have a baby, they often make registries. That doesn't mean they feel they are "deserving of a hand out." Sometimes it crosses the line into entitlement if those people start to complain that their guests didn't buy them everything on the list. But just putting it out there that they have needs/wants is not arrogant. Similarly, asking people to help you reach your goals on gofundme and letting donors decide to give or not does not necessarily translate into people thinking they are special snowflakes.
The truth is that some people LIKE to donate directly to others. They could donate to an organization that gives out scholarships, but they prefer to have a one-on-one interaction. Gofundme is just one platform that allows that to happen.
I was able to attend university in part because of local scholarships through groups like the Lion's club. I had good grades and extra curricular activities, and I filled out applications, and went through interviews. But in the end, there wasn't that much difference between the "legitimate" way I got my scholarships and the way others get funded through gofundme. In my case, three guys in a room decided they wanted their organization's money to go to me based on the way I presented my past achievements and future goals. In the case of gofundme, anyone can decide they want their personal money to go to a particular person based on whatever criteria they want. If they believe someone is worthy of receiving their money, who am I to judge that?
Why are you, for lack of a better word, harping on this? Is this a morality issue for you?
It's an "I thought women had come further than selling their bodies" issue for me. And yes, morality too. An activity that can create human lives shouldn't be treated as merely a recreational activity or business transaction. It's disgusting that in a time when women are free to use our minds and our potential, to earn things for ourselves, that any woman would degrade herself, and all other women, by selling sex. This clearly wasn't some downtrodden soul who felt she had no options. She did it because it was easier than working an actual job or putting in the effort to get scholarships and grants. I understand not wanting to incur debt, but some choices are just wrong.
If people with money want to give it away to strangers who may (or may not) be worthy of it ... why should I mind?
Personally, I wouldn't donate to a stranger in that way. That's one reason I don't have personal financial problems. I am pretty sensible with my money. But if someone else doesn't care whether or not their money is going to "good cause" or not, it is not my business to mind.
In fact, if any of you want to give me some money "just for the heck of it," I'll take if off your hands. I don't really need it ... but I am hoping to take 2 summer vacations this year and would enjoy the extra cash.
IThis clearly wasn't some downtrodden soul who felt she had no options. She did it because it was easier than working an actual job or putting in the effort to get scholarships and grants. I understand not wanting to incur debt, but some choices are just wrong.
Are you a male or female?
I was working as a Cna at the time,so i did have a job.
It just was not enough.
I grew up in poverty,the type where your baths consisted of taking a bucket of water from the fire hydrant down the street and carrying it to your home.
It's an "I thought women had come further than selling their bodies" issue for me. And yes, morality too. An activity that can create human lives shouldn't be treated as merely a recreational activity or business transaction. It's disgusting that in a time when women are free to use our minds and our potential, to earn things for ourselves, that any woman would degrade herself, and all other women, by selling sex. This clearly wasn't some downtrodden soul who felt she had no options. She did it because it was easier than working an actual job or putting in the effort to get scholarships and grants. I understand not wanting to incur debt, but some choices are just wrong.
You seem to know an awful lot about the living conditions and decision making process of people you've never met. I hope that if you ever become a nurse, you'll learn how to be less judgemental.
It's an "I thought women had come further than selling their bodies" issue for me. And yes, morality too. An activity that can create human lives shouldn't be treated as merely a recreational activity or business transaction. It's disgusting that in a time when women are free to use our minds and our potential, to earn things for ourselves, that any woman would degrade herself, and all other women, by selling sex. This clearly wasn't some downtrodden soul who felt she had no options. She did it because it was easier than working an actual job or putting in the effort to get scholarships and grants. I understand not wanting to incur debt, but some choices are just wrong.
At least she actually did something for her money instead of just standing there with her hand out, metaphorically speaking, and hoping someone would throw money her way just because. I'll even use the ugly word "prostitute" - maybe it's just the way I was raised, but I see more honor in prostituting yourself for money than just expecting it for nothing.
On another note... these lazy people should make Kickstarters instead. I might even fund their college education myself if I got a classy photo print for my living room with a $50 donation, or a free .mp3 with an original single written by that person on it for a $20 donation. I really just have problems with people expecting something for nothing.
It's an "I thought women had come further than selling their bodies" issue for me. And yes, morality too. An activity that can create human lives shouldn't be treated as merely a recreational activity or business transaction. It's disgusting that in a time when women are free to use our minds and our potential, to earn things for ourselves, that any woman would degrade herself, and all other women, by selling sex. This clearly wasn't some downtrodden soul who felt she had no options. She did it because it was easier than working an actual job or putting in the effort to get scholarships and grants. I understand not wanting to incur debt, but some choices are just wrong.
I know this thread is already off topic but I found your reply to smartnurse to be very offensive, presumptive, and judgmental.
Do you know that she did not apply for scholarships and grants? Do you know that she did not have a job? What if she tried and it still wasn't enough? Why do you assume that she did not feel felt she had any other options? How can you presume to tell us why she did it? You are making a lot of specific assumptions about another persons life right there, that you don't know. You say it's "degrading" like that is a fact when it is just your opinion.
As healthcare providers we have to be cautious not to impose our moral beliefs/standards on our patients. We refrain from judging them. I think it would serve you well to start practicing that now.
Red Kryptonite
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As a prostitute.