I think I'm done answering student nurse help me threads here.
I've gotten rude answers, or they never even bother coming back to the thread to acknowledge the answers they received.
Some will ask life choice questions like "Where should I move?" or "Where should I apply?". Do they think someone is going to offer them a job here, is that why they start these threads? You have the whole internet to research towns, cities, regions, but instead you post a thread asking a bunch of strangers where you should move?
Some help me threads seem to be 'Help me do my homework' threads.
Hey, Amazon just told me that my extra copy of "Enhancing Adult Motivation to Learn" has shipped! It's such a great book that I got the extra to lend out. It's full of great techniques for helping your learners. I highly recommend it. Nowhere in it does it say do people's homework for them or spoonfeed them.
Because, my learners are adults! So I strive to not let them be dependent on me. You know, give them problem-solving skills and tools to fill the toolbox. Not hand-hold.
Hey, Amazon just told me that my extra copy of "Enhancing Adult Motivation to Learn" has shipped! It's such a great book that I got the extra to lend out. It's full of great techniques for helping your learners. I highly recommend it. Nowhere in it does it say do people's homework for them or spoonfeed them.
Because, my learners are adults! So I strive to not let them be dependent on me. You know, give them problem-solving skills and tools to fill the toolbox. Not hand-hold.
That's me though. Carry on. Good times.
You did pretty good training me on how to double quote...
The disturbing thing about someone using a 'real name' and a 'real photo' here? We don't know if they are really using their own, or trying to defame someone they want to hurt.
I think maybe the site ought to make it against the TOS. Someone could cause some grief for a co-worker here...
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The disturbing thing about someone using a 'real name' and a 'real photo' here? We don't know if they are really using their own, or trying to defame someone they want to hurt.
I think maybe the site ought to make it against the TOS. Someone could cause some grief for a co-worker here...
It isn't a stereotype if there is evidence to support it. I have been told so, so many times to "buck up" by older, more experienced nurses because "that's what we were told to do" and I'd be a "better nurse if I figured it out on my own." None of which should ever be said to a new graduate, nor someone just shy of a month off orientation. Just because that's how it WAS doesn't mean it should be how it IS.
REALLY?? What are you doing that you've been told to buck up "so, so many times???" I have never once been told to do this, but if I ask something, I usually have the research to back it up, or if I don't, say I'll come back with that info. You HAVE to have a thick skin to be a nurse. I've seen patients intimidate new nurses, and I've had to step in as a STUDENT. This isn't how it WAS, this is how it IS. YOU need to able to think through a situation. No one expects a new grad to be perfect and to have all of the answers and to never ask for help, but if you're asking for it so much and in situations that the other nurses are having to tell you to "buck up", it might be time for some introspection.
If a thread like THIS gets your feathers ruffled (seriously??), you're being way too thin-skinned. And frankly, poaching a thread that was otherwise fun.
I asked for help deciphering a very specific order set that had come in for a patient that became critical. I ASKED for help in #1) prioritizing the order set, and #2) the protocol/procedure for administering a drug I had never given before (MULTIPLE drugs to be quite honest). I approached the situation armed with the prior knowledge I had, and the paper copies of the protocol and procedure in hand. When I asked a person in a position to help for help, I was told "figure out what you can" and when I walked away to figure out what I could, I heard behind my back, very snidely, "she needs to buck up."
Not professional. Not at all. I had been off orientation less than a week. LESS THAN A WEEK. At my first nursing job. Come on. I cannot believe for the life of me that anyone would ever think that this is appropriate behavior.
Please refer me to the section where an account can be suspended for such behavior. From what I was referred to prior, it was merely a suggestion as to avoid any repercussions. I have posted on here several times and not heard from any site owner/moderator with so much as a threat to have my account suspended.
But if you rely solely on asking others, the day will come when 1) you may be the most senior person on your shift due to call offs/other issues, and the lesser experienced nurses come to you wanting guidance; 2) JC comes for one of their nice visits and comes up to you and says, "Show me where your policy is for dealing with "x." In addition, sometimes you may get an answer from someone that doesn't follow P&P. If you take that advice and the pt. goes south, saying, "Nancy Nurse said..." Admin. is going to want to know why you didn't follow P&P.
You have to learn to think for yourself...the sooner the better. Sure, you also need to know who your best resources are, but someday, you'll know what it feels like to have one person after the other tugging your hemline saying, "How do you do this/that?"
If you intend to finish your RN-MSN/FNP program, you're going to have to be able to think things through on. your. own.
I have no problem helping a new nurse with a patient situation. But if it's not an exigent circumstance, I want to know what that nurse did to answer his/her own question.
1. If JC ever asked where my P&Ps are, I can direct them to such without an issue.
2. There are many, many things I can think through on my own, if armed with the appropriate knowledge. If I don't have the appropriate knowledge, then it makes figuring out the answer on my own something that could really hurt someone. And if there is someone who has the knowledge, what's the point of shirking that off on the new nurse? It's like saying, "neener, neener … I know the answer but you gotta jump through hoops to find it and THEN decide whether or not it's applicable to the situation because I'm not going to help you figure it out."
3. I'm not so stupid (as you all believe) that I would take someone's advice about a pt at face value without questioning something that seems absurd or, even better, not asking someone that has the experience to help.
I know, I'm sure you're out spending every extra minute of every day fulfilling altruistic endeavors. Most people in your situation are. Feeding the homeless, etc. etc.
Do you only do what's required of you? Did you learn nothing from "Office Space?" LOL
Of course I only do what's required of me! That's why I'm *never* going to make it to RN II status ... because I don't contribute a single solitary thing to my field. Ever. I just go to work, take on my piddly 1:6 ratio, do my job, and skeeter out of there right on time. Every single day. My, my. I don't know why I'm even still gainfully employed.
Point of clarification: perhaps the photo is a violation of the TOS, however, this is not abundantly clear as it does not out and out specify that it is forbidden. The verbage makes it sound as though it is a mere suggestion. I will, however, to satisfy something that is fuzzy on the details, rethink my avatar, but utilizing a moniker does not in any way equal what someone's "real" name actually is.
I asked for help deciphering a very specific order set that had come in for a patient that became critical. I ASKED for help in #1) prioritizing the order set, and #2) the protocol/procedure for administering a drug I had never given before (MULTIPLE drugs to be quite honest). I approached the situation armed with the prior knowledge I had, and the paper copies of the protocol and procedure in hand. When I asked a person in a position to help for help, I was told "figure out what you can" and when I walked away to figure out what I could, I heard behind my back, very snidely, "she needs to buck up."
Not professional. Not at all. I had been off orientation less than a week. LESS THAN A WEEK. At my first nursing job. Come on. I cannot believe for the life of me that anyone would ever think that this is appropriate behavior.
If you'd been off orientation less than a week, and you'd been told to "buck up so, so many times," again, I repeat, you might need to look inward.
Something tells me there's more to your story than we're going to hear from you.
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Hey, Amazon just told me that my extra copy of "Enhancing Adult Motivation to Learn" has shipped! It's such a great book that I got the extra to lend out. It's full of great techniques for helping your learners. I highly recommend it. Nowhere in it does it say do people's homework for them or spoonfeed them.
Because, my learners are adults! So I strive to not let them be dependent on me. You know, give them problem-solving skills and tools to fill the toolbox. Not hand-hold.
That's me though. Carry on. Good times.