Stoning! Can you believe this?

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 25, 2003

Sad thing is about the revoking of the stoning order is that this is just a one-time thing, one person is saved from it.

Meanwhile in countries such as Saudi Arabia, this sort of thing goes on by family members of "adulterous" women (just being see alone and clothed with a man is considered adulterous by some) without any court decisions. Yes it's considered illegal, but nothing's done about it, since it is all a matter of "honor".

katscan · Sep 25, 2003

A male relative can slit the throat of a female relative to save the "honor " of the family if a woman even talks to a unrelated male in some of these countries.. Also, if the "bride price" is not enough, a potential mother in law in some of the Indian provinces can throw acid in the face of her sons future bride. Women are treated HORRIBLY in sme of these 3rd world countries. Get on the net and investigate "atrocities against women"

sjoe · Sep 25, 2003

"What a bunch of sick freaks! "

Ah, cultural sensitivity at its best.

Some cultures consider it barbaric to rountinely circumcise baby boys, for example, or to lock people up for life rather than simply executing them, or to sentence people to 10 years+ for possessing marijuana, or to slap people in prison for having consenting sex with another adult in their own home, and on and on.

Every culture gets to make its own rules and gets to live with the results of those rules and their enforcement. Every culture gets to pretend that its way is the ONLY way, if it so chooses. That is just one more of its rules.

jnette, ASN, EMT-I · Sep 25, 2003

I remember getting an email letter writing campain thing about 6-8 mos. ago with a link to the Oprah Winfrey show re this woman's dilemma... I very rarely sign onto these email things, but after reviewing it, I saw its legitimacy and signed my name to the many others protesting this atrocity.

I'm greatly relieved for this woman and her child.

Todd SPN · Sep 25, 2003

Originally posted by LPN2Be2004
Not on my planet it's a people's world from this angle.

Yes, times have changed throughout much of the world since a little before you were born. Male nurses are now more common

My sister was in Iran about 5 y/o. She wanted to do her daily run, so drove up into the hills where there were no houses or people. She of course did not go alone as that was forbidden. About 2 minutes into her run a car with 2 policemen pulled up out of nowhere wanting to know why she was not covered up because she was a female. They did not talk with her, rather the male that had accompanied her. Gave him a really hard time, but eventually left them go back to the car to get her covering.

indie · Sep 25, 2003

I lived in Iran many years ago and worked there as a Registered Nurse. There are as many decent, kind, thoughtful, educated, family-minded people there as here in the USA.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is that reasonable people do nothing." A quote from someone I have forgotten.

"Never underestimate the power of a few concerned citizens." Margaret Mead.

Please join a human rights organization and let us, at least, start discussing our various cultural perspectives on what is right or not.

I have belonged to Amnesty International as a member of the Freedom Writers Network for many years. I am often surprised by how often it is necessary to write to a "democratic" country's elected members about human rights issues. These countries have included the UK and the USA. (And what would Amnesty have said/done regarding the genocide of the Native Americans.)

And please let's forget the outdated term "3rd world country.' These are developing countries and for some citizens the process is more painful and takes more sacrifice than a civil war.

katscan · Sep 25, 2003

Sorry about the term, I honestly did not know it is outdated. Someone else had used the term earlier in another thread. I am a member of Amnesty International, and an familiar with the atrocities against women in these countries. However, I agree with an above poster that cultural mores are in the eye of the beholder. Male circumcision can be considered barbaric. We all need to work together to stop the suffering so often inflicted on the innocent or the suffering that is inflicted for outdated or unreasonable customs. Education is the key.

purplemania, BSN, RN · Sep 25, 2003

Heard on CNN she was not to be stoned because she was already 3 months pregnant when the law was enacted. However, subsequent cases will not have that leverage. Barbaric.

LuvsOB · Sep 25, 2003

sjoe

Cultural sensitivity has nothing to do with murdering young mothers. Most people in those cultures feel that practice is just plain wrong. Also there is no comparison between circumcision and murder.

barefootlady, ADN, RN · Sep 26, 2003

She may not be stoned but do we really know what her family will do to her privately? Where is the child and who was to have taken the child if she had been stoned? I would not be surprised to read in a year or so this woman died under mysterious circumstances. Family honor is a strict code in most of these countries.

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 26, 2003

Originally posted by LuvsOB
sjoe

Cultural sensitivity has nothing to do with murdering young mothers. Most people in those cultures feel that practice is just plain wrong. Also there is no comparison between circumcision and murder.

Yep. Not to mention the female cicumscision that is unecessarily done with NO pain medicine, and usually with the same rusty blade used on other women, that is NOT CULture, that is TORture.

Todd SPN · Sep 26, 2003

Originally posted by LPN2Be2004
Yep. Not to mention the female cicumscision that is unecessarily done with NO pain medicine, and usually with the same rusty blade used on other women, that is NOT CULture, that is TORture.

Hey, the guys don't get any pain med either.