Steer clear of this company!!

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Hi -

I hope this is the forum that will be seen by the most nurses in general, and especially nurses who work with diabetics and diabetic educators.

The name of the company is Armed for Life.com

I bought what LOOKED like really nice programs for my Palm pilot and my desk top (separate programs). The demo wasn't much of a muchly, it just showed some pages and forms and said buy the program! It looked good, so I bought it.

The price I paid was more than the price on the developer's website, the registration number did not come within the promised amount of time, and the program just totally did not live up to expectations. The info would post from palm to desktop but not the other way around. And if I entered it in the desktop (which is SO much easier than on that little palm!) not only did it not sync with the palm, but the new entry would disappear! Report function was completely unreadable..... I could go on and on... So I requested a refund. Here is the email that I received!!! I'll put the "customer service" answers in bold.

On 14 May 2003 at 21:54, [email protected] wrote:

In response to your email:

" I downloaded the Diabetes NOW and Diabetes NOW desktop

programs, and then purchased them online....... The demo version was not sufficient to give a good demo, in my opinion. The capabilities that are advertised don't work as well as stated."

If the demo did not give You a sufficient opinion about the program, You should not have purchased it. Developers put out demos so people can make informed decisions, after that it is up to the user to make up their own mind. After all this is not Wal-Mart.

" I purchased them using the Palm website, and when I visited your website, I found that I there is a bundled price for the two programs, but I was charged $10.95 for one and $14.95 for the other."

Yes, you are correct. That is the cost of doing business on other sites. It is not my fault you did not find this on my site first.

Anyway I think the real issue here is the cost difference between the two websites, after all that is the first subject in your email.

If you did not like Windows after you installed it, do think Microsoft

would give you a refund? It is sad that people are always trying to get something for nothing, but they never do. Things like this result in higher prices for everyone.

Let me repeat for emphasis: "It is sad that people are always trying to get something for nothing, but they never do. Things like this result in higher prices for everyone"

I also think that it was particularly heinous that this person would make personal insults and libelous remarks -- basically accusing me of something akin to shoplifting! -- but not sign the email.

Anyway, my hope is that NOBODY ever buys anything from this company. I can't say that I know that all their products are this bad, but I have to assume so.

Thanks

Love

Dennie

Specializes in ORTHOPAEDICS-CERTIFIED SINCE 89.

I think i downloaded ours from the onetouch site for free. The biggest cost was a replacement cable maybe $9.

How about writing to the consumer affairs department of the state Sir Jac........is from. Pure deception. Does the credit card you used at this company say anything?

P_RN, Hi. I just went there and downloaded. I think it's going to work perfectly. I really don't need the info on my palm, this will work better, since the info is already on the onetouch, and I can just fill in the meds and carbs, etc., when I get back to my desktop.

Apparently the company are receiving emails. I actually think it's just one person - and I was probably his first and last customer! I think it's really nice that some of you wrote to support my point of view, and I appreciate it.

I truly did not post this in hopes that this would happen, as I know it takes time and effort. And I think the guy is getting defensive, and I'm getting the refund! Yay. Thanks for your help!

I just wish I'd never gotten involved. I have a sinking feeling that this guy has my personal information AND my credit card information. In my form requesting a refund from the download site, I made a note that I'd like to make sure that he does NOT.

Love

Dennie

Specializes in Everything but psych!.

I am a diabetes educator. Information noted and stored in my memory bank. Thanks for sharing. Glad you got your money back.

Specializes in Gerontological, cardiac, med-surg, peds.

Dennie, sent a rather benign email to the company; this was the reply:

I consider this harassment. I never talked to you about anything. I know all to well about harassment/stalking laws. I suggest you cease and desist from this kind of action. Also you might want to pass this along to others. I am starting to compile a list of email addresses and I will be contacting the appropriate service providers Monday morning.

:eek:

What an utterly negative personality.

Specializes in Telemetry, Case Management.

What a horse's behind! Report him to BBB and anybody and everybody that you can!!!

Dennie, I got the same response. Obviously, he has mistaken my dismay with his business response for harassment and obviously I am misunderstood if he thinks I am harassing him. I may just tell him that, too. My version of an "apology." (Sounds alot like his, eh?

Specializes in Med-Surg Nursing.

Thanks for the warning. Never heard of this company but I surely won't do any business with them.

Specializes in Alzheimer's, Geriatrics, Chem. Dep..
Originally posted by NurseDennie

the program just totally did not live up to expectations.

You are hitting them right where they live -- and you should! I wish there was a way to get the word out there more. Maybe a national better business bureau? They might be interested in the response you received.

Freakin' amateurs! How did they ever get in business anyway?

Maybe you could write back and request to speak to the manager or owner, or is there a phone number? They might be interested in that email too. I can't imagine that it was the OWNER who would write such a ridiculous thing!

Have you tried contacting Consumer Reports. I believe you have a valid claim, The product said it would do things that it did not do.

This is just another idea of somewhere to kick him in the butt.

Good luck

Thanks for the info, I sent the link on to a friend interested in diabetes education.

I used your link and went to this web site and what appauls me the most is that he has Biblical verses and talks about FORGIVENESS ETC this I find terrible, I don't understand how anyone can speak to another person this way and do business this way and claim to be Christian He does use ebay there was a button there so make sure you rate him poorly there to save another person from going thru this..... I did't even realize that I had this site bookmarked for the prayer program I certainly won't buy it from him now, Rhonda

Thanks so much, everybody.

I've kind of gone back to my normal, apathetic state. I think I've decided that this is some 13 year old monkey-child, and he's thrown this program together because something bad happened to his family and they can't afford to give him his allowance any more.

I almost don't have the heart to finish going after the refund. *sigh* Now I'm feeling sorry for him.

Love

Dennie

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