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ADNRN · Feb 2, 2004

Originally posted by cheerfuldoer
ADNRN "wannabe" (your NOT a nurse so why do you use that title???)

Anyhoo:rolleyes:......With your present day attitude about nurses and nursing, even Mother Theresa would have scolded you. Of all people, don't compare yourself to her. She exuded what most people couldn't begin to exude from themselves. She had heart, determination, a spirit of caring and compassion for those who truly needed her kind of spunk and spirit for living........the list is endless. Using her name the way you do only proves you are trying to jerk everybody's chain here at allnurses. What is it that you are really seeking besides the negative attention you are drawing to yourself so far? How can we really help you?

Life's lessons prove that no matter how much power and status a person seeking power and status have, they always want more. Some people think they are above the law, and even above their Creator God when it comes to power and status. You wouldn't be one of these people now would you?

Paragraph 1: You think that's bad, you should see me e-mail address.

Paragraph 2: Did I say I was like Mother Teresa? I said I want to be like Mother Teresa. I'm not like her...yet. And why do you think I need your help with something? Why do you think the attention I'm getting is negative? I didn't. Are you giving me negative attention?

Paragraph 3: I agree with everything you said in this paragraph. Absolutely. And no, I don't think I'm above God--I'm a monist, I think I am God.

I would like to point out one thing, however. You acuse me of comparing myself to Mother Teresa because I said I want to be like her. But you said, "Mother Teresa would scold me." for my nursing attitude. Since you don't know me, you don't know Mother Teresa, and Mother Teresa doesn't know me, and I don't know her, how could you possible know that she would scold me? Ah, wait a minute...you are identifying with MT and then putting your own feelings about me into your version of her. Hmmm?

Just so you know: I only aspire to be like Mother Teresa. Jeez, I wouldn't actually think I was her:p

live4today, RN · Feb 2, 2004

You know what "ADNRN"............the only thing I enjoy seeing on your post thus far is the picture of that very cute doggie you use as an avatar! Go love on him/her awhile and see if your mood doesn't mellow out somewhat. Pets are known for mellowing people out when they aren't feeling well. Sounds to me like you could use a little pet attention. Have a nice day!

athomas91 · Feb 2, 2004

Paragraph 3: I agree with everything you said in this paragraph. Absolutely. And no, I don't think I'm above God--I'm a monist, I think I am God

with this one statement - you have just made yourself into a liar of everyone of your other previous posts....if you knew anything about Jesus/God/Bible or nursing - you would know that what you just said is sacreligous....

this only prooves that your posts are inflammatory and that you have nothing to contribute other than you want to argue....good day.

gypsyatheart · Feb 2, 2004

Originally posted by ADNRN
How we seek status. Get the LPN so that you're better than the CNA, get the CNA so that you're better than the housekeeper. Get the RN so that you're better than the LPN, CNA or houskeeper. Get the BSN so that you're better than the ADN, and get the MSN so that you're better than just the ordinary BSN. But lots of people have MSNs so leave nursing altogether and become an NP And then go for the PhD, but don't stop there! One really needs to also be a fellow of the american academy of nurses and have a national certification. But then you're going to need a job to go with all that, so go work for the government or get on some editorial board of some nursing journal, or scrounge for research dollars at a university. Whatever you do--make the big bucks, because that's how you really prove you're better than just a bedside caregiver.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about power and status--I just want the real thing. I want the power and status Mother Teresa had.

May I suggest that you speak for yourself....? Who are the "we" you speak of? WHO, exactly, is seeking status? Upon your very flawed analysis....

You seem to be the one w/issues regarding nursing, status, education and clearly, your mistaken idea that you are Christ! LOL :chuckle :chuckle

Actually, you remind me more and more of the personality type: delusional schizophrenic....hmmmm.

Your posts over the last few days have been inflammatory and troll-like. If you really ARE a nursing student, don't you have some REAL work to be doing? Like REALLY learning about nursing.

Seems like you think you already know everything you need to know about being a nurse...PUHLEEZE.

Grow up, come back after you've actually passed boards, worked through your 1st year as a REAL nurse. I guarantee you, this sarcastic, inflammatory attitude won't last long once you get a taste of the real thing ,baby!

sarita279 · Feb 2, 2004

I think your first step to becoming Mother Theresa would be to stop posting so much on this board. Somehow I don't see her as the type to be sitting around writing message board posts while she had a little more important things to do, don't you think so?

Sure ya do... :cool:

nurseygrrl, LPN · Feb 2, 2004

As I am still trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here....could you please explain how you first called Mother Teresa arrogant and now you claim that you want to be like her?

Many of your topics are interesting and thought provoking, but this is just so blatantly contradictory...what's up?

Alnamvet · Feb 2, 2004

what a bunch of (edited for foul language ...can't stand it when someone has a thought provoking opinion......you'rre all on my edited for foul language list, 'cepting op...no wonder the only enemy a nurse has is another nurse.

ADNRN · Feb 2, 2004

Originally posted by athomas91
with this one statement - you have just made yourself into a liar of everyone of your other previous posts....if you knew anything about Jesus/God/Bible or nursing - you would know that what you just said is sacreligous....

this only prooves that your posts are inflammatory and that you have nothing to contribute other than you want to argue....good day.

I don't know. Jesus said it all the time, and then he said I should be one with him and the two of us should be one with God. Go figure. And I don't really think I hid the point that I'm a monist, given the nursing philosophy I wrote. But why should facts like that stand in the way of a good judgement of SACRELIGIOUS! Especially, when a person has run out of things to say.

Peeps Mcarthur · Feb 2, 2004

Don't know what the negative aspects of money,prestige and power would be but i'm positive I don't want to be anything like mother theresa either.

I'm kind to people an all, but there's only so much kindness you can bestow on someone before it starts to become awkward anyway. Like "why is that little ol' lady still smiling at me?"....."Ok, she's still there....alright....ma'am?!.....ma'am?! .......yea you....Can you not do that please?

I don't think that taking care of the sick is worth much if you don't put some effort into it. Sure it's nice to give them some common comforts like cleaning them up and talking to them and such, but how much effort does a person have to really give to be of use to a patient in that capacity? How much personal sacrifice is really needed to prepare for an undergraduate position? It's too easy to not try to achieve some academic goals and call that sacrifice.

Let's talk about personal sacrifice.

I've gone through ALOT of classes and done some real suffering, both physicaly and emotionaly to maintain a GPA through 57 credits with another 40 to go just to get the prerequisites out of the way for the masters in PA. I've dissected numerous gross cadavers of various species, written scientific papers about mucles and mealworms, learned reams of mathematical formulas, various theories, and all of it while holding 25-30 hour work weeks.

Why am I knocking myself out over all of this? So I can some day get into a school where I will learn what to do to heal people. I will be able to go anywhere and heal the sick, ridding them of pain, anxiety and fear. I will diagnose and treat disease......and yes, I will also take pleasure in being "nice" to people. I will still be qualified to clean them up, give them a blanket, water, someone to listen to them.

So you see.........this mother theresa thing is just all talk until you sacrifice, REALLY sacrifice, your own personal comfort so you can achieve a position that will do the most good that YOU PERSONALLY can do.

If some money,prestige and title come along with it............well then, that's a reward I'll just have to live with;)

ADNRN · Feb 2, 2004

Originally posted by HerEyes73
As I am still trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here....could you please explain how you first called Mother Teresa arrogant and now you claim that you want to be like her?

Many of your topics are interesting and thought provoking, but this is just so blatantly contradictory...what's up?

I said she was innocently arrogant. And then later I took it back because I think I may have been wrong--given that I don't know her. I first based that statement on the idea that she may have believed she could serve God in some capacity. In order to think that way, one has to consider themselves a separate entity from God. To consider oneself as such, even in a subordinate position is arrogant because it assumes an independent, self-sustaining existence.

Having said all that. I have no idea what Mother Teresa believed about herself or God, so I have to take back what I said about her being arrogant. Maybe she was; maybe she wasn't. I don't know.

So go ahead and keep giving me the benefit of the doubt. I mean you don't really want to join that other choir do you? You know, the one that has me pegged as:

Monsterous

dangerous

little

ignorant

inexperienced

sacreligious

mean

untrusting

disenfranchised

jealous

troll

inflammer

schizophrenic

et cetra, ad nauseum (Can a person really be all those things?)

You do realize, I've never personally attacked anyone in here, and I never will, so by all means give me the benefit of the doubt, it's more fun that way.

ADNRN · Feb 2, 2004

Originally posted by Peeps Mcarthur
Don't know what the negative aspects of money,prestige and power would be but i'm positive I don't want to be anything like mother theresa either.
I'm kind to people an all, but there's only so much kindness you can bestow on someone before it starts to become awkward anyway. Like "why is that little ol' lady still smiling at me?"....."Ok, she's still there....alright....ma'am?!.....ma'am?! .......yea you....Can you not do that please?

I don't think that taking care of the sick is worth much if you don't put some effort into it. Sure it's nice to give them some common comforts like cleaning them up and talking to them and such, but how much effort does a person have to really give to be of use to a patient in that capacity? How much personal sacrifice is really needed to prepare for an undergraduate position? It's too easy to not try to achieve some academic goals and call that sacrifice.

Let's talk about personal sacrifice.

I've gone through ALOT of classes and done some real suffering, both physicaly and emotionaly to maintain a GPA through 57 credits with another 40 to go just to get the prerequisites out of the way for the masters in PA. I've dissected numerous gross cadavers of various species, written scientific papers about mucles and mealworms, learned reams of mathematical formulas, various theories, and all of it while holding 25-30 hour work weeks.

Why am I knocking myself out over all of this? So I can some day get into a school where I will learn what to do to heal people. I will be able to go anywhere and heal the sick, ridding them of pain, anxiety and fear. I will diagnose and treat disease......and yes, I will also take pleasure in being "nice" to people. I will still be qualified to clean them up, give them a blanket, water, someone to listen to them.

So you see.........this mother theresa thing is just all talk until you sacrifice, REALLY sacrifice, your own personal comfort so you can achieve a position that will do the most good that YOU PERSONALLY can do.

If some money,prestige and title come along with it............well then, that's a reward I'll just have to live with;)

So, you're going to be an MD? And you think that by training to be an MD, you are sacrificing so that you will be qualified to do the most good for people. Well, I think that's great. But won't you need a nurse to care for your patients after you've left the floor? I mean, you will have to leave the floor at some point won't you? Who's going to call you when your patients start to go bad?

Or do you think that all nurses should train to be MDs--ultimately?

But then who would do the nursing?

I'm not sure I follow you. I'm not sure I know why you're on a BB for nurses. Not that you can't be on this BB, but it's not really your profession--is it?

Sheri257 · Feb 2, 2004

This may upset some people ...

But I'm going into nursing for the money and career stability ...

Not power, not status. Just so I can have a steady job where, hopefully, I won't get laid off or downsized without having other job options.

I'm just being honest. I ain't no Mother Teresa and don't pretend to be.