Staff Nurses Who Refuse To Precept Or Teach?

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Of course I understand that not everyone wants to be a teacher or professor but a few of my coworkers lately have down right refused to precept or even be a resource to newer or less experienced nurses.

The education department had placed a sign up sheet for preceptor training courses and one of my colleagues very adamantly professed her disdain for teaching or precepting and that it "just wasn't in her to teach".

ok fine, but IMO it sounded a bit condescending and selfish of one to refuse to share nursing knowledge. She does everything to get out of precepting or cross training nurses. Seems unprofessional to me.

I was giving bedside report to a MICU RN who recently transferred to the SICU and the patient was a postop neurosurgery case with an EVD and ICP monitoring. I gave her an overview of what the drain was, how to manage it and transduce for IC pressures. I then told her to refer to Ms. Senior RN who is real good with neuro for any questions after I left. I then spoke to Ms. Senior RN and told her that I endorsed an EVD/ICP monitoring to Ms. New SICU RN and perhaps she could guide her throughout the shift on the neuro patient, she then promptly rolled her eyes and asked why I had to refer the new SICU RN to her?? (Mind you she is one of the most knowledgeable nurses in our ICU but I've never seen her precepting and she doesn't offer up knowledge freely either)

Like really? After almost 12 years of nursing this issue still grinds my gears. We should all be willing to help/guide one another. Sure sometimes I'm not in the mood to teach, or my orientee is not a fast learner or another RN asks for my help when I'm super busy, but either way I roll up my sleeves and get it done because if the shoe was on the other foot (like it has been many times) I would want someones help to guide-teach-assist me.

I don't mean to make this medicine vs nursing but physicians are expected to teach and mentor from the time they graduate medical school they are thrust into mentoring those behind them.

IMO nursing lags behind with this. Is it because we lack pride in our profession?, or feel like victims that we cannot and often do not embody a leadership mentality?

Perhaps its it's just part of the nurses eating their young/lateral violence that is far too prevalent in our profession.

On my unit its the same RNs who precept everyone while others flat out refuse and go years without precepting. I love to teach and came to this job with experience and for that reason I've literally been precepting since I came off orientation/probation myself (yes crazy I know) because many nurses just refuse to teach on my unit.

Heck when I was new to this facility myself a few years back my assigned preceptor (who didn't realize I was sitting nearby) flat out refused to orient anyone (she later apologized saying it was nothing personal when she realized I was in an earshot of her comment)

All nurses should have pride in their work/profession enough to want to share their wealth of knowledge at some level. You may not pursue a masters in nursing education or a PhD but you can still be a resource for you unit and colleagues, that's at least the minimum that should be required of you.

*sigh* just venting.

Personally I wouldn't want to be precepted by someone who didn't want to teach. I don't think it is every nurses's responsibility to precept either. To give help to a new nurse, yes--to formally precept, no.

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.

My facility requires those who want to precept to apply for such a position and take a course in how to be a preceptor. It comes with $1/hour extra when working with an orientee. As an educator, I have actually refused to sign off on a preceptor application from someone well known to have a poor attitude and become verbally aggressive (the nurse manager also did not want to sign off on the application). It's a way to reward those willing to precept while ensuring that those who are orienting are paired with someone who knows how to be a preceptor, wants to be a preceptor, and has been approved to be a preceptor.

Specializes in icu,prime care,mri,ct, cardiology, pacu,.

I liked to precept new nurses. I learn right along with them. I have lots of experience as a nurse, and like the relationship that develops between the preceptor and preceptee.

Specializes in SICU,CTICU,PACU.

i don't like when managers/institutions force senior nurses to precept or do things they don't want to/are not good at. why would anyone want to do something they aren't good at or don't like, they will be poor preceptors no matter how much experience they have. personality and the desire to teach make the best preceptors. also, just because you have a lot of experience doesn't make you a good nurse.

Specializes in ED.

I don't like precepting and I'm not good at it. I'm impatient and I don't wait around for my preceptee when things need to be done so that they can have a "teaching moment." In the ED, I am about the opposite of what a new hire needs. I don't mind being a resource, but it's stupid to force nurses to precept when they know it's not for them. You're only hurting the new hire. Step on down from those high horses, good lord.

Specializes in Case manager, float pool, and more.
My facility requires those who want to precept to apply for such a position and take a course in how to be a preceptor. It comes with $1/hour extra when working with an orientee. As an educator, I have actually refused to sign off on a preceptor application from someone well known to have a poor attitude and become verbally aggressive (the nurse manager also did not want to sign off on the application). It's a way to reward those willing to precept while ensuring that those who are orienting are paired with someone who knows how to be a preceptor, wants to be a preceptor, and has been approved to be a preceptor.

My facility does the same thing. Although I wish it was $1 more an hour. We don't get pain more money but we do have those who sign up for it and take a course as well. Personally I like teaching/precepting but I think it is a disservice to the new hire/ new nurse to be paired with someone who hates it, has a bad attitude about it, etc.

Specializes in ICU; Telephone Triage Nurse.

Every one of us were precepted, without exception. We all had to learn from someone else first. I always felt it was my JOB to precept when called upon to do so. I never minded because I never forgot that feeling of being new and knowing squat. Or at times being unwanted, feeling like a millstone around another nurse's neck. I'd rather they be with me than someone who would be hostile. Being new is scary.

Specializes in NICU, Telephone Triage.

As a nurse, after so many years of being a nurse (27 1/2) I really don't want to have the added stress of helping a new nurse. I've done it enough over the years and it's not required, so nurses who want to do it should, those of us who don't, shouldn't. It will also be better for the new nurse not to be trained by a nurse who doesn't want to train!

Oh my what a Pandora's box I have opened.

Then I wonder what if no one on a unit wants to precept and this I ask speaking from experience.

Two years ago every nurse the manager approached refused to precept so she had to mandate someone... oh boy what do you think of that then?

Well I'm thankful for those who precepted me way back when, whether they felt like it or not at least they were professional enough not to let it show and exercise patience and I'm sure with me under their wing it wasn't that bad at all (as that I was released from orientation early as a new grad working trauma, yes I am bragging)

It's just precepting it isn't the end of your nursing career, I'm sure most of you aren't approached to precept a new nurse every 6 weeks like my current job (our turnover is horrendous) and goodness $1/hr extra for precepting, what a joke!

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.

I just wish our current staffing would allow for an actual preceptor. We have been pairing a new orientee with a nurse that has been employed for less than 3 months because she was the only nurse scheduled that day that regularly works the shift. She's good, but she's new herself. We have a few experienced nurses that have a less than positive attitude, the only thing a new orientee gets from them is a bunch of complaining while the orientee does all the work. Now I'm all for hands on learning, but that shouldn't mean the orientee works while the training nurse watches, complains about work and gossips about other staff.

Sigh, now I'm off to work myself so everybody have a great day!

You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to think you're wrong

Feel free to do so, but based on the comments responding to your posts, it would seem you're in the minority.

Is it wrong to pray that whoever gets stuck with me when I start my first new grad job in a couple of weeks likes having the newbie underfoot?

How can I be a good orientee? I want to get off to a good start learning how to be a nurse.

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