Can we start with grammer, speling, and punctiation?
I am amazed at the number of postings in here that assault the written English language. I am not referring to perfection, Lord knows I make plenty of mistakes myself. I am definitely not referring to those who's first language is not English. I am speaking to the outright ignoring of the basics.
It doesn't take but a second to capitalize your "I's." Really it doesn't.
Perhaps I am just old, cranky, and out of touch with the texting generation.
But when i c posts with run on sentencis multiple mispels lack of punctuation like apostophes in conjuctions im wonderin if u r able 2 c what im saying lol i mean. omg. we look like illiterit.
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P.S. to Grammar Nazis here, yes the wored "conjunction' was on purpos.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
gutter catyour actions were simply childish. you made a point, i had my thoughts on it, and in making my point, i was respectful. you, on the other hand tried (tried) to belittle me, and now you are trying to clean it up. lets not try to simplify your actions. it just goes to show, education does not a respectable person make.
your comment about childish actions rather reminds me of the old adage "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." by the way, my name is ruby vee, not "ruby bee." i would also make the point that mangling someone's name is highly disrespectful.
You all call it text speak, yet I wouldn't send out text messages the way some of these posts look! I'm on the young side, I text regularly, and I own a phone with a full QWERTY keyboard, autocorrect, spell check, and predictive typing. Even before that I didn't use u, r, etc. I had a phone with T9 then and still corrected what I was typing so it was right. Saying u and r was a time saver when texting was an arduous process of pressing a key 3 times to get the letter you wanted, but now it just makes people look dumb and lazy in my opinion. It's even worse on a message board, Facebook, or in e-mail.
I see older people doing it as well. I work with some older people that write on Facebook and such like that. It drives me nuts because they don't even have the internet on their phones, so I know they're actually typing like that on a real keyboard.
In a day an age where people have to submit digital resumes, e-mail their boss, and chart on a computer, keyboarding fluently is a basic life skill, or at least job skill. Master it.
I'm not a grammar nazi, but your and you're is a pet peeve of mine too. To me, they're not even pronounced the same way.
I am a professional. I prefer to conduct myself as a professional. I make a huge difference in the life of my patients and how their care is planned and executed. It is a conscious decision on my part to do so. I have the inner satisfaction of knowing that my skills and decision to serve contribute to making life better. And sometimes my patients notice and thank me. I throw out a couple of quotes from Wikipedia just for fun:
"Professions enjoy a high social status, regard and esteem conferred upon them by society. This high esteem arises primarily from the higher social function of their work, which is regarded as vital to society as a whole and thus of having a special and valuable nature. All professions involve technical, specialised and highly skilled work often referred to as "professional expertise." Training for this work involves obtaining degrees and professional qualifications (see Licensure) without which entry to the profession is barred (occupational closure). Training also requires regular updating of skills through continuing education."
". . . A profession is characterised by the power and high prestige it has in society as a whole. It is the power, prestige and value that society confers upon a profession that more clearly defines it."
And my patients do expect that they can trust me, a nurse.
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singinRN, I completely understand the need to "let your hair down." I get that.
But this is a highly visible, public forum representing our profession. I agree that some of the rules around here can be a bit like the workplace...
...regardless, can we please let our hair down without lookin like idjits? Taking the miniscule amount of time required to use a few punctuation marks and correct grammar to the best of our ability, floats all of our boats a bit higher. :)
A former boss and current friend of mine once told me, "If I'm going to go get stoopid, I'm going to go to some town where no one knows me, or what I do."
Yes it is highly visible, I agree. It is a place where people are sharing thoughts, encouragement, and sometimes even venting. You can't tell me that every time someone posts, especially if it is charged with emotion, that they can't make it more conversational, colloquial, or use a bit of slang/text speak or what have you.
I guess what we should do is understand what we are here for. Are we trying to make allnurses.com a meeting ground for nurses and onlookers to get a "real picture" or a place where we need to put on that we are always perfectly polished? It's unreal to me. I'm just saying, let's keep it real when we need to, because we all know we know where capital letters go and commas and periods. Being able to relax amongst "peers" is what I came for. Even though I tend to use periods and commas
Seriously? Who told you this was an "educated profession"?It's obviously not as far as I can tell.
All you ADN RN's are bringing us down and making us look unprofessional!
Now if we all had our BSN's I'm sure we'd become literate writers and professional overnight. OMG what a great excuse to go back to school and get saddled with more student loan debt than we already have! I'll pass!
Yes it is highly visible, I agree. It is a place where people are sharing thoughts, encouragement, and sometimes even venting. You can't tell me that every time someone posts, especially if it is charged with emotion, that they can't make it more conversational, colloquial, or use a bit of slang/text speak or what have you.
I guess what we should do is understand what we are here for. Are we trying to make allnurses.com a meeting ground for nurses and onlookers to get a "real picture" or a place where we need to put on that we are always perfectly polished? It's unreal to me. I'm just saying, let's keep it real when we need to, because we all know we know where capital letters go and commas and periods. Being able to relax amongst "peers" is what I came for. Even though I tend to use periods and commas
Well though out post singinRN.
I think we more agree, than disagree.
"Relaxing amongst peers" is probably why the majority of us are here. Shrugging off the day's work and worry, and sitting down with a cup of coffee to see what folks have to say, exchange some whacky banter, and even learn a thing or two is a great resource.
I even had a post edited by a mod for being a little too "colorful" in my choice of wording. Ooops.
I still stand my original assertion though, which is that posts filled without even the slightest attention to a few basic rules of writing lower the bar for everyone, not just the poster. Imho, it's lazy and akin to shopping at Wal Mart in your pajamas.
There seem to be many threads here pertaining to the general public, doctors and employers not respecting us for what we do, what we know, and what we are responsible for.
Does anyone here think that none of the above ever read these forums?
This irritates me to no end. Text speak? I don't even read. One of my pet peeves has always been misspelled words, or using the wrong form of a word (ie there, their, they're)Not sure why it bothers me so much, has since I was a child.
Wanting this to be a place that is relaxing is all well and good.
Relaxed is omitting some punctuation etc.
Your for you're, there for their, sezur for seizure etc is not in the same category.
Certain assumptions are often made by others when someone is unable to communicate in writing without major errors. Agree or disagree, valid or invalid, that person is frequently perceived as not quite as knowledgeable as someone who writes without glaring errors.
And yes, I do care that I present myself as knowledgeable and educated to other members of the healthcare team. One of my most important roles is that of patient advocate. It makes it very difficult to advocate through the various groups and chains if you are not respected as knowledgeable.
Now let me add, I have previously refrained from expressing my thoughts on grammar on this forum. I know that as soon as I do, I will make a huge whopping embarassing error. :) So maybe I should just go ahead, do it and get it over with.
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Then again, some of it could be the forum, because it just reformatted my last post.