Can we start with grammer, speling, and punctiation?
I am amazed at the number of postings in here that assault the written English language. I am not referring to perfection, Lord knows I make plenty of mistakes myself. I am definitely not referring to those who's first language is not English. I am speaking to the outright ignoring of the basics.
It doesn't take but a second to capitalize your "I's." Really it doesn't.
Perhaps I am just old, cranky, and out of touch with the texting generation.
But when i c posts with run on sentencis multiple mispels lack of punctuation like apostophes in conjuctions im wonderin if u r able 2 c what im saying lol i mean. omg. we look like illiterit.
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P.S. to Grammar Nazis here, yes the wored "conjunction' was on purpos.
Your response only shows that you are aged but not mature. Thanks for UR correction but I purposely wrote incorrectly. Now do me a favor and go edit the rest of my posts. If you feel UR job is to go after each word a person posts, perhaps you should get a job on that kind of site and leave nursing to people who TRULY care about other people
Whoops SweetP,
Nothing wrong with engaging in a discussion by disagreeing, and I have no problem if you do. I actually enjoy hearing others' viewpoints, yours too. But there's no need to be so personallydisagreeable.
I don't have a problem disagreeing/agreeing. Right then I had a problem with you patronizing me by correcting my post. Your passive aggressive behavior showed through your action on this site and I addressed it. As a nurse, my mother has always taught me to never make it seem like I'm better than anyone, but you did the opposite of that when you decided to be my editor
" I meant simply what I said: this is not a profession. It just isn't. It isn't realistic to assert that a job where the minimum barrier to be called a nurse is an LPN training program that you finish in a year at technical school is a profession. It isn't."Anyone else take issue with this statement? You are entitled to your opinion but I imagine many would disagree. I certainly do.As to the topic on hand, I notice poor grammar and spelling from many nurses- old, young, and even those who have pursued advanced education. I think it may be a reflection of our society in general.
it's not that big of a deal. this is a casual message board. i'm sure people on here arent typing up their resumes the same way they talk on this board. i understand what you mean when the sentences are just terribly written and hard to understand. but talking about a simple apostrophe? capitalizing the letter "i"?? that's a bit overboard.
and as you can see, i violated these rules. but i'm sure you all can still understand what i'm saying.
After writing "coorifice" breath sounds all day, I catch myself doing this one.
Funny thing is it is not just "text speak". I saw a post the other day and the person kept saying "of coorifice". This was repeated several times in the post. It may seem like nit picking but it really does look unprofessional when basic spelling rules are ignored.
I wonder how well this holds up in court. In my LPN program, good writing and charting skills were practically beaten into us. If a physician or nurse ends up in court and their charting lacks basic English skills, how seriously do you think they will be taken? Can you honestly tell me that these errors won't effect the perception of their clinical practice?
I was a paralegal for five years before I became a nurse. I have worked on med/mals before. No lawyer would bring up writing skills because it would seem petty and irrelevant to the jury. It's also insulting: if we are here to discuss a serious transgression in clinical behavior, it isn't appropriate to have a snarky sidebar on someone's writing skills when someone has died or is permanently injured.Hope that helps...
" I meant simply what I said: this is not a profession. It just isn't. It isn't realistic to assert that a job where the minimum barrier to be called a nurse is an LPN training program that you finish in a year at technical school is a profession. It isn't."Anyone else take issue with this statement? You are entitled to your opinion but I imagine many would disagree. I certainly do.As to the topic on hand, I notice poor grammar and spelling from many nurses- old, young, and even those who have pursued advanced education. I think it may be a reflection of our society in general.
Included in the definition of profession that I learned in college is a minimum education level of at least a bachelors degree. Similarly, a profession must meet all of the definition to qualify as a profession. We simply do not qualify. We simply don't.
I was a paralegal for five years before I became a nurse. I have worked on med/mals before. No lawyer would bring up writing skills because it would seem petty and irrelevant to the jury. It's also insulting: if we are here to discuss a serious transgression in clinical behavior, it isn't appropriate to have a snarky sidebar on someone's writing skills when someone has died or is permanently injured.Hope that helps...
It does, thanks. I guess I'm more judgmental than most. If someone can't speak/write their native language well, I would question their ability to do more difficult things, like practice medicine. I assumed others would feel the same way. I'm glad to know that it isn't much of an issue--I'm still new and paranoid about my charting.
I don't have a problem disagreeing/agreeing. Right then I had a problem with you patronizing me by correcting my post. Your passive aggressive behavior showed through your action on this site and I addressed it. As a nurse, my mother has always taught me to never make it seem like I'm better than anyone, but you did the opposite of that when you decided to be my editor
By your reactive response to light ribbing (with a smiley emoticon no less) I'd interpret that as having a problem with disagreeing.
It does, thanks. I guess I'm more judgmental than most. If someone can't speak/write their native language well, I would question their ability to do more difficult things, like practice medicine. I assumed others would feel the same way. I'm glad to know that it isn't much of an issue--I'm still new and paranoid about my charting.
Don't worry so much about the writing. Worry about stuff like transfusions, wrong site, wrong procedures and failure to rescue. Those are the big big issues. I'm sure your charting is fine. :-)
Gutter catYour actions were simply childish. You made a point, I had my thoughts on it, and in making my point, I was respectful. You, on the other hand tried (TRIED) to belittle me, and now you are trying to clean it up. Lets not try to simplify your actions. It just goes to show, education does not a respectable person make.
It is quite funny to me because now I definitely will ask you a revised version of your original question.... So you wanted to be respected as an educated professional????????
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Whoops SweetP,
Nothing wrong with engaging in a discussion by disagreeing, and I have no problem if you do. I actually enjoy hearing others' viewpoints, yours too. But there's no need to be so personally disagreeable.