Can we start with grammer, speling, and punctiation?
I am amazed at the number of postings in here that assault the written English language. I am not referring to perfection, Lord knows I make plenty of mistakes myself. I am definitely not referring to those who's first language is not English. I am speaking to the outright ignoring of the basics.
It doesn't take but a second to capitalize your "I's." Really it doesn't.
Perhaps I am just old, cranky, and out of touch with the texting generation.
But when i c posts with run on sentencis multiple mispels lack of punctuation like apostophes in conjuctions im wonderin if u r able 2 c what im saying lol i mean. omg. we look like illiterit.
:)
P.S. to Grammar Nazis here, yes the wored "conjunction' was on purpos.
Sorry to dredge this thread, but it is a subject that I hold quite dearly. My spelling and grammar isn't perfect either, and I don't expect everyone else to be perfect. I am annoyed by "textspeak" as it is mentioned, but I consider that just lazy typing. However, I draw a line between people who could write better but don't and people who simply can't. No matter how nice or charming that person is, I have a very hard time taking them seriously if they write as if they are functionally retarded. My opinion won't be popular, but to me this shows either a deficiency in intelligence, or a lack of motivation to master the basics of something, even something they use every day for their entire life.
I don't think this is an arrogant nor elitist attitude. I do however think that someones ability to read and write says a lot about them. Flame me all you want, but we (native English speakers) have all gotten the same schooling by the 5th grade and we are all being held to the same standard. Employers, supervisors, co-workers, in-laws, and society in general will take note, so get it together if you don't have it.
Non-native English speakers get a pass of course, but it is sad when a lot of the ones I know can outperform a significant chunk of the natives at their own game.
Can we start with grammer, speling, and punctiation? I am amazed at the number of postings in here that assault the written English language. I am not referring to perfection, Lord knows I make plenty of mistakes myself. I am definitely not referring to those who's first language is not English. I am speaking to the outright ignoring of the basics. It doesn't take but a second to capitalize your "I's." Really it doesn't. Perhaps I am just old, cranky, and out of touch with the texting generation. But when i c posts with run on sentencis multiple mispels lack of punctuation like apostophes in conjuctions im wonderin if u r able 2 c what im saying lol i mean. omg. we look like illiterit. :) P.S. to Grammar Nazis here, yes the wored "conjunction' was on purpos.
Can we start by requiring that the entry level to Registered Nursing be BSN prepared?
Is that going to solve the sloppy writing? I've seen plenty of posts that claim to be authored by a BSN level RN, and I find myself thinking that a 10 year old may just be behind the actual post. Heck, through clinical I read back over nurses notes authored by BSN's, that leave me wondering what their nurse manager would think about the composition of their nursing note. "Pt can transfer 1, eat all breakfast refuse stol softener." In that spirit.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Can we start by requiring that the entry level to Registered Nursing be BSN prepared?
I don't think there is a huge difference in writing skills between different degrees on this forum. As to other reasons for and against that edict, the argument is in session down the hall and two doors to the right.
Sorry to dredge this thread, but it is a subject that I hold quite dearly. My spelling and grammar isn't perfect either, and I don't expect everyone else to be perfect. I am annoyed by "textspeak" as it is mentioned, but I consider that just lazy typing. However, I draw a line between people who could write better but don't and people who simply can't. No matter how nice or charming that person is, I have a very hard time taking them seriously if they write as if they are functionally retarded. My opinion won't be popular, but to me this shows either a deficiency in intelligence, or a lack of motivation to master the basics of something, even something they use every day for their entire life.
I don't think this is an arrogant nor elitist attitude. I do however think that someones ability to read and write says a lot about them. Flame me all you want, but we (native English speakers) have all gotten the same schooling by the 5th grade and we are all being held to the same standard. Employers, supervisors, co-workers, in-laws, and society in general will take note, so get it together if you don't have it.
Non-native English speakers get a pass of course, but it is sad when a lot of the ones I know can outperform a significant chunk of the natives at their own game.
Seeing you used the term "functionally retarded' your opinion on appropriate language skills and professionalism hold little value since you are struggling in both areas.
Seeing you used the term "functionally retarded' your opinion on appropriate language skills and professionalism hold little value since you are struggling in both areas.
I presume you dislike my usage of "The R-Word"?
Maybe I shouldn't have used it, as I know it is central to various debates. My apologies if it bothers you.
Is that going to solve the sloppy writing? I've seen plenty of posts that claim to be authored by a BSN level RN, and I find myself thinking that a 10 year old may just be behind the actual post. Heck, through clinical I read back over nurses notes authored by BSN's, that leave me wondering what their nurse manager would think about the composition of their nursing note. "Pt can transfer 1, eat all breakfast refuse stol softener." In that spirit.
Can we start by requiring that the entry level to Registered Nursing be BSN prepared?
I think this is a brilliant idea. You know that LPNs and ADN nurses can't write or spell. Every nurse should be a BSN because they have perfect grammar!
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
Can we start with grammer, speling, and punctiation?
I am amazed at the number of postings in here that assault the written English language. I am not referring to perfection, Lord knows I make plenty of mistakes myself. I am definitely not referring to those who's first language is not English. I am speaking to the outright ignoring of the basics.
It doesn't take but a second to capitalize your "I's." Really it doesn't.
Perhaps I am just old, cranky, and out of touch with the texting generation.
But when i c posts with run on sentencis multiple mispels lack of punctuation like apostophes in conjuctions im wonderin if u r able 2 c what im saying lol i mean. omg. we look like illiterit.
:)
P.S. to Grammar Nazis here, yes the wored "conjunction' was on purpos.
I know what you mean. I usually reread what I'm posting to make sure there are no typos, grammatical errors, misspells, etc. I have some trouble typing because of peripheral neuropathy, so I sometimes have typos and don't notice them because chemo has messed with my brain. What I don't understand is, if I can type a reasonably good paragraph in spite of chemo, what is the excuse other people use?
I absolutely cringe when I see text-speak or lol cats-speak. It's just plain lazy. It reminds me of when I was in first grade and they tried to teach us ITA, which was a way of learning to read using a phonetic alphabet. I didn't understand it, because I already knew how to read. I remember crying over it. Eventually they made a separate class for those of us who started school already knowing how to read. ITA was a disaster, and it didn't last long.
Allow me to share a tidbit of a fellow student's contributions to a group project we were doing in Sociology last year:
"We might of maid it if we could of drove to the stadiem right away but the crowde of peeple out-side mad it hard for us to get to are car so we took to long and got to the stadiem late and we missed the a first part of the game which was realy a bummer cause we we're exited to see the badger's play."
I know this isn't Nursing related, but here you go. I took it upon myself to rewrite everything that this student contributed to our project, which (for some reason) royally offended her. However, my name was on the paper too.
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
Funny thing is it is not just "text speak". I saw a post the other day and the person kept saying "of coorifice". This was repeated several times in the post. It may seem like nit picking but it really does look unprofessional when basic spelling rules are ignored.
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Sorry to dredge this thread, but it is a subject that I hold quite dearly. My spelling and grammar isn't perfect either, and I don't expect everyone else to be perfect. I am annoyed by "textspeak" as it is mentioned, but I consider that just lazy typing. However, I draw a line between people who could write better but don't and people who simply can't. No matter how nice or charming that person is, I have a very hard time taking them seriously if they write as if they are functionally retarded. My opinion won't be popular, but to me this shows either a deficiency in intelligence, or a lack of motivation to master the basics of something, even something they use every day for their entire life.
I don't think this is an arrogant nor elitist attitude. I do however think that someones ability to read and write says a lot about them. Flame me all you want, but we (native English speakers) have all gotten the same schooling by the 5th grade and we are all being held to the same standard. Employers, supervisors, co-workers, in-laws, and society in general will take note, so get it together if you don't have it.
Non-native English speakers get a pass of course, but it is sad when a lot of the ones I know can outperform a significant chunk of the natives at their own game.