I understand that private entities can control what speech is put on their media. But is that a wise idea not to air alternative points of view on huge powerhouses such as Youtube, facebook, Twitter Etc?
I'm thinking specifically of this Plandemic lady. I, personally, have not viewed her video. I'm not interested in her particular point of view. I have never felt the need to investigate every conspiracy theory out there.
I do think there is a lot of paranoia in sothat might be well earned. Social media such as facebook and Youtube wield enormous power and influence over public opinion.
The government has pulled a lot of sneaky tricks on the public over the years. I don't trust them. I also don't trust the Chinese government.
I don't trust large pharmaceutical companies or the mega-corporations. Their lust for money, power and influence is insatiable.
Should we give social media giants, who practically hold monopolies on the public form, the abilities to shut down conspiracy theories? I'll bet there are some true ones out there.
I think parents should have a right do not vaccinate their children, just as they have a right to feed them junk food.
Yes, but do they have a right to spread dangerous disinformation that could sway the less erudite among us to put their children at risk?
And if you think they do where exactly do we draw the line? Hate speech? Genocide? What is the subject that would make you say "well now you've gone too far"?
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23 hours ago, herring_RN said:
Who are "THEY"? I could only find one person in the media who said that.
I watch Jesse Watters myself. The statements attributed to him (and others not in the MSM) are often grossly distorted.
I personally believe the virus escaped from one of the Wuhan labs. Just too much of a coincidence. I think the wet markets are a red herring. When people all over the world are simultaneously sickened by the same thing, that is the definition of a pandemic.
It's a lot of work to sift the wheat from the chaff, information wise.
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26 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:
I watch Jesse Watters myself. The statements attributed to him (and others not in the MSM) are often grossly distorted.
I personally believe the virus escaped from one of the Wuhan labs. Just too much of a coincidence. I think the wet markets are a red herring. When people all over the world are simultaneously sickened by the same thing, that is the definition of a pandemic.
It's a lot of work to sift the wheat from the chaff, information wise.
What evidence have you seen which causes you to believe that the virus originated in a lab rather than in the wild? All science that I have seen refutes your belief.
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If you don't vaccinate your children they can spread contagious, vaccine preventable diseases. Your children can represent a danger to their larger community.
If you feed your children junk food they are not likely to spread their poor health habits to others as a contagion and they do not represent a danger to their larger community, just to themselves.
I agree, they should not have to vaccinate. But then I believe schools, medical entities,sports teams/groups and public areas should have the right to refuse them entry based on their choice.
I tend to fall into the way of thinking that the vulnerable should protect themselves rather than expect all of society to do so.
The same with this Pandemic. Should the whole society come to a halt to protect the medically vulnerable, even at the risk of undermining our economy?
I think a more logic, and less expensive route, is to provide economic and social support to the medically vulnerable to allow them to shelter at home, then reopening for the constitutionally stronger citizens to keep things going until better treatments and/or a vaccine.
I think a more logic, and less expensive route, is to provide economic and social support to the medically vulnerable to allow them to shelter at home, then reopening for the constitutionally stronger citizens to keep things going until better treatments and/or a vaccine.
Which would be fine except for that fact that asymptomatic people can be infectious. And while the largest percentage of people severely impacted are the elderly there is a good number of young people with no co-morbidities who have also been struck down. I’m not willing to play Russian roulette with my fellow human beings. I agree we should be opening up but cautiously and see how things play out. As it stands now my state is 90% open. In two weeks all hell could very likely break loose. But it’s “no worse than the flu”.
What evidence have you seen which causes you to believe that the virus originated in a lab rather than in the wild? All science that I have seen refutes your belief.
I have heard this also. There are Chinese scientists who worked at that lab that have stated this. Of course we will probably never get the truth from the Communist Chinese government. There were also Chinese MD's who tried to warn the public about the Wuhan virus (when it first started) but one has died and at least one is missing.
2 hours ago, TriciaJ said:
It's a lot of work to sift the wheat from the chaff, information wise.
I think parents should have a right do not vaccinate their children, just as they have a right to feed them junk food.
I tend to fall in the libertarian philosophy for many things. There are some exceptions to that such as environmental protection and I do think we need a national Healthcare System.
How libertarian? NAMBLA, KKK, Nazis all have unfettered access?
The first amendment protects offensive speech, private entities treat it differently, as they are businesses.
So- any restrictions on anybody, or complete free reign, barring legal violations?
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1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:
I have heard this also. There are Chinese scientists who worked at that lab that have stated this. Of course we will probably never get the truth from the Communist Chinese government. There were also Chinese MD's who tried to warn the public about the Wuhan virus (when it first started) but one has died and at least one is missing.
Darn near impossible!!
But what evidence have you heard or read that has caused you to believe that the virus originated in a lab when the scientific analysis states it has wild zoonotic origins. What has convinced you to believe otherwise?
But what evidence have you heard or read that has caused you to believe that the virus originated in a lab when the scientific analysis states it has wild zoonotic origins. What has convinced you to believe otherwise?
I didn't say originate and neither did Trisha, I believe the word used was escaped. Meaning they were working with/on the virus (not a man made created one) and the virus somehow got out into the public. Again, even though people who worked there and had knowledge of this and stated as much, we will probably never see "evidence" bc the Chinese gov had plenty of time to make sure of that.
I posted an article about this on a different thread.
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47 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:
But what evidence have you heard or read that has caused you to believe that the virus originated in a lab when the scientific analysis states it has wild zoonotic origins. What has convinced you to believe otherwise?
Wuhan has the only two virology labs in China. They study animals in the labs, including bats. Too much of a coincidence. At this point I'd have to see something pretty convincing otherwise.
But what evidence have you heard or read that has caused you to believe that the virus originated in a lab when the scientific analysis states it has wild zoonotic origins. What has convinced you to believe otherwise?
"Furthermore, 14 of the first 41 cases had no contact with the seafood market13. In another report, five of the first seven cases of COVID-19 had no link to the seafood market14. Thus, it seems very likely that the virus was amplified in the market, but the market might not have been the site of origin nor the only source of the outbreak. A recent phylo-epidemiological study has suggested that the virus was circulating but unrecognised in November, and was imported to the seafood market from elsewhere, where it subsequently was amplified15."
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Yes, but do they have a right to spread dangerous disinformation that could sway the less erudite among us to put their children at risk?
And if you think they do where exactly do we draw the line? Hate speech? Genocide? What is the subject that would make you say "well now you've gone too far"?